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Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:45 am

I am not sure if this has ever been done.. but..

The upcoming launch of Tiger Airways.. had a walk past the "new" Terminal 4 the other week.. they look ready to go!

The new 3x weekly KE services

The increase in CX to 3 daily

Anything else on the horizon?!

Are Virgin's e-jets going to be making a presence here?

I was bummed out to find out my flight to HBA in a couple of weeks was to be an E175 only to be cancelled and we were then rebooked on a later flight only to be another B737-700 flight...
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:50 am

I personally think that this topic could be better discussed in the current Australian Aviation Thread.
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:55 am



Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
I personally think that this topic could be better discussed in the current Australian Aviation Thread.

Thank you for your valued opinion.

Anyway, just thought of something else.

SQ's roadshow just came through town and highlighted the A380. No mention of planned A380 service here, but what does everybody think of a reasonable timeframe we will see it here... or will QF's A380 be the first out of MEL?

Next flight to SIN next March, we are seriously thinking of flying via SYD just for the experience.

My last flight back on SQ 2 weeks ago on the 77W was amazing.. one of my best flights EVER.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:02 am



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 2):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
I personally think that this topic could be better discussed in the current Australian Aviation Thread.

Thank you for your valued opinion.

I think having threads about airports is a good idea, but only if its a busy airport like LAX, JFK, ORD, HNL, LHR etc that have a high aircraft usuage and have many different types of flights like delivery flights (HNL)
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:26 am



Quoting 777ER (Reply 3):
I think having threads about airports is a good idea, but only if its a busy airport like LAX, JFK, ORD, HNL, LHR etc

I owuld have thought that it would be better discussed in the Aus Aviaiton threadf
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:43 am



Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
I personally think that this topic could be better discussed in the current Australian Aviation Thread

I for one am not a fan of the national threads - and much prefer specific discussions (which may or not include a national aspect) - but respect the preference of some to discuss within a national interest. As it is, we all have the option: put a discussion in an existing thread (whether it be nationally-based or not), or post a new one.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 3):
I think having threads about airports is a good idea, but only if its a busy airport

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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:58 am

China Southern introduces Melbourne-Guangzhou direct service eliminating the stop in SYD


The buring question is when will Qatar and Air India start service to MEL??
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:07 am



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 2):
or will QF's A380 be the first out of MEL?

Qantas will be the first to introduce the A380 on the MEL-LAX run...

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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:09 pm

Looks like by next March Tiger Airways will have about 14 daily flights out of Tullamarine.

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 7):
The buring question is when will Qatar and Air India start service to MEL??

Exactly. There was so much hype about Qatar Airways and MEL. Haven't heard anything recently. Sounds like it just kind of fizzled out.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:34 pm



Quoting 777ER (Reply 3):
I think having threads about airports is a good idea, but only if its a busy airport like LAX, JFK, ORD, HNL, LHR

Yes, that's right. maybe we focus only on the crappy, congested airports only.
Don't bother with airports with capacity and 24 hour operations...

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 7):

The buring question is when will Qatar and Air India start service to MEL??



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 9):
Exactly. There was so much hype about Qatar Airways and MEL. Haven't heard anything recently. Sounds like it just kind of fizzled out.

Indian has been deferred in light of the merger with Air India. I would expect this to be reconsidered for a NOV 2008 start.

As for QR... don't forget the B777s are coming into the fleet now.
Expect an announcement by Feb 08 for a June commencement..
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:14 am

I think it is time for a complete overhaul of Tullamarine.

I know they are planning an upgrade of the International Terminal (again). But seriously, I think it is time to rip the whole complex down and build a completely new facility. Maybe its time to spend some of that massive surplus on better infrastructure.

One of the biggest weaknesses is the amount of curbside available. Every morning flight I take is a batlle of grid lock backed up all the way to Centre Road. This is an absolute mess.

And as for dining options, the airport has very little to offer. Fast food, pub food and that's about it! Overall airports in Australia are lagging behind in this.

Adelaide's new airport is awesome compared to Tullamarine, although on a much smaller scale.

It also sucks that the observation deck is still closed... Sydney's never closed after all the terrorist attacks in the US, so why is Melbourne's closed?!
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:56 am



Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 10):
Yes, that's right. maybe we focus only on the crappy, congested airports only.

Like DXB? - a 2-star-airport serving mainly 4-star airlines.

Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 11):
I think it is time for a complete overhaul of Tullamarine.

