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IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:43 pm

Breaking news from UIO, an IB A340-600 skids off the RWY, it seems that it has damaged the ILS suggesting that the takeoff was one off RWY17. Registration is confirmed EC-JOH according to ACARS. Flight was IB6463 UIO-GYE. News was taken from this Ecuatorian newspaper, Ecuadorinmediato.com:

http://www.ecuadorinmediato.com/noticias/64508

Quoting Ecuadorinmediatio.com:
Según últimos reportes, un avión de Iberia sufrió un incidente al salir de la pista del aeropuerto, sin estrellamiento. Al momento se evacuan a los pasajeros por parte de los organismos de socorro: Defensa Civil, personal de paramédicos de Quiport, Cruz Roja y Bomberos.


Según explicó Pilar Sánchez del Cuerpo de Bomberos de Quito, el percance no tuvo heridos graves, y tampoco se produjo estrellamiento.

Se cree que el mal despegue se habría producido por fallas en dos llantas.

Translation:

According to the latest reports, an Iberia plane suffered an incident while skidding off the runway at Quito airport, not a crash. In this moment they are evacuating the passengers with the help of the rescue teams, Quiport paramedics, Red Cross and the Firefighters.

According to Pilar Sanchez from the Quito Firefighting team, the incident had no serious injuries on the people onboard and it was not a crash.

It is believed that the bad takeoff was produced by a failure in two wheels.

Hope this is true and no one is hurt.

Regards,
Tomas.

[Edited 2007-11-09 14:51:53]
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:45 pm

Is there a link to CNN or FoxNews, both are usually pretty quick to jump on these types of incidents. Thank God not any serious injuries. Any airplane damage?
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:27 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 1):
Any airplane damage?

First off, confirmed now as the airport is estimated closed through at least 0300z. Per an eyewitness, one engine resting on the ground and cracks seen near the wing. So yes, some airplane damage, though being dark at the moment, may be a while before anything is seen on news sites.

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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:34 pm

Seem like it happened 17:15 local time, Quito airport seem to be temporary closed,
http://www.lahora.com.ec/frontEnd/main.php?idSeccion=641033
About 1 hour and 20 minutes ago.

[Edited 2007-11-09 15:40:03]
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:48 pm

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 2):
First off, confirmed now as the airport is estimated closed through at least 0300z. Per an eyewitness, one engine resting on the ground and cracks seen near the wing. So yes, some airplane damage, though being dark at the moment, may be a while before anything is seen on news sites.

Just in from the same newspaper:

Quoting Ecuadorinmediato.com:
Según pudo confirmar ecuadorinmediato.com, la nave prácticamente está intacta, con excepción del tren de aterrizaje que está prácticamente enterrada, mientras que una parte de la punta de la nariz del avión se halla fuera de la pista.

Translation: Ecuadorinmediato confirmed that the airple is pratically intact with the exception of the main gear which is is practically burried, while one part of the airplane's nose is outside of the RWY.

Will be waiting for more info... UIO closed until further notice, I wonder where Airportmanager is now...

Tomas.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:48 pm

Good that nobody got hurt. This would be considered a accident/incindent not a crash, right.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:54 pm

Bad week for the A340-600 as a SAA A346 went oof the runway last week at Cape Town.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:02 am

Quoting Haan (Reply 6):
Bad week for the A340-600 as a SAA A346 went oof the runway last week at Cape Town.

And Iberia's A340-600 EC-JFX made a hard landing at Quito on Aug 31, 2007, exploding some tires.
 
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Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:03 am

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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:01 am

According to this thread from A.netter Airportmanager, the aircraft is severely damaged.

Thank God no one was hurt, but seems like the jet was hit badly and it will take several hours until its completely removed and the airport.

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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:13 am

Thanks god nothing happened, although UIO is an accident waiting to happen.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:15 am

Quoting Tomascubero (Thread starter):
Flight was IB6463 UIO-GYE.

