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Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:33 pm

Red Wings plane gets stuck in mud, team grounded:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...le?AID=/20071114/SPORTS05/71114019

At KCPS - St. Louis Downtown Airport.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N682RW
Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:07 pm

looks like i'm not the only one reading about the mighty Wings first thing in the morning...

Any further updates? I'd guess it's out of the mud by now.

Does anyone have inside pictures of the plane? Curious about what kind of seats/layout/etc.

On that, I heard the the Dallas Stars have a very nice new plane with flatbed and lie-flats seats??

Go Wings!!
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:11 pm



Quoting Jkarp2112 (Reply 1):
I heard the the Dallas Stars have a very nice new plane with flatbed and lie-flats seats??

The Stars share that plane (a 757) with the Texas Rangers...both teams are owned by Tom Hicks, who also owns the 757.

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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:55 pm

Someone better call Joe Patroni.
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:37 pm



Quoting 727Tiger (Reply 3):
Someone better call Joe Patroni

It was only a matter of time for that one.

Hopefully their planes status will be a mirror of the season for them. (keeps fingers crossed)
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:43 pm

What I wanna know is THIS: WHY in the WORLD would THEY LAND at St. Louis DOWNTOWN Airport  Confused  Wow! BLV I could understand, but I didn't think that Downtown Airport had enough runway to handle a DC-9
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:51 pm



Quoting FlyBoy84 (Reply 5):
I could understand, but I didn't think that Downtown Airport had enough runway to handle a DC-9

Runway 12R/30L is 6997 feet long, more than enough to handle a DC-9, especially one in a charter configuration.

I've seen team charter flights fly into SUS (Spirit of St. Louis) as well. They have a 5000' and a 7485' runway. I believe the Blues fly their charters in/out of SUS.
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:16 pm

Any A-Netters in the area that can add an update to this situation.

Courtesy: KSDK-TV

Detroit Red Wings Jet Gets Stuck In Mud

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=134148

Helicopter Aerial Video:

http://www.ksdk.com/video/default.aspx?aid=62866&bw=

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Courtesy: KTVI-TV

Red Wings Make Most Of Time Stuck In St. Louis

http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/...EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Edited 2007-11-14 14:24:21]
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:07 am

Interesting. I'd love to see what the inside looks like!

On the same note, hasn't NW retired their DC-9s already?  Wink

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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:31 am



Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 2):

The Stars share that plane (a 757) with the Texas Rangers...both teams are owned by Tom Hicks, who also owns the 757.

Tom at MSY

It's a 727. They keep it at Love. I've loaded it many times in STL. One side is painted in Stars colors, the other in Rangers. I think it's the Mavericks that have a 757.

Quoting FlyBoy84 (Reply 5):
What I wanna know is THIS: WHY in the WORLD would THEY LAND at St. Louis DOWNTOWN Airport BLV I could understand, but I didn't think that Downtown Airport had enough runway to handle a DC-9

Because it's more than enough runway to handle the aircraft, and it's about 10 minutes from downtown. They've gone there for years. You don't need a ton of fuel when you're only going to Detroit.

The Blues fly out of SUS on Midwest unless they're going to the west coast. Then they'll come to STL so the aircraft has the runway it needs.
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:52 am



Quoting N710PS (Reply 4):
Hopefully their planes status will be a mirror of the season for them.

Amen and AMEN brother!

From Nashville with love.  Smile
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:05 am

Pilotpip: there was a piece on that airplane during a recent Stars telecast.....and the Stars/Rangers are now indeed trotting around in a 757. I recall seeing the old 727 on telecasts in the past. It would seem Tom Hicks is expanding his aviation horizons, but rest assured, they are now in a 757.

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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:21 am



Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 11):
Pilotpip: there was a piece on that airplane during a recent Stars telecast.....and the Stars/Rangers are now indeed trotting around in a 757. I recall seeing the old 727 on telecasts in the past. It would seem Tom Hicks is expanding his aviation horizons, but rest assured, they are now in a 757.

Tom at MSY (on the CrackBerry)

Cool, last time I was at Love before we ended service there the 72 was still there. It was a pretty nice setup.
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:37 am



Quoting FlyBoy84 (Reply 5):
What I wanna know is THIS: WHY in the WORLD would THEY LAND at St. Louis DOWNTOWN Airport Confused Wow! BLV I could understand, but I didn't think that Downtown Airport had enough runway to handle a DC-9

CPS is literally right across the river from St. Louis. Where I used to work in south St. Louis on the Missouri side, I could watch the planes land across the river at CPS. KBLV is nearly half an hour outside of St. Louis.
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:31 am



Quoting Lexy (Reply 10):
Quoting N710PS (Reply 4):
Hopefully their planes status will be a mirror of the season for them.