Anything could be better. But I just love MEL. It has plenty of room, good shops in every corner of the airport, before and after customs. And I find the view of aircraft great. Customs staff can be self-righteous (just as Australian customs are everywhere, with somewhat dogmatic profiling - as viewable every week on "Border Security". But then they are obviously not recruited for their sensitivity to difference or imagination).
Short-term parking can be very expensive, but long-term OK. I much prefer it over SYD; and to compare it with ADL or PER is like comparing an elephant with an ant.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:07 am



Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
I personally think that this topic could be better discussed in the current Australian Aviation Thread.

So every topic having anything to do with Australia should be jammed up in one single thread?

Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 11):
I know they are planning an upgrade of the International Terminal (again). But seriously, I think it is time to rip the whole complex down and build a completely new facility. Maybe its time to spend some of that massive surplus on better infrastructure.

I love the fact that MEL has its int'l and domestic flights all in the same building (except for term 4). Somehow this got lost on the other major Australian airports.



MEL is still a bit busier than BNE, which is moving forward with a parallel runway. Does anyone know when MEL will move forward with one of its planned new runways? If anyone can post a link showing how the runway/taxiway layout will look like, I would appreciate it. The best I could find was a Melbourne highway map, which didn't show any detail.
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:33 am



Quoting PITrules (Reply 13):


Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
I personally think that this topic could be better discussed in the current Australian Aviation Thread.

So every topic having anything to do with Australia should be jammed up in one single thread?

Welll that thread is hardly active so even diluting it even further by AUS airports prob won;t be too successful

I thought we had a Melbourne Airport thread in the past?
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:40 am



Quoting PITrules (Reply 13):
MEL is still a bit busier than BNE, which is moving forward with a parallel runway. Does anyone know when MEL will move forward with one of its planned new runways? If anyone can post a link showing how the runway/taxiway layout will look like, I would appreciate it. The best I could find was a Melbourne highway map, which didn't show any detail.

There doesn't appear to be any news about actually building a new runway in the near future. The thing about MEL is, it does not have a hub system. Flights tend to be scattered out with decent frequency all day long. I have NEVER had to wait in a long line of planes waiting to take off. That is where the airport runs very efficiently. However, there has been the odd flight heading to MEL that has had to "slow down" for arrivals ATC.

Quoting PITrules (Reply 13):
MEL is still a bit busier than BNE

BNE seems to be catching up to MEL and there is talk that it may overtake MEL in the next couple of years.

Quoting Antskip (Reply 12):
It has plenty of room, good shops in every corner of the airport, before and after customs.

Well compared to most Asian airports it always disappoints me with the shops and choice of restaurants. It is not a particularly exciting airport to have to spend a few hours at waiting for a flight.

The airport just looks so dated and bland. I say knock it down!

And the views of the airplanes was awesome when we had the observation deck.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:54 am

As much as knocking it all down and starting again sounds great, I have come to relaise it just is not feasiable.The airport does a good efficient job. IOt handles the volumes well and has room to expand in future. It would be great to have an airport like Hong Kong or Kuala Lumpur, but is that really neccesary. Most of those projects are usually pilitical statements it seems, which is something that a private organisation just will not invest the capital into.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:10 am



Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 16):
Most of those projects are usually pilitical statements it seems, which is something that a private organisation just will not invest the capital into.

I agree completely... but it's great to dream! Ha Ha!

Quoting ANstar (Reply 14):
Welll that thread is hardly active so even diluting it even further by AUS airports prob won;t be too successful

I thought we had a Melbourne Airport thread in the past?

Not since 2002.

But seriously, get over it. If people want to discuss Melbourne only (as you can clearly see they have), that is anyone's prerogative.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:52 am



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 15):
The airport just looks so dated and bland. I say knock it down!

Last time I travelled through MEL, which wasn't so many years ago, it looked ok to me. It suffers from too many arriving Asian flights in the morning, and dreadful queues in immigration and customs, but I assume it also has slack international periods which would negate the need for any substantial expansion. It wouldn't hurt to provide more immigration officers and customs officials when they're most needed, but you could probably say that about any large airport throughout the world.

Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 11):
Maybe its time to spend some of that massive surplus on better infrastructure.

Do you mean Melbourne airport surplus or Victoria surplus? Have the plans to link the airport to the rail network re-surfaced or is that still in the 'too hard basket'?
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:24 am



Quoting PITrules (Reply 13):
Does anyone know when MEL will move forward with one of its planned new runways?

