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Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:33 pm

Hi to Everyone,

I just acquired a Horizon Airlines Timetable from December of 1984 and was really impresses.

First of all, this was when Horizon still wore its own colors. They were also flying DC-9 "Sunships" along with props, which surprised me since it was and still is a commuter carrier.

But most importantly, on almost all flights, they served either a Continental Breakfast or a Snack. Very impressive for a commuter carrier.

This seemed like a great independent airline and I am wondering if anyone can share their experiences they had well flying with Horizon in the 80's? (Before they became an Alaska Airlines Commuter Carrier)

What was the service like?

What were the meals/Snacks like?

What did the aircraft interiors look like?

And anything else you may wish to add.


Thanks,

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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:39 pm

Well I know that they flew the F-27, some Metros after they took over Air Oregon, and Transwestern. Plus they fought real hard against Cascade Airways and won. Also, According to their book they have been offering executive service since their startup, as they still offer good items on board especially for a regional airline.
 
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:50 pm

They also flew a bunch of F28's, and I believe they had a deal in place to acquire Cascade Airways before that fell apart and they closed.

Honestly, it's hard to remember a time when they weren't a partner of AS.

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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:55 pm

Ram025:

You refer to "their book." What is the title and author? I would love to purchase a copy.

Thanks,

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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:37 pm

Big version: Width: 255 Height: 400 File size: 19kb


It is titled "Remember the Magic, the story of Horizon Air" and it was authored by Bill Endicott
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:54 pm

I know they were United's commuter carrier in SEA before AS. United was the largest airline at SEA up until AS made it their hub in the late 80's.
 
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:15 pm

Prior to being bought up by Alaska Air Group, Horizon code shared wtih United Airlines. They kept their identity but their flight numbers were UA. After Horizon was bought up by Alaska, a small company up in Pasco Washington started up as a United Express Carrier, called NPA and was the UA Express Carrier in the Northwest, flying J31's. (this was in 87-88)

At the time they were bought by AS, they ceased using Apollo as thair res system, and converted to ALAS.
 
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:29 pm

The DC-9s were actually operated by All-Star Airlines until they got their own F-28-1000s. Later upgraded to -4000s.
Flew them a bit ( BOI-GEG, BOI-PIH-IDA-BOI, TWF-SLC, BOI-SUN-BOI) prior to AS purchase. Their SWM IIIs had nice interior, for a Metro. Had full headrests and were really nice color reddish/brown, iirc. But on an ex-Transwestern Metro, no headrest and older seats. Not as nice anyway. The F-27 was ok, don't recollect much about it. Flew it SUN-BOI. Nice to be able to look down more so than anything else I'd been on up to that point. Nice operation from start. Have flew them A LOT since AS acquisition.
I liked when they started flying jets PSC-SFO just time PSA also began to do it.
Anyway, nice carrier.
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:36 pm

Thanks everyone for your generous responses!

When did the UA codeshare start?

When did Alaska buy Horizon?

Also, any memories of the food service?


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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:41 pm

They were acquired in 1986 by Alaska Air Group.
 
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:00 am

I flew with a real senior F/A the other day (83 seniority) she was talking about all this stuff...I hope that one day we can expand some more, but as far as codesharing goes, we aren't "alaska express" we are part of AAG but we have a complete different business model than they do, we use them as they use us. Most of our passengers are on QX equipment the whole way of their journey! I don't think its likely we will leave our native system again in search of a revenue generator with another airline. We have plenty of work for our RJs that we got back from the DEN system (F9) and as you probabaly know we do have CPA with AS for these aircraft that are typically used to supplement mainline routes.

Inflight service continues to be a strongpoint at Horizon, we offer a complimentary beer/ wine selection that changes monthly, as well as better snacks then you will find on mainline carriers, as well as our own inflight magazine. I believe the Q400 flying experience is the best. PAX get a window or an aisle, and we typically deplane/ Enplane though both doors, it tends to be a very stressfree travel experience for our very loyal customers!
 
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:19 am



Quoting Flyboy80 (Reply 10):
Inflight service continues to be a strongpoint at Horizon, we offer a complimentary beer/ wine selection that changes monthly, as well as better snacks then you will find on mainline carriers,

Although I wouldn't mind getting those cookies that AS serves, they are soooo goood, any of them!
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:40 am

Cookies AS serves??? You don't like the Aztec Oatmeal ones we have this month? If you fly the shuttle we have these big chocolate chip biscotti...BTW I need to stop eating them im going to take arms off whne I walk down that aisle!
 
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:30 pm



Quoting Flyboy97502 (Reply 11):
Although I wouldn't mind getting those cookies that AS serves, they are soooo goood...

 checkmark  Those cookies were so so good on my last AS flight out of DEN back to SEA. I asked the FA for more and got them, they almost ran out! I think they were oatmeal raisin, I cant remember. They were really soft though.

Does anyone know who makes those cookies for AS and is it exclusively for them?
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RE: Horizon Before Becoming Alaska Commuter Carrier

Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:35 pm



Quoting TWA1985 (Thread starter):

But most importantly, on almost all flights, they served either a Continental Breakfast or a Snack. Very impressive for a commuter carrier.

That was pretty common back then.
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