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Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:28 pm

Adria Airways, the Slovenia's national carrier, announced today they will start 4 new routes out of Ljubljana effective the summer timetable 2008 :

Athens, Greece - 3 weekly CR9
Bucharest, Romania - 4 weekly CR2
Oslo, Norway - 3 weekly CR9
Stockholm, Sweden - 4 weekly CR9

Adria Airways is also a regional Star Alliance member.
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:40 pm



Quoting LIPZ (Thread starter):
Athens, Greece - 3 weekly CR9

Nice to see ATH come online. I flew JP in C class and I have to say they are a great little airline.
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:53 pm

That's very good news. I wish Adria all the best. (Personally, I'm a little surprised that they didn't have ATH service already.)
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:06 pm

Good to see expansion with the regional jets, however has FCO been dropped?
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:12 pm

Quoting Flycro (Reply 3):
however has FCO been dropped?

Dropped in the wintertime since Rome is a seasonal route.

[Edited 2007-11-15 12:12:43]
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:14 pm

With its latest order for 2 CRJ900s and 1 CRJ1000. I would not be surprised to see it expanding even further.

Best wish to them!!!
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:09 pm

Most European capitals are now connected to LJU which is very good news indeed. Perhaps DUS or HAM may follow as they are Star hubs (of a sort)
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:49 pm

Nice selection of routes. I am little surprised by Bucharest four times per week. There has never been flights between Romania and Slovenija, and there are no trains. I guess business and/tourism? is increasing between the two. Anyway, its great to see more links between South Eastern Europe.

Quoting Flycro (Reply 6):
Most European capitals are now connected to LJU which is very good news indeed

Yes, Ljubljana has links with many many capitals: (Amsterdam, Athens,Brussels, Bucharest, Copenhagen, Dublin, , Istanbul-Atatürk, Kiev-Boryspil, London, Moscow, Munich, Oslo, Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Podgorica, Sarajevo, Skopje, Stockholm, Tirana, Vienna, Warsaw and Zürich)

Adria has a monoploy on most routes, which is understandable given the small market.

Has anyone seen the newly done terminal? With Jetways  Smile only the thrid airport of the former Yugoslavia to have them, after Belgrade and Sarajevo  Smile
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:54 pm

Telling from my own experience, it is very difficult to get to LJU for a reasonable fare (unless you use Wizz to CRL or EZY to STN). Must be a gold-mine for the carriers. The only airline offering somewhat reasonable one-way fares to LJU is JAT Airways.
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:44 pm



Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 8):
it is very difficult to get to LJU for a reasonable fare

Yes, Slovenia is never cheap. JAT have good one-way fares from Belgrade, but thats only good if you live in Serbia  Smile I can't believe its cheaper to fly to Slovenia via Belgrade than other routes. Don't forget that Ljubljana is very easily reached from neighbouring airports..

Check: (all of these airports are about an hour and a half from Ljubljana or a couple by train)

Maribor - Ryanair to London
Zagreb - Croatia Airlines often have cheaper flights than Adria. Plus Wizzair and almost dozen more carriers
Klagenfurt - Ryanair and TUI
Graz-
Trieste - Ryanair/Alitalia/JAT/Air Dolomiti

Also Venice is only 4hours away on SZ's lovely fast trains...
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:13 am

Good news  Smile

According to OSL website this is the timetable for the new Adria service between Ljubljana (LJU) - Oslo (OSL) for the summer 2008. Flight time will be around 2h30min.

Timetable:

LJU - OSL
06:05 - 08:50 JP552 CR9 Mon, Wed
19:00 - 21:45 JP552 CR9 Fri

OSL - LJU
09:35 - 12:00 JP553 CR9 Mon, Wed
22:30 - 00:55 JP553 CR9 Fri
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:54 am

Funny enough there is no any news of new routes on Adria's web page.

Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 7):
Has anyone seen the newly done terminal?

