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South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:14 pm

A directive by South African Civil Aviation Authority has grounded all Boeing 737-200 in the country, until engine mountings are inspected on each and every aircraft of the type.

The grounding follows the CE incident in CPT where an engine separated from the wing on departure.

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_A...a/News/0,,2-7-1442_2218730,00.html
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:22 pm

So, what has Nationwide still got in its domestic fleet? 727s?
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:24 pm

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 1):
So, what has Nationwide still got in its domestic fleet? 727s?

A few left... and two 737-500s
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:26 pm

SAA still have 732s?
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:33 pm

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 3):
SAA still have 732s?

AFAIK only cargo birds
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:56 pm

Not sure when the grounding will come into effect, I saw 732s going out of JNB all day, as well as MDs and DC-9s.

Here's the CAA directive:

http://www.caa.co.za/Emegerncy_AD.pdf
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:36 am

Quoting Andz (Reply 5):
Not sure when the grounding will come into effect, I saw 732s going out of JNB all day, as well as MDs and DC-9s.

Here's the CAA directive:

http://www.caa.co.za/Emegerncy_AD.pdf

Seems MD's and DC-9's are no longer affected?
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:39 am

So, is this just for RSA-registered 732's, or all 732's currently sitting inside the borders?
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:48 am

Quoting SW733 (Reply 7):
So, is this just for RSA-registered 732's, or all 732's currently sitting inside the borders?

AD's normally only apply to airplanes under the registry of the body issuing the AD.

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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:31 am

How is Nationwide being affected by this? Obviously a lot of problems right?
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:22 am

Yesterday I saw Nationwide a/c operating as normal at JNB.
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:36 am

Going by the link provided by Andz it would seem that anything powered by JT8D engines will be subject to the AD, but the PDF in the link doesn't say when it will take effect, its more of a warning that there will be an AD soon. Possibly giving the operators enough time to inspect enough of their fleets ahead of time to avoid transportation meltdown?
As an aside, I thought that I read earlier on in this incident that someone said the engine fell off after the TR deployed while at a high thrust setting and that is what may have caused the separation? If this is a possible cause I would hope that the AD will be expanded to includeall control systems to the engine and TRs as well as just the mounting bolts.
But perhaps my memory is failing me as regards the TR deployment?

[Edited 2007-11-11 03:40:57]
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:13 pm

After reading the AD provided, the actual AD is applicable only to JT8D powered 732 series A/C. At the top is simply a letter from the South African CAA warning 727 and DC9 operators that there WILL be an AD applicable to thier JT8 powered A/C.

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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:16 pm

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 8):
AD's normally only apply to airplanes under the registry of the body issuing the AD.

That's what I figured, but just wanted to make sure. I had visions of my precious Air Namibia being hurt  Wink

Hope this all gets sorted out soon!
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:38 pm

Seems a drastic step. those 732s are sturdy and important in South African transport. Hope this gets sorted and soon as I think the 732 can carry on providing reliable operation for a long time. Aloha shares this opinion!!!
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:22 pm

Nothing on the website indictaing that they will be changing business in anyway over the next few days.
Must say, that they are a great airline.
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:40 pm

I'm booked to fly PLZ-CPT with Nationwide next month and it's normally a 732, although I was hoping that they would sub it for the 727 !!.

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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:54 am

Looks like there were effects after all... Various flights were delayed at the weekend, some by several hours, after a flying ban on 30 Boeing 737 jets across South Africa.

But, it looks as though things will improve soon... http://www.news24.com/News24/South_A...a/News/0,,2-7-1442_2219464,00.html
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:54 pm

Quoting A390 (Reply 10):
Yesterday I saw Nationwide a/c operating as normal at JNB.

According to media reports, initial visual inspections to all 732's had to be done to allow a/c's to fly over the weekend. Full inspection reports had to be completed and submitted to CAA by toady (Monday) failing which a/c's will be grounded.
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:05 pm

Nationwide have had 7 frames cleared to operate and Comair 4 after being inspected. They are free to fly those frames anytime now.
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:37 pm

Does South Africa require hushkits on these antiques? With oil hitting $100.00 bucks a barrell how much longer can they carry on?
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:04 pm

Quoting ORDagent (Reply 20):
Does South Africa require hushkits on these antiques?

No.
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:33 am

I have a DVD about Nationwide that I think was produced in 2003 and in it they say their 737-200 fleet are stage 2 compliant and that they figured by 2007 they would all be stage 3 compliant. Whether that happened I have no idea and I would assume that they had stage 2 compliance only because most other places in the world required it prior to them aquiring the aircraft.
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:47 pm

Here are the photos of the plane and engine after the incident.

Big version: Width: 855 Height: 642 File size: 107kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Engine

Big version: Width: 778 Height: 583 File size: 65kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Leading Edge

Big version: Width: 800 Height: 491 File size: 87kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Engine Mount

Big version: Width: 601 Height: 800 File size: 102kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Wing Front

Big version: Width: 583 Height: 778 File size: 66kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - Wing

Big version: Width: 778 Height: 583 File size: 87kb
Nationwide 732 Engine Loss - # 2 donkey is gone
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:16 pm

I flew on SAA 732, great bird.
JNB is 732 paradise. But except CE , there is no other SA carrier flying them.
 
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RE: South Africa Grounds All 732's

Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:28 pm



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 24):
But except CE , there is no other SA carrier flying them

Pardon me, i forgot that BA/Comair and Kulula also flies 732.