Per the other thread which I don't see anywhere (deleted due to duplication?), it was the inbound MAD-UIO IB6463 which is what made a bit more sense given the time of the incident. Numerous flights are delayed or have diverted (Southern Air has a B747F sitting in MIA for instance).

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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:05 am

Quoting 797 (Reply 9):
According to this thread from A.netter Airportmanager, the aircraft is severely damaged.

Could this be the second A340 to be written off?
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:08 am

Here is a better link, with picture:

http://www.eluniverso.com/

(It is now on front page)
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:08 am

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 11):
it was the inbound MAD-UIO IB6463 which is what made a bit more sense given the time of the incident.

Yes, you are right, the first information indicated that it was an aborted takeoff, as well I took is as a fact since Flightstats.com had the MAD-UIO flight as landed, 15 minutes ago, when I checked the flight. But if you read below, it was actually landing.

Update: Now the same newspaper is confirming that the aircraft is badly damaged:

Quoting Ecuadorinmediato:
Según testigos oculares consultados por Ecuadorinmediato.com, una de las turbinas del ala izquierda de la aeronave se incendió tras impactar con el terreno fangoso del áerea de seguridad de la cabecera del aeropuerto, sin embargo, la rápida acción del Cuerpo de Bomberos permitió sofocar en menos de quince segundos el percance.

Translation:

According to witnesses consulted by Ecuadorinmediato, one of the left turbines caught fire while impacting the safety zone of the RWY threshold, the quick action of the Firefighting Team controlled the fire in less than 15 seconds.

It also points that is aircraft was landing:

Quoting Ecuadorinmediato:
Se cree que el forzoso arribo se habría producido por fallas en el tren de aterrizaje, debido a la explosión de dos de sus llantas. Cabe señalar, además, que las condiciones metereológicas en Quito eran dificultosas para el transporte aéreo; en el momento del suceso llovía pertinazmente y se presentaban altos niveles de nubosidad.

Translation:

It is believed that the hard landing was caused by problems in the landing gear due to the explosion of two of its tires. It is also important to point out that at the time of the incident, the weather conditions were difficult for the airplanes and it was raining constantly with high levels of clouds at the time.

A special METAR of 2209z (17:09 local time, incident at around 17:15) was:

SEQU 092209Z 17004KT 3000S 4000N RA VCFG FEW005 BKN023 OVC100 12/11 Q1024 BECMG AT2230 4000

Reduced visibility, constant rain, fog in the vicinity and few clouds at 500ft indicate it was not the best weather.

It also suggests that this plane crossed over the highway and is probably resting over it:

Quoting Ecuadorinmediato:
El avión, un Airbus 340-600, se deslizó por la pista aérea, hacia la Avenida del Maestro y Gualaquiza (al norte de la capital), en el mismo sitio en que hace varios años un avión de Cubana de Aviación sufrió un percance parecido.

Translation:

The airplane, an Airbus A340-600, skidded off the runway, towards the "Avenida (Avenue) del Maestro" and Gualaquiza, the same site where a Cubana airplane some years ago had a similar incident.

Regards,
Tomas.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:22 am

Are there any safety issues with the runway in Quito? It seems like a difficult approach. Good news, that no one was hurt. What kind of damage is there to the aircraft if any?
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:27 am

"Major damage" to the airframe, according to Quito's airport director.

I saw a picture of the plane. It appears outside the runway, resting on its left wing. R2 slide deployed, so I assume an emergency evac took place. Major scare for the passengers, if nothing.
 
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Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:31 am

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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:35 am

Ouch. From those pictures, it looks like there may be some damage to the wing, from pylons being ripped off and that those engines will definitely need to be replaced. I'd expect damage to the left main gear as well. As long as there isn't any major hull/wing damage, it looks fixable from where I'm sitting.

Hasn't the IB A346s had a lot of issues with their brakes in the last three some-odd years?

