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Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:12 am

Qantas.com Media Release

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Seats in Qantas' new international Premium Economy cabin went on sale today.

Qantas Executive General Manager, Mr John Borghetti, said seats in the airline's new Premium Economy cabin would be available on select B747-400 services from:
- Sydney to London via Singapore and Bangkok from 1 April 2008;
- Sydney to Johannesburg from 1 April 2008;
- Melbourne to London via Singapore and Hong Kong from 16 May 2008; and
- Sydney to Hong Kong from 3 August 2008.

Premium Economy return fares from Sydney (including taxes, levies and charges) will start from:
- Hong Kong $1999
- Johannesburg $4217
- Singapore $2189
- London $4567
- Bangkok $2552

Mr Borghetti said Qantas' Premium Economy seat was designed by renowned Australian designer Marc Newson in association with Recaro, manufacturer of seats for the likes of Aston Martin, Audi and Porsche.

He said the airline's Premium Economy would offer:
- a brand new 19.5 inch wide seat;
- generous seat recline and leg room (up to 40 inch pitch);
- 8.4 inch in-arm touch screen video monitor;
- Neil Perry inspired menu with premium wines;
- ergonomic cushioning and an adjustable headrest; and
- noise cancelling headsets.


"Our service will also include priority check-in, dedicated cabin crew, an additional hand baggage allowance, and priority boarding and disembarkation," Mr Borghetti said

"Qantas will offer 32 Premium Economy seats on its B747-400 aircraft in a two-four-two configuration, and the product will also be available on select B747-400 services to the US from late 2008.

"The Qantas A380's spacious state-of-the-art interiors will include 32 Premium Economy seats in every aircraft in a two-three-two configuration."

Qantas will take delivery of its first A380 in August 2008, with services to commence in the last quarter of 2008.

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Yipee, finally on sale... some fares may be on the expensive side though.

Qantas will now have the best Premium Economy product in the sky!

Cheers  Smile
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:37 am

so on sale that when you visit their website you can't book it...not sure how you can claim they'll now have the best in the sky when its priced closer to Business Class fares to London on carriers like EK, EY & JL.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:39 am

It looks like a better product then what BA and VS offer.
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:39 am

Yep, tried to book, but of course you can't.
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:45 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 2):
It looks like a better product then what BA and VS offer.

its not about the product look but the price for the product...would you knowingly pay say $6000 (peak season) for Y+ when you can get an all inclusive J class fare for less or roughly the same?
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:11 am

Quoting QF175 (Thread starter):
Premium Economy return fares from Sydney (including taxes, levies and charges) will start from:
- Hong Kong $1999
- Johannesburg $4217
- Singapore $2189
- London $4567
- Bangkok $2552

 Wow!
Qutie expensive for Y+ fares. I should also mention that RTW in Y+ with BA/QF is the same price if not cheaper than the London return fare
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:57 am

Everything they get IS Business class except the seat and Amenity Kit.

Cheers
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:23 am



Quoting VHVXB (Reply 5):
Qutie expensive for Y+ fares

Well this is QF.... I can't see any of us should be expecting them to come in twith compeititve prices!

But the pricing seems pretty well alligned to what NZ are charging for their product
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:30 am



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 1):
so on sale that when you visit their website you can't book it



Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 3):
Yep, tried to book, but of course you can't.

Have you actually tried booking AFTER APRIL 08??? PE is not available beofre then and if you search after that date on the routes that have it does come up as an option
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:43 am

Quoting ANstar (Reply 8):
Have you actually tried booking AFTER APRIL 08??? PE is not available beofre then and if you search after that date on the routes that have it does come up as an option

no joke...I think I can read the introduction of the PE and it certainly didn't show any fares available for May 2008.

Quoting Airnewzealand (Reply 6):
Everything they get IS Business class

in other words your paying twice as much for a plate of food 9in of extra space...when for the same price you can get everything in Business Class plus the seat.

[Edited 2007-11-12 19:44:11]
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:48 am



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 9):
in other words your paying twice as much for a plate of food 9in of extra space...when for the same price you can get everything in Business Class plus the seat.

Correct.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:52 am

update...its just been added to the QF system, here are some fare samples.