New terminal is lovely, modern, spacious. It is still very small regional airport, in my experience a pleasure to fly from. The only thing letting the airport down is the business lounge. Not very nice indeed. If T2 will be the same as new part of T1, then way to go.

Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 8):
Telling from my own experience, it is very difficult to get to LJU for a reasonable fare

Well, normally prices are quite steep but LGW can be very reasonable, sometimes even cheaper then EZY.

Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 7):
With Jetways Smile only the thrid airport of the former Yugoslavia to have them, after Belgrade and Sarajevo Smile

Are you sure that in SJJ they have airbridges?
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:12 pm



Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 9):
can't believe its cheaper to fly to Slovenia via Belgrade than other routes.

It is. There is, however, a limited number of conncetions with only one daily JAT flight to LJU and a somewhat limited JAT network out of BEG.

Quoting Lehovec (Reply 11):
Well, normally prices are quite steep but LGW can be very reasonable, sometimes even cheaper then EZY.

That's true. An option is to do XXX-STN-LJU inbound with an evening arrival and (on some days) a morning departure LJU-LGW-XXX outbound. Four low-cost flights in that order are still much cheaper than a conncetion with JP through FRA, MUC or VIE. Requires, however, really some patience as one has to kill a couple of hours in-between flights. Additionally, the Easyjet flight seems to be, for Easyjet standards, often rather expensive.


One route that should do nicely for LJU is either CGN or LJU. I have been on a lot of flights from CGN to VIE on which there were quite a few folks making a conncetion to LJU.
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:22 pm



Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 12):
Additionally, the Easyjet flight seems to be, for Easyjet standards, often rather expensive.

That is because normally the flights are full. What surprises me most about it is that English normally fly EZY probably not even aware of Adria (or thinking it is a dodgy Eastern European airline  Smile ) and Adria offers much better service (assigned seating, flying out of LGW, snack - very basic but still a snack, drinks, no charges for bags... etc)... They should do some advertisment in the UK as Slovenia is getting very populat destination for Brits.
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:51 pm



Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 12):
One route that should do nicely for LJU is either CGN or LJU

And CGN-LJU would fit in Germanwings' biz model quite well.
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:25 pm



Quoting LIPZ (Thread starter):
Stockholm, Sweden - 4 weekly CR9

That is really great news for Stockholm. Will they fly to ARN or BMA??? What will the timetable be like??
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:06 pm



Quoting B747forever (Reply 15):
Will they fly to ARN or BMA???

Arlanda...who fly's to Bromma  Wink and Adria is a regional member of Star Alliance so it makes sense.

Quoting Lehovec (Reply 11):
Are you sure that in SJJ they have airbridges?

Yep, they have two jetways at Sarajevo airport. Zagreb lags behind even Bosnia Big grin

If the Easyjet flight is so full why don't they increase the number of flights? I hope this occurs sometime, or wizzair find it pofitable to return, it was a shame when they cut that link, although it was being done as part of a W pattern and i guess they found it more profitable to use the aircraft elsewhere.

How is Ryanair doing on the Maribor route?
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:11 pm



Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 16):
Arlanda

Okey, as I thought.

Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 16):
who fly's to Bromma

Lets see, SN, Malmö Aviation, Kalmarflyg, Blekingeflyg, Vildanden, Sundsvallsflyg, Golden Air, Skyways, Gotlandsflyg, Flysmaland, Kullaflyg, BA/Sunair.
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:20 pm



Quoting B747forever (Reply 17):
who fly's to Bromma

I was teasing..i know many airlines fly to Bromma, its just they all are basically domesitc or Malmo Aviation..its not really a major place..great location however.  Smile
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:24 pm



Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 18):

Okey, I see. But dont forget SN.!!!
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:17 pm



Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 16):
How is Ryanair doing on the Maribor route?

I don't think they are doing very well as prices are always very low. I didn't think that route will do very well as GRZ is too close.

Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 16):
Zagreb lags behind even Bosnia Big grin

LOL, that is a horrible thought!

Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 16):
If the Easyjet flight is so full why don't they increase the number of flights? I hope this occurs sometime, or wizzair find it pofitable to return, it was a shame when they cut that link, although it was being done as part of a W pattern and i guess they found it more profitable to use the aircraft elsewhere.

Yes, Wizz flight to LJU was part of BUD-LTN-LJU-LTN-BUD pattern (at least that is what I was told by cabin crew when I flew with them). I flew with them 3 or 4 times and flights were empty. Normaly around 50% occupancy. I know that official reason was utilisation of a/c on other routes but I do believe that main reason was low occupancy. The only flight I was on with Wizz that was full was when EZY cancelled their flight from LJU and they transfered pax on Wizz.
It would be nice to see second rotation with EZY, like morning and evening flight but don't think this will happen.
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:52 pm



Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 7):
I am little surprised by Bucharest four times per week. There has never been flights between Romania and Slovenija, and there are no trains.

Perhaps JP is trying to get a share of the increasing traffic between Romania and Italy? Just a guess Smile.
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:01 pm



Quoting Steph001 (Reply 21):
Perhaps JP is trying to get a share of the increasing traffic between Romania and Italy?

More likely business, or even connecting passengers to elsewhere in the Balkans. If you've ever tried to go from Bucharest to Sarajevo/Zagreb or Ljubljana you'll know its not easy. Appart from flying via Budapest or elsewhere you'd have to take marathon train ride. Its 12hours from Budapest to Belgrade and then another 7to Zagreb, 9 to Ljubljana and 6 to Sarajevo (on a bus). East-West connections with the Balkans are dismal, this is due to Yugosalvia being one country (and connections between the successors could be improved alot) and little traffic between SFRJ and the Eastern Balkan states. Slovenia will now be connected to all Balkan countries except Bulgaria..nice work..and shows the position Slovenia should ecnomically and politically in the region.
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:09 pm



Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
I flew JP in C class and I have to say they are a great little airline.

Not to mention that Adria is the best airline doing the FRA-VIE-FRA run. I only use them when I travel between Vienna and Frankfurt. Small aircraft and nice and friendly service. Good luck JP.
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:40 pm



Quoting Steph001 (Reply 21):
Quoting Adriaticflight (Reply 7):
I am little surprised by Bucharest four times per week. There has never been flights between Romania and Slovenija, and there are no trains.

Perhaps JP is trying to get a share of the increasing traffic between Romania and Italy? Just a guess Smile.

Don't think this is the case as JP don't fly to Italy apart from summer Rome route. Connection from LJU to south Italy on the train wouldn't make much sense.

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 23):
Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
I flew JP in C class and I have to say they are a great little airline.

Not to mention that Adria is the best airline doing the FRA-VIE-FRA run. I only use them when I travel between Vienna and Frankfurt. Small aircraft and nice and friendly service. Good luck JP.

I've heard they are very good on that route in C. I did C on LJU-LGW-LJU and wasn't too impressed. No priority baggage, on board service was ok but nothing exciting...
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:49 pm



Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 23):
Not to mention that Adria is the best airline doing the FRA-VIE-FRA run. I only use them when I travel between Vienna and Frankfurt. Small aircraft and nice and friendly service. Good luck JP.

Haha thats exactly the flight I was on. It was so short also and the J class service was amazing. A really nice meal also. I wouldnt think twice about flying them again.
 
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RE: Adria Launches New Routes

Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:21 am



Quoting B747forever (Reply 15):
What will the timetable be like??

According to Amadeus:
LJU-ARN
Tue 06.10-08.45
Wed 19.00-21.35
Fri 06.10-08.45
Sun 19.00-21.35
Flying time 2hr 35 min

ARN-LJU
Tue 09.30-1200
Wed 22.20-00.50
Fri 09.30-12.00
Sun 22.20-00.50
Flying time 2hr 30min

Very nice too see Adria in Stockholm!