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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:36 am

Quoting United787 (Reply 12):
Could this be the second A340 to be written off?

Would be the 5th A340 to be written off, but second one due to a landing incident.

Two Air Lanka A340s destroyed by attacks
One Air France at CDG during a "dispute" (F-GNIA)
One Air France at YYZ, in a landing incident in 2006

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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:40 am

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 19):
Would be the 5th A340 to be written off, but second one due to a landing incident.

But it would be the first A340NG (e.g. A340-500 and/or A340-600).
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:50 am

Quoting United787 (Reply 12):
Could this be the second A340 to be written off?

The aircraft is still relatively new, so it's not necessarily a write-off. Judging from the pictures, maybe a new landing gear, new engine(s) and a new number 2 engine pylon (maybe also a new engine pylon for the number 1), unless something pierced through the fuselage. That's just my casual observation.

I'm guessing that the aircraft will likely be repaired.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:53 am

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 15):
Are there any safety issues with the runway in Quito? It seems like a difficult approach. Good news, that no one was hurt. What kind of damage is there to the aircraft if any?

At something like 9200 ASL, pretty much any operations have to be considered difficult - thinking about it. breathing would be difficult for probably 75% of people not from there! Add any sort of weather (rainy, hot, or anything else), and if you can run off the end of any runway, that'll be one.
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:00 am

Good no one was hurt.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 21):

Interesting, but shall we assume that all of the work would be done in Quito?, it would be somewhat expensive compared to being done in MAD or any other station that usually would do heavy MX on a A346.
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:17 am

Is anybody else wondering why in some of the pictures, especially the one shot from the tail angle, the electrical system is still powered? The white tail nav light as well as the left logo lights are both illuminated. Without exception, the checklists for every airliner I have ever flown require electrical power to be shut off in this sort of situation.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:18 am

this could have turned out to be very ugly . those people were very lucky . good thing there was no embankment or ditch at the end of that runway.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:45 am

Quoting Etops1 (Reply 25):
this could have turned out to be very ugly . those people were very lucky . good thing there was no embankment or ditch at the end of that runway.

Well, there was; they were just lucky enough to stop well before it.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:02 am

Quoting B752fanatic (Reply 23):
Interesting, but shall we assume that all of the work would be done in Quito?, it would be somewhat expensive compared to being done in MAD or any other station that usually would do heavy MX on a A346.

Yes, but you got to remember that when the KZ 767 that was on lease to Skyservice landed hard and got those nasty fuselage wrinkles in PUJ, people from Boeing came down there and repaired the aircraft on site.

But you do got a point: damage wise, it may not seem like a writeoff, but if the repairs itself cost more than the aircraft is worth at this point, then it will be more economical to scrap the aircraft and sell the still functional parts as spares. Still, I doubt it will be written off.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:04 am

Quoting Tomascubero (Reply 14):
SEQU 092209Z 17004KT 3000S 4000N RA VCFG FEW005 BKN023 OVC100 12/11 Q1024 BECMG AT2230 4000

UIO always use rwy 35 for landings and takeoffs, the APP for rwy 17 is extremely challenging for both landings(specially) and deps, so I doubt they were using rwy 17 since winds were calm (less than 5kts its known as calm winds), my guess is they were coming way too high or too fast or both.

P.S: UIO runway is 10.300ft at 9200AG thats why they are unable to fly UIO-MAD.........just as a reference Montevideo Carrasco Int'l (SUMU) has a 10.500rwy at 50ft.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:07 am

Airportmanager, a friend of mine, told me the aircraft hase several fuselage and wing cracks and that engines 1, 2, and 3 are useless, only 4 is or could be good. Engine two and its pylon are severed as we cans ee from the photos, the whole landing gear is done for and the under part of the fuselage might have suffered some damage too after it went off the RWY.

Quito is closed until further notice till Monday and will probably extend some more time due to the size and location of this massive plane.