I think I've seen Melways (local road maps) that show proposed parallel runways at MEL. I get the feeling it is on the Governments wish list but right now it just doesn't seem necessary.

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 18):
Do you mean Melbourne airport surplus or Victoria surplus? Have the plans to link the airport to the rail network re-surfaced or is that still in the 'too hard basket'?

I think it's been put in the 'it looks too much like a train' basket. The current Victorian Government seems to be fairly anti-rail when it comes to Melbourne in general. I also doubt that any other government that could form would build a rail link to MEL. If I recall correctly (ie may not be correct) electorates where any train line would run through are marginal seats which makes any rail unlikely. Personally I would love to see a train line out to MEL.

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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:00 am



Quoting WithaK (Reply 19):
I think it's been put in the 'it looks too much like a train' basket. The current Victorian Government seems to be fairly anti-rail when it comes to Melbourne in general... Personally I would love to see a train line out to MEL.

The suburban rail system is under such enormous pressure at the moment from commuters (who are using public rail at rapidly increasing levels), I doubt that a rail line serving the airport is anywhere near the top of the list of priorities. Due to years of neglect (from both parties, as well as the short-sightedness of private management), the entire existing network is in dire need of huge investment to provide the ordinary needs of its citizens getting around the city to and from work. One thing the Tulla has going for it is very fine road access - the pay-road is incredibly quick and a beautiful ride to and from the airport; the "free" Western Ring Road is also very fine. I would think that once there is much more rolling stock, more investment in new signalling systems, some desperately needed double-tracking, and extensions to a few more places where workers need to travel into the city from, then maybe the airport will be looked at.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:28 am



Quoting MainMAN (Reply 18):
Do you mean Melbourne airport surplus or Victoria surplus? Have the plans to link the airport to the rail network re-surfaced or is that still in the 'too hard basket'?

The problems with airport rail links in Sydney and Brisbane have soured the drive for one.. IMO its a novelty item at the moment. In the meantime, the various airport bus transfers and taxi services do a very good job for those who won't travel and park themselves. The Age article I linked to at the bottom of this post notes the state government sanctioned bus-airport service for inner city travellers (Skybus) only carried 1.2million of the 20million Melbourne aiport passengers last year.

Unfortunately, for both sides of politics here, rail infrastructure of any kind (apart from new trains) is just not sexy, increases in oil price are starting to turn the mood around..

* Note that the current (possibly outgoing) Federal government has a policy not to fund public transport as a rule, thats why getting a road, and steady ride to an airport will always be a piece of cake.

See http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2006/06/03/1148956582240.html
and http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/03/10/1141701698598.html
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:49 am



Quoting VHHYI (Reply 21):

Thanks for the links. The final statement in the age article is the clincher and backs up Antskip's point exactly.

Quote:
there are a lot of better ways of spending $500 million on railways in Melbourne than this one at the moment.

Consider me informed. Thanks

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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:19 am

Here is a link to the planned T2 (International Terminal) expansion.

They JUST completed phase 1 of it last year, but this one certainly looks more impressive.

http://www.melbourneairport.com.au/t2/

With 5 more international gates they will most certainly have to enlarge the customs/immigration processing and hall.

This is one of the biggest weaknesses at the airport now.

I look forward to to the days of nonstop flights to YVR... pipe dream maybe...
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:18 am

The new expansion will see a net increase of three new gates. The initial stage of the expansion is the expansion of the outbound and inbound processing infrastructure. As part of this stage, gate 1 will be lost as they expand into the terminal into the concourse on that side to allow for additional processing room.

I have always found Melbourne airport straightforward and efficient: just what you want as a traveller. If I want to shop, Melbourne CBD is a much better place to spend your time.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:48 am



Quoting Aware (Reply 24):
I have always found Melbourne airport straightforward and efficient

Except the international arrivals hall and customs/immigration. It is archaic looking and very congested.
There is no mention in the expansion plan about increasing the customs area. That will desperately need a major overhaul if they want to increase gate space. Even 3 additional arrivals in a short period of time would choke the primary customs arrivals area.

The lack of curbside is another major issue. Melbourne is a huge O+D airport and they need to consider a more efficient drop-off and pick-up system. Compared to most other cities around the world, this always seems to be a mess, especially during the peak morning rush.

Good to see that the expansion is addressing the much needed increase in eating options.