Amen and AMEN brother!

From Nashville with love.

and CMH...they have our number much as the Preds do too
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:09 am

As of the 10 'o clock news, the plane is still stuck. The Red Wings flew back to Detroit on a different, chartered flight.
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:13 am



Quoting 777STL (Reply 15):
The Red Wings flew back to Detroit on a different, chartered flight

Looks like this is it... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N559LC
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:30 am



Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 9):
I think it's the Mavericks that have a 757.

You are 100% correct on that.
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:35 am



Quoting Lexy (Reply 10):

Amen and AMEN brother!

From Nashville with love.

Why would they wanna follow the Preds lead? Shouldn't you guys be in Quebec City by now?
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:45 pm

Quoting KDTWFlyer (Reply 16):
Looks like this is it... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N559LC

I don't think they could get the whole team on Ilitch's G-II. Perhaps the G-II picked up some of the coaches and brass that may have accompanied the Wings...

This may have been it out of STL to DTW. USA Jet (callsign Jet USA) does operate pax charters too:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/J...5/history/20071114/2106Z/KSTL/KDTW

USA Jet Airlines:

http://www.usajetairlines.com/

[Edited 2007-11-15 05:55:12]
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:03 pm

The team flew on USAJet, supposedly the owners of the team flew in to take a look at the plane. It's still at CPS waiting to get inspected.
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:19 pm



Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 9):
It's a 727. They keep it at Love. I've loaded it many times in STL. One side is painted in Stars colors, the other in Rangers. I think it's the Mavericks that have a 757.

Tom is correct - the "new" B757 (it was manufactured in 1983) was put into service after the Rangers season ended - when the Stars season began.

http://stars.nhl.com/team/app/?servi...age&page=NewsPage&articleid=340984

Click on the top picture / photo gallery for a good look at the plane.

CPS will not be too small a runway for the B757. I've had the pleasure of flying on the Dallas Mavericks B757 out of KADS when my company chartered the aircraft to take a lot of people up to Louisville KY for a day - for a major meeting. The runway at Addison is only about 225 feet longer than CPS.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 2):
both teams are owned by Tom Hicks, who also owns the 757.

FAA records list the owner of N757SS as - SOUTHWEST SPORTSJET LLC, Anchorage, AK

Flight History

FTW 09-27-2007 19:44 DAL 09-27-2007 19:51 Landed
DAL 10-03-2007 00:08 FTW 10-03-2007 00:14 Landed
FTW 10-13-2007 18:57 FTW 10-13-2007 21:11 Landed
FTW 10-18-2007 22:17 DAL 10-18-2007 22:23 Landed
DAL 10-23-2007 19:24 LAX 10-23-2007 22:00 Landed
LAX 10-26-2007 18:29 PHX 10-26-2007 19:26 Landed
PHX 10-28-2007 17:43 DAL 10-28-2007 19:32 Landed
DAL 11-04-2007 23:16 LGB 11-05-2007 02:18 Landed
LGB 11-06-2007 19:55 SJC 11-06-2007 20:49 Landed
SJC 11-08-2007 07:11 PHX 11-08-2007 08:34 Landed
PHX 11-09-2007 06:08 LAX 11-09-2007 07:09 Landed
LAX 11-11-2007 07:56 DAL 11-11-2007 10:30 Landed
DAL 11-13-2007 21:04 FTW 11-13-2007 21:10 Landed

I'm surprised no spotters have put a photo on A-Net
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:13 pm

Rangers 757 used to be N757BJ the used for teh Pheonix Suns and Diamondbacks.
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:22 pm

After going 6 wheelin' in the mud, N682RW is now back in DTW:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...W/history/20071115/2231Z/KCPS/KDTW
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:42 pm

I saw the Stars' 727 at CMH last year prior to a CBJ/Stars game. (Jackets won 2-1 in OT) It was parked at Million Air, IIRC.
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:51 pm

They have upgraded KGKY including a 1,000 ft extension of the runway - for one reason so that the Rangers could use that airport for their B727 - I wonder if the B757 will be flying out of there next summer.
 
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:29 am

For you airliner fans, this plane was N994EA then N412EA when delivered to Eastern new in 1977..
It is a model 50 and also flew for TWA in the 90's.
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RE: Detroit Red Wings Plane Gets Stuck In Mud

Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:41 am

The Redwings deserve a better plane than an ancient DC-9...

but then again that might start jokes on here about several of the players being older than the plane.

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