Regards,
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:26 am

Quito actual runway is much to short considering the altitude of the city ( 2800 meters )
The new airport will have a 4200 meter runway.
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:27 am

Quoting BY188B (Reply 17):
Very good pictures on this link;

http://www.elperiodico.cat/info/gale...a=969

From the front shot picture I would say that there was be damage to both engines since they are both looking not straight forward so I guess there must a more damage. If both engines look that bad I think there could be damage to the wing as well.

At the moment I believe it is way to early to speculate whether it is write-off or not.  Smile

Good that nobody was hurt!
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:38 am

wow thank God everyone's ok - I looked at UIO on Google Earth and the end of the runway (it landed on 17, right?) is 177 yards away from from a major roadway/intersection; I'm assuming it's the aforementioned Avenida del Maestro. This was a close one.
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:14 am

Quoting Tomascubero (Reply 29):
Quito is closed until further notice till Monday and will probably extend some more time due to the size and location of this massive plane.

Where will all the traffic be diverted? I doubt GYE could take all of it, or am I wrong?

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 30):
Quito actual runway is much to short considering the altitude of the city ( 2800 meters )
The new airport will have a 4200 meter runway.

Even with a 4200 metre runway, a limiting factor will be max tyre speed. Could even the best highspeed tyre hold a full length takeoff from 9200 ft altitude? If not, then all the new runway will do is reduce restrictions a bit more, but that's it.

Think of LPB as well. Even though it was a 13000+ ft runway, due to its altitude of 13325 ft, it's still highly tyre speed restricted, which translates into heavy weight restrictions.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:45 am

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 19):
One Air France at YYZ, in a landing incident in 2006

Forgive me, but by what stretch of the imagination was that a "landing incident?" I don't think an aircraft has to fly head first into the everglades before it can be qualified as a crash.

To me a landing incident is a blown out tire or an engine failure and the A/C gets back to the gate/air bridge under it's own power.
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:47 am

TV shows one of the main gears collapsed when if skid off the runway. Especulations are that the airport may be closed for several days.

Many thins have happend lately in UIO.

The media reports 5 injured out of 333 passengers. Including one flight attendant.

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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:10 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 27):
But you do got a point: damage wise, it may not seem like a writeoff, but if the repairs itself cost more than the aircraft is worth at this point, then it will be more economical to scrap the aircraft and sell the still functional parts as spares. Still, I doubt it will be written off.

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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:25 am

Ok i just got back from the airport. I was there in the flight school during this happened. It was raining and I heard a loud BOOM but nothing that caught my atention. hen my dad called me and well, guess what he told me that an airplane had skidd off the RWY! I called my cotnacts and no one had info! AA pilot called me and they said a A346 of Iberia EC-JOH skid off during landing. A girl was linading as I was told, last comunications heard were a girl asking winds.

I grabbed my car and took a very fast route with my friends and got there, the plane was in the end of the RWY in the grass area tilted in the slope, with engines in the ground broken off, wing kind of broken, emergency ramps oipened, and it was amazing to see this plane like this. I grabbed some amazing pics!

I was told that the plane will be removed in 48 hours!! It is impossible to remove it as a landing gear tore off, the center one i beleive and all the rest exploded, the front gear colpased into the ground. Engines 1 2 and 3 are torn off into the ground still on the wing but torn off. Ill psot pics alter as I took many! Weather did not cooeprate!

Sorry that im a bit hectic!!

Ahh also, the plane went over the protected area over two tunnels! the plane made a hole over the tunnel!! And ripped out a landing gear!
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:45 am

Quoting BAKJet (Reply 5):
Good that nobody got hurt. This would be considered a accident/incindent not a crash, right.

to me this is more than a incident other than no one was hurt, this is terrible, I still can tbelieve Ive seen an aircraft like this! Just centimieters before being into houses and cars!

Quoting Breiz (Reply 7):

And Iberia's A340-600 EC-JFX made a hard landing at Quito on Aug 31, 2007, exploding some tires.