SYD-LHR-SYD

9 Jul to 28 Jul

$5850 discount
$6673 full flex

6 May to 22 May

$5317 discount
$6673 full flex

SYD-JNB-SYD

11 Jun to 25 Jun

$4974 discount
$5952 full flex

ok, I have two words about QF and their pricing for this product, get stuffed!
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:54 am



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 9):
no joke...I think I can read the introduction of the PE and it certainly didn't show any fares available for May 2008.

suggest you look again... for the dates it says it is available from and destinations....

I can price up flights to SIN, JNB, HKG etc

Obviously PE is not an option for routes out of PER, like PER-LHR or PER-SIN... nor is i on LAX-SYD etc
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:54 am



Quoting QF175 (Thread starter):
- London $4567

I'm with QF077 on this one. Brisbane to London was going on eithad last month for a mere $5000 including tax!!!! (business class of course)
Lets see. Fully lat beds, much bigger PTV, etc etc.... Qantas needs to knock about $1000 off this price to make it attractive in my opinion. Also remember that price folks...that price is FROM... that's not taking seasonality into consideration, which i would be extremely surprised if they charged one flat price all year round. This isn't F class after all.

So its just another $433 bucks of EY fully flat beds. Anybody who can afford to pay for the Qantas premium economy can afford another 8% or so to upgrade to Etihad. the $10K or so for Qantas business class however, is another story all together. I wonder how loyal they think all these frequent flyer addicts really will be after they've been picked up in an S-class mercedes, given a fully flat bed and slept properly all the way to london?

I think the price to Hong Kong might work. We'll see...all comes down to how much Gold status is worth to them.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:10 am



Quoting ANstar (Reply 12):
Obviously PE is not an option for routes out of PER, like PER-LHR or PER-SIN... nor is i on LAX-SYD etc

I'm not stupid & I can read..fact is that the option came online about 15mins ago at QF website for me.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:13 am



Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 13):
the $10K or so for Qantas business class however, is another story all together.

go to a travel agent and you'll get cheaper J class fares than QF Y+ and by a decent margin too.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:23 am

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
SYD-LHR-SYD

9 Jul to 28 Jul

$5850 discount
$6673 full flex

People have bees in the head to pay that. I am waiting for the fares to be released, but MK is $6000 first class.

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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:32 am



Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 16):
but MK is $6000 first class.

LOL... I wouldn;t pay that for MK 1st!

I'd much rather pony up $6k to fly J with Etihad or Thai.

whilst the HKG pricing doesn't look all that bad (but still more than VS) the rest of the pricing is pretty high.... but good luck to them if they can find idiots to pay that much.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:35 am



Quoting ANstar (Reply 17):
I'd much rather pony up $6k to fly J with Etihad or Thai.

Agree. The TG fare was about $6400 from memory. Business to BKK then first to Europe.
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:28 am



Quoting ANstar (Reply 17):
but good luck to them if they can find idiots to pay that much.

Agreed....But they have found these "Idiots" to fill their J/C cabins and Y/C Cabins for the last 4 years.

-Newsflash-...QF is one of the most expensive airlines to fly...you think a new cabin is going to make that any different? Dont think so...they will continue to charge these rediculous fares as they know they can!

Cheers
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:35 am

Anyone paying those prices for THAT product should perhaps have a serious look at their sense of monetary values.
G'day
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:01 am

Given the choice to fly TG, MH, EY in J class for around that much, I know what I would be picking. Crazy
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:14 pm

Heres my comparison:

SYD-LHR via the normal hubs.

QF: $5,224.50
NZ: $4,450.10
VS: $4,680.50
BA: $3,836.50

(All in AUD)

I do wonder if you can book BA premium economy and get on QF flights with their product?? Would save almost 2k if you can do it that way!

Now J class:

Thai, Virgin, Etihad and Malaysian all have J class fares from 5,900 up to 7,900.



For something totally different, SQ offer the Executive Economy on SIN-USA you can get PER-LAX for about 2100.00 cheaper than QF's economy and i suspect 3-4k cheaper than Y+ on QF.

Im going back to the USA in mid 2009 and want to fly a premium class but we will see how QF's pricing is then. No wonder they only have 32 seats.
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:23 pm

Well I've just looked up flying LHR-SYD-LHR and the price is exactly the same as BA are charging for the same dates, £1950.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:09 pm

WOW!! How expensice are those seats!!!

Give me J class on any other carrier!!
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:05 pm



Quoting Trb10 (Reply 23):
Well I've just looked up flying LHR-SYD-LHR and the price is exactly the same as BA are charging for the same dates,

guess how much that is in AUD...$4510.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:10 pm

Nice product but BMI's new PE product is nicer. Basically the old J class seats now are in PE !!

