kaitak744
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Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:49 pm

Delta is scheduled to start the following long-haul routes next year.

ATL-Lagos
JFK-TLV
ATL-LHR
JFK-LHR (2x)
ATL-PVG (777-200LR)
JFK-Dakar-Nairobi
JFK-Paris Orly
SLC-CDG
ATL-ARN
JFK-Dakar-CPT
JFK-Cairo
JFK-Malaga
JFK-Amman

So far, all of those routes are with the 767-300ER (except for PVG).

Where are they getting all those extra aircraft from?


777 utilization:

777-200ER
ATL-NRT
ATL-TLV
ATL-DXB (3x weekly)
ATL-ICN (4x weekly)
(one more route?)

777-200LR
ATL-JFK-BOM
ATL-PVG
ATL-JNB nonstop (?)
(one more route?)
 
quickmover
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:51 pm

I believe they took at least 10 or so former TWA 757-200s from American.
 
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:52 pm

I think more 764ER's are coming off the domestic flights, being fitted with BizElite and taking over 763ER routes thus allowing more/new 763ER routes. Also some 763ER routes outta JFK are being switched to 757's freeing up even more 763ER's.
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Alitalia744
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:03 pm

next vs. this year:

+ 6 767-400ERs transferred to int'l
+15 757-200etops from AA

That will allow upgauge of certain routes and downgauge of others to allow for the expansion.
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:07 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
JFK-Malaga

Isn't this route using a 757 Etop with winglet (TW/AA) birds
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:06 pm

Quoting Belizexp (Reply 4):
Isn't this route using a 757 Etop with winglet (TW/AA) birds

Yes, as does JFK-ORY. Aren't they adding JFK-LYS with a 757 as well?
 
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:48 pm

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 5):
Aren't they adding JFK-LYS with a 757 as well?

Correct.

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
JFK-Dakar-Nairobi
JFK-Dakar-CPT

Not two seperate flights. The flight will go JFK-DKR daily, and then fly to CPT and NBO on alternating days of the week.
 
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:31 pm

Whats the possibility of DL picking up some used 767s when the 787s start coming off the line? What about getting CO's 767-400s once they start taking delivery of their 787s? Also, will the 787s replace some 777s that DL could pickup?
 
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:57 pm

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 5):
Aren't they adding JFK-LYS with a 757 as well?

source?

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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:02 pm

Quoting DALelite (Reply 8):
source?

DALelite

Check Delta.com or airfrance.com it was announced about a month ago.

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
Whats the possibility of DL picking up some used 767s when the 787s start coming off the line? What about getting CO's 767-400s once they start taking delivery of their 787s? Also, will the 787s replace some 777s that DL could pickup?

Unlikely though you never know. CO have never spoken about getting rid of their 764s when the 787 comes online. They have however not decided what to do with the 762s, though I believe they will keep both.
 
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:38 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Thread starter):
ATL-PVG (777-200LR)

has this been confirmed with this EQP?

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
What about getting CO's 767-400s once they start taking delivery of their 787s?

highly unlikely, CO needs all the capacity they can get, and their 787s will suppliment their expansion initially... not replace fleet.
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:46 pm

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
Whats the possibility of DL picking up some used 767s when the 787s start coming off the line?

Definitely a possibility, but that would depend on a multitude of factors, e.g. number of cycles, overall age, engines, etc.

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
What about getting CO's 767-400s once they start taking delivery of their 787s?

No chance, CO needs ever single one of their 764s far beyond the first 787 deliveries, and by the time they could dump them, DL will no doubt be in the 787 market as well and not need the 764s.

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 7):
Also, will the 787s replace some 777s that DL could pickup?

Could happen, but as with the 767s, depending on a multitude of factors. Though as far as CO goes, I can't see them giving up their 777s either.

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 10):
has this been confirmed with this EQP?

According to the schedules that route is still supposed to get the 772s freed up by putting the first 2 77Ls on the JFK-BOM route, though who knows, if DL were to see a huge demand that would make it more profitable to use the 77L fully loaded to PVG and keep the 772s on JFK-BOM with restrictions, changes could still happen.
 
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:01 am

752's have been put on routes such as JFK-BRU/AMS/FRA etc. and 764's have been put on routes such as ATL-CDG/FCO/MXP/VCE/FRA/'LGW/BCN/SCL/GRU, etc. The 763's that used to fly these routes are being used for expansion.

I expect we will see more expansion next year as Delta still has a few more 767-400's to deploy and 772LR's coming online next year.
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Indio66
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:09 am

When do JFK to ORY and LYN start?
 
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:57 pm



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 12):
and 764's have been put on routes such as ATL-CDG/FCO/MXP/VCE/FRA/'LGW/BCN/SCL/GR

The 764 has NEVER been used by DL into VCE, might have happened once due to equipment sub....but not schduled...however the rest are correct.

Also, add ATL-AMS/SNN/DUB/MAN these have been flown with a 764 at one point or another.
 
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RE: Is Delta Getting More 767-300ERs?

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:34 pm



Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 5):
Yes, as does JFK-ORY. Aren't they adding JFK-LYS with a 757 as well?



Quoting Belizexp (Reply 4):
Isn't this route using a 757 Etop with winglet (TW/AA) birds

JFK- Malaga is a 757

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