This is not the same airplane. This is EC-JOH, but still, Iberias second incident in less than 2 months! Amazing!!

Quoting 797 (Reply 9):
According to this thread from A.netter Airportmanager, the aircraft is severely damaged.

Thank God no one was hurt, but seems like the jet was hit badly and it will take several hours until its completely removed and the airport.

Cheers

I second my last post which was errased. The plane is useless, I mean, I have never seen a plane with such damage!!! The wings and engines are broken off, after some pictures taken from someone from the inside (Which ill try to post later) the inner part of the fuse whioch grabs the wings are cracked up till the wing which means a total tosrsion of the fudesalgge!!!

Quoting Tomascubero (Reply 14):
Yes, you are right, the first information indicated that it was an aborted takeoff

LANDING, not a takeoff.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 16):
"Major damage" to the airframe, according to Quito's airport director.

YEP! That is true, the airframe is bent! You could see it at plain sight from the streeets, the plane is bent and the engiens are ripped off. This is a terrible sight. Ill try to take day pic tomorrow at plain sun light.

Quoting PyroGX41487 (Reply 18):
Ouch. From those pictures, it looks like there may be some damage to the wing, from pylons being ripped off and that those engines will definitely need to be replaced. I'd expect damage to the left main gear as well. As long as there isn't any major hull/wing damage, it looks fixable from where I'm sitting.

Hasn't the IB A346s had a lot of issues with their brakes in the last three some-odd years?

Pyro

I have pics showing rupture of the pylons and the wings hook up with the engines!! Ive uploaded a few pics, but hopefully will be accepted tomorrow, or so. TERRIBLE stress on the wing and the fuse! Engines are broken off. I believe this is a total loss of the a/c.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 21):
The aircraft is still relatively new, so it's not necessarily a write-off. Judging from the pictures, maybe a new landing gear, new engine(s) and a new number 2 engine pylon (maybe also a new engine pylon for the number 1), unless something pierced through the fuselage. That's just my casual observation.

As i said before there are pics from a friend of mine from the guy who was right near the plane. Closeups of the plane near the wing with broken parts. Ill ask for his pics tomorrow. Fusse has cracks and all near the wing attatch area. Its horrible. Also broken off landing gears and the fuse crashed against some ILS equiptment menaning it has sever damage.

Quoting Etops1 (Reply 25):
this could have turned out to be very ugly . those people were very lucky . good thing there was no embankment or ditch at the end of that runway.

Well, your very right. This is very lucky. Just meters off the citch near the RRWY meaning this oculd of ended in a tragedy!!! I mean, if there wouldnt of been the tunnel area built after Cubana accident, this would of been a tragedy with lots of deaths!!! Thank god that no one was hurt!

Quoting Tomascubero (Reply 29):
Quito is closed until further notice till Monday and will probably extend some more time due to the size and location of this massive plane.



Quoting Airplane (Reply 35):
TV shows one of the main gears collapsed when if skid off the runway. Especulations are that the airport may be closed for several days.

True. Thay say airport will be clsoed for more than 24 hours and lots of work. There is no way a truck can pull out this airplane out of this ditch. I tried to manage a helicopter ride to getrt an aerial shot but the denied the possibility because airport security is stopping the helicopters from overflying. Never the less, this airplane is stranded in this position, and the plane in my opinion, wont be moved until its broken up!!! Certainly amazing!

ill keep you posted according to what I see
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:52 am

Thanks Tomascubero & Airportmanager for the reports. Sorry the news is bad.

A good representation of a challenged A340 landing at Quito is on flightlevel350.com.

You'll see towards the end of the roll-out, the aircraft skids in a pool of water on the runway... add in a couple of blown tires... There are a couple of other vids that show a/c overshooting the base leg turn for 35.