Buy your tickets at Trailfinders or your local ''good'' agent and you will get 30%-40% discount. Fares are due to be released soon ''consol fares''.

I like the product but not at the full rates. The consol rates will be worth it for a LHR-SYD on such a long flight.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:27 pm

Hey,

I will be starting as crew with Qantas very shortly based out of LHR. I will be A380 and B744 trained so hopefully will be working the Y+ cabin! Can't wait!

Regards
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:19 pm

Insanity - though I suspect the cabins will be full on every flight.

I just completed MEL-BKK return on TG for $2250 in J class.

QF will struggle to get my business on overseas routes in future.
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:41 am

just priced QF Y+ on expedia for 17 Jul 2008...

$6700 was the quote including taxes..
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:30 am



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 4):
ts not about the product look but the price for the product...would you knowingly pay say $6000 (peak season) for Y+ when you can get an all inclusive J class fare for less or roughly the same?

I have a feeling that this product is aimed to a specific group of travelers; business travelers that need to be able actually do some work upon arrival and can't book J or F due to company policies even if it would make more sense.
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:19 am



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
I have two words about QF and their pricing for this product, get stuffed!

 bigthumbsup   rotfl 

Quoting QFYMML (Reply 28):
QF will struggle to get my business on overseas routes in future.

They haven't had my business internationally since 1992! After 4 consecutive well below par flights, where the on board staff were surly and rude. And domestically, only when there is no other choice....

Although did relent in 2003 when I had to go to NZ, nothing had changed....it seemed for the old queen working on the return flight, that doing the meal service was just too much stress for 'her'. The way 'she' spoke (or rather grunted) to passengers was terrible, was it because they were interupting the gossip session with "Beryl" on the other side of the trolley?  yes   wink 
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:33 am



Quoting QF175 (Thread starter):
Yipee, finally on sale... some fares may be on the expensive side though.

Qantas will now have the best Premium Economy product in the sky!

Too much (price) and too late (availability). The seats look suspiciously like the early business class seats when they arrived decades ago, and surprise, the prices are about the same.

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
ok, I have two words about QF and their pricing for this product, get stuffed!

Hard to argue with that QF077. What are they doing. To wait so long and to come up with basically the class that they deserted by making J so luxurious is a bit dumb. There is still a market for a real Prem Economy class, but not at that price, well not for me anyway.

When BA introduced theirs ?over a decade ago, it was a much more modest affair, and IIRC cost an extra 300$ each way over cattle class. A bit more seat width but mostly longer pitch. The only negative was that if the seats next to you were unoccupied, the arms did not lift up.
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:43 am



Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 30):
business travelers that need to be able actually do some work upon arrival and can't book J or F due to company policies even if it would make more sense.

well for that price you can go to a travel agent and get J class fares for a fraction of the cost...
 
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:47 am



Quoting ANstar (Reply 7):
But the pricing seems pretty well alligned to what NZ are charging for their product

The thing that i dont like with NZ 's product is that it is the economy seat stretched with some extra recline and a footrest... QF is offering a whole new seat, So I see Qf's product as a few steps above NZ.

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 13):
I wonder how loyal they think all these frequent flyer addicts really will be after they've been picked up in an S-class mercedes, given a fully flat bed and slept properly all the way to london?

I agree with Airnewzealand! I sat next to a business traveler on a AKL-LAX QF 747 flight in business and he told me that he has flown on many other airlines but has settled in with QF because their seat is amazing, the service offered is great and the FA's were professional; they are "real people with personality, not robots." Although mainly because if your based in Aussie or NZ QF offers many great destinations. Were as if you were to fly with Etihad you would be limited on your destinations. (IE your company flies you to LAX, SFO, HNG, JNB and LON regularly; it would be silly to fly with 3+ different carriers just so you can have a completely flat seat in J on every route. QF offers a fantastic product in every class so it is smarter to use them for all destinations they fly to to get miles, status etc)

I'm happy to see QF get the Y+ seats!!
Will they be seen on the current 2 class 747s that fly AKL-LAX?
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RE: Qantas Y+ Now On Sale

Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:45 pm



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 33):
well for that price you can go to a travel agent and get J class fares for a fraction of the cost...

And get fired for violating the travel policy. Very often happens that nobody cares about the price, as long as the ticked doesn't contain the words Business or First...
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