B747forever
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Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:14 pm

Hi.

I wonder now when BA will move in to T5, if they will be better in baggage handling. They should be better because they just have one terminal and they will be the only carrier.

I think they should be better now. If not I dont know what is wrong with BA and their way to handle baggage.
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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:18 pm

Quoting B747forever (Thread starter):
They should be better because they just have one terminal and they will be the only carrier.

Not exacly true....they'll have a small operation in T3 as well. So i guess T5 won't solve EVERYTHING! Lol.
 
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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:20 pm

BA's main problem is they are trying to move over twice the luggage through the current system as it was designed for. Once they get through teething at T5, they should have no problem.

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 1):
.they'll have a small operation in T3 as well.

 rotfl  But what 'load factor' will the baggage system/rooms be running at? I doubt T3 will be moving as much luggage.

Now the countdown for the next LHR terminal prior to the olympics!  bigthumbsup 

If only they would/could build the 3rd runway.

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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:22 pm

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 1):
they'll have a small operation in T3 as well

That is true, but it will be just a few BA flights from T3.
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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:33 pm

Well it can't be worse, can it ?  optimist 
 
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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:04 pm

Quoting B747forever (Thread starter):
not I dont know what is wrong with BA and their way to handle baggage.

Repeat after me: it's not just BA that suffered. Lots of T4 airlines had problems, but only BA is newsworthy. And is it BA's problem? Surely it's the BAA's problem!
 
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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:09 pm

Quoting David_itl (Reply 5):
Surely it's the BAA's problem!

Okey, but will BAA handle BAs baggage better in T5??
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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:07 pm

Quoting B747forever (Reply 6):
Okey, but will BAA handle BAs baggage better in T5??

Last year LHR handled just under 68 million passengers and their baggage. The facilities those passengers used were designed to handle 50 million passengers and their baggage. On top of this came the security issue with the British government reducing the size and number of allowable carry-on bags. This, of course, resulted in a significant increase in the number of checked items.and further over loaded the already creaking baggage handling systems.

The situation at T4, where the majority of BA's long haul flights are based, was particularly dire. The demands being placed on the baggage conveyor belts frequently ran at over two times their design capacity. This resulted in frequent baggage conveyor breakdowns. For example in December last year on three consecutive days flights were restricted by ATC because of fog. On 20 December ATC allowed 942 air traffic movements with 932 on 21 December and just 1,006 on 22 December compared to an average over the whole year of 1,306 movements per day. This caused a high level of chaos. During this period one of the two baggage handling systems in T4 broke down. So a huge backlog of "lost" baggage built up very quickly.

In March 2008 BA will start to move most (but not all) of its LHR operations to T5. This terminal has a design capacity of 30 million passengers and their luggage. In a full year BA carries just over 30 million passengers on all flights including those not operating into or out of LHR. As BA will not be moving all its flights to T5 the actual number of passengers and their baggage that will transit the terminal will be significantly less than 30 million. So the BA situation will be that instead of using a BAA baggage handling system operating at twice design capacity it will be using a BAA baggage handling system operating at significantly less than design capacity.

Of course the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. But the facts suggest that it is not unreasonable to forecast that from next March onwards the number of BA passenger bags "lost" should go into rapid decline. Indeed some might predict that since BA will be operating out of the world's most modern major air terminal that is already undergoing baggage handling trials, BA's baggage handling performance will, in 2009, be second to none.
 
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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:16 pm

I think BA will put lots of resources into supporting all the new systems too so I would hope there would be a significant improvement. Little Willie has been on TV too many times promising this, for them to not significantly improve would be a PR disaster for the airline and him personally.

Its a big airport handling lots of bags so it will never be perfect, but im sure performance will be comparable with other majors once its been broken in. Any initial breakdowns will of course be greatly publicised if they happen (thats just the british way) but im sure 5 or 6 months in it will all be Tickety-Boo
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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:58 pm

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 9):
I'm still being told that my 2 bags are in LHR, and the connection from LAX to MAD is within T1.

Yeah, but it is other carriers that use T1. In T5 it will only be BA flights.
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RE: Will BA Be Better In Baggage Handling?

Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:57 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 7):
BA will be operating out of the world's most modern major air terminal

Can you back up this statement? From what's shown over the internet I doubt it is larger or more modern than MAD T4/T4S.

Quoting B747forever (Thread starter):
They should be better because they just have one terminal and they will be the only carrier.

Lost my connection LAX-LHR-MAD-VLC on Saturday afternoon, was rebooked on a flight 3 hours later, and at this hour (2000 CET on Sunday) I'm still being told that my 2 bags are in LHR, and the connection from LAX to MAD is within T1.
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