The photos look nasty... with the #1 engine snapped off like that it reminds me of a broken limb. Is there even room at Quito to do the major surgery on an A346 and then would there be enough confidence in the aircraft to test-fly it out over thousands of people in the city????

Good to know everybody got out OK.

Keep us posted, Thomascubero and Airportmanager- you're our eyes....
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:19 am

Anymore pics ???

R

Ooops, sorry Manager, your post wasn't there when I posted that. Cool pics!

[Edited 2007-11-10 00:21:37]
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:22 am

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 37):
A girl was linading as I was told, last comunications heard were a girl asking winds.

What is it about A346's and female pilots. the SA incident at CPT last week was also a female pilot? duck 
 
ZuluTime
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:26 am

Why were so few emergency exits opened? I can understand that the angle of the forward chutes may have made it difficult but am surprised that it looks like only one exit on each side was used for the evacuation with 333 passengers aboard.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:05 am

Quoting Etops1 (Reply 25):
this could have turned out to be very ugly . those people were very lucky . good thing there was no embankment or ditch at the end of that runway.

It sure seems like the wet ground, almost muddy, is an important factor here. If the ground were hard packed, its likely that the plane would have gone into the ditch. Thank God everyone is OK.

Quoting Airplane (Reply 35):
TV shows one of the main gears collapsed when if skid off the runway. Especulations are that the airport may be closed for several days.

Its sure going to be a bugger moving such a large machine with damaged landing gear out of its muddy hole.

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 37):
I grabbed some amazing pics!



Quoting Czbbflier (Reply 39):
Thanks Tomascubero & Airportmanager for the reports

Excellent work. Its great to know that we have "agents" all over the world  Smile

Perhaps this give some skinny on the recent announcement about new heavies for Iberia  scratchchin 

iwok
 
loalq
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:33 am

Ooops!
Somebody just lost his job!

Great pics AirportManager, thanks a lot!
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:39 am

Airportmanager, great pics. It's a shame A.net takes so long to accept them.

I find it strange that there is still no info. on the incident from the IBERIA website. Maybe they are waiting for something official. Go figure.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:49 am

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 37):
last comunications heard were a girl asking winds.

Airportmanager, I have to join the praise for your ever good reporting and photography.

On the question of a female asking for winds, I thought that the pilot managing communications is usually not the one doing the flying. Or how is the cockpit workload normally split, during landing in particular?
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:50 am

What happens to a plane this damaged? Will the need a crane to pull it (literally) out of the mud? Would IB do minimal repairs there in Quito and fly back to MAD for (or other base) for a major re-tooling? Or, as others have suggested, cut it up and ship the pieces back?

Thanks to all who are following this story!

As so many others have said, Thank God no one was hurt!! Things can be replaced....people can't.
Can I have a mojito on this flight?
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:01 am

Quoting Davescj (Reply 49):
Would IB do minimal repairs

From what Airportmanger has described in his reports, plus what can be seen on the pictures, I don't believe "minimal repairs" will get that bird back in the air. I think UIO has a huge WO in their hands that they'll probably have to scrap pretty soon to get the airport back on line.
 
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RE: IB A340-600 Skids Off The RWY At Quito/UIO

Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:10 am

First of all, Stefano, thank you so much for the news coverage!

Do you have any info about what happens during the time UIO is closed? To me it looks like this might take some time, and they can definitely not resume operations with this hull right at the end of the runway.

Isn't Latacunga (SELT / LTX) usually used in cases like this?

Also, the way I remember UIO from when I worked there, there's not even space to do the repairs, right? The 346 even had trouble parking at the gate during normal operations, it basically blocked the whole apron. How and where would they put this for a month to do the repairs (if possible at all)? At the military area?

There are a couple of FH27 wrecks at the northern end of the runway, maybe they should just dump this frame right next to it.

By the way, when I first heard the news, I thought to myself: Not again!
There've been several similar incidents at UIO, at a varying rate of deadliness.

Soren

[Edited 2007-11-10 02:14:20]

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