As for shopping, I never considered an airport a destination for shopping. Just great for the international traveller though.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:28 am

Airliner World had a newsclip a few months ago about LTU starting a Berlin-MEL route. Anyone have anymore details?
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:47 am



Quoting PITrules (Reply 26):
Airliner World had a newsclip a few months ago about LTU starting a Berlin-MEL route. Anyone have anymore details?

Sorry, wrong Melbourne. Airliner World didn't specify which one, I assumed it was AUS, not FL.
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:25 pm



Quoting PITrules (Reply 13):
MEL is still a bit busier than BNE, which is moving forward with a parallel runway. Does anyone know when MEL will move forward with one of its planned new runways? If anyone can post a link showing how the runway/taxiway layout will look like, I would appreciate it. The best I could find was a Melbourne highway map, which didn't show any detail

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Work is currently underway on the 2008 Master Plan. The most recent edition was produced in 2003, and is available to download as a PDF.

http://www.melbourneairport.com.au/about_airport/planning.asp - this is the link!

On the new international terminal development, I would have thought that a mid-field terminal would have provided more gates than the current design? Maybe there is not enough room, however from what i can see there would be?

It's a good airport and i enjoy going there every time I head down to Melbourne for business. It would be great to see a few more airlines there, but no doubt they'll come in time. Great to see that KE have started flights & that airlines like CX, QF & CZ & China Eastern are all increasing their presence there!

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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:33 pm



Quoting VH-BZF (Reply 28):

Thanks VH-BZF.

The final runway buildout does not look very efficient, as each runway will cross two others. Why not stagger them so they don't intersect; or plan 3 parallel in the most often used direction with one crossfield? But that's just my humble opinion.
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:03 am



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 25):
It is archaic looking and very congested.
There is no mention in the expansion plan about increasing the customs area.

I experienced this personally a few weeks back. I was on QF 73 from SFO and thought everything was great until I saw the baggage area. Four flights arrived at the same time and the place was packed. They were unloading two flights one one baggage carousel. The lines to go through agriculture were very long. It took me an hour and a half to get out. It was frustrating to say the least.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:53 am

I welcome this thread with open arms!

Sure it can fit within the Australian Aviation thread, but that thread is quite large and full of a lot of information, that sweet Tulla would get lost!

I love this airport! Being from regional Victoria, this is my International and most often, Domestic hub. And of course this is my only spotting location that i can really enjoy (after a 3 hour drive!)

I am still hurting from the closure of the viewing area as this was the best place to get the smell, sounds and sights of this airport. It did lack a view of the southern end of the North/South runway but it was great for the Eastern Arrivals. I always thought that an extension to the airport and additional runways would be very good for Tulla but in my opinion, the two runways are not getting flogged to death with traffic so would not be of major concern at the moment. Dont get me wrong, I was excited, and enjoyed watching, the expansion of the runways for the A380 requirements. The insides of the terminals would benefit from expansion throughout and a little update from the 60's/70's design. More popular cafes are starting to appear around the airport but the facility is dead between 1AM and 6 AM. (experience is a bitch!)

The check ins are quite spacious until peak travel times, then it is utter chaos. And as mentioned, the baggage hall is quite dated and inadequate as well.

But at the end of the day, Tulla is still a great girl to visit and would love to see her have a facelift, but not a terminal at a time. Give her the wor kthat she deserves, and indeed, what Melbourne and us Victorians deserve!

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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:30 am



Quoting VHECA (Reply 31):
but the facility is dead between 1AM and 6 AM.

domestic perhaps, due to curfews elsewhere, but not international!

There is a lot of activity around the fringes

Cargolux
1pw arrives 0230, departs 0430
2pw arrive 2130, depart 2330

Cathay
daily departs 0120

Emirates
daily arrives 0130

Air Pacific
arrive 0030, depart 0145

Malaysia Airlines
depart daily 0045

PAL
2pw depart 0020


Qantas
QF 10 daily at 0545
QF 29 HKG-LHR departs 2359

SQ
daily at 0050

TG
daily departs 0045

Not too bad!
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:07 am

I was stuck at YMML between the hours of 1 and 6 in the morning but struggled to find something to eat other than vending machines. Like 6th Freedom said, there are fringe activity with regards to flights, but the departure halls were dead. The seating is totally uncomfortable and there is nothing to do. Could not even get access to ob deck for some spotting of fringe activity!

Ah well. She still is a great airport.

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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:03 am

Looks like the first Tiger Airways flights got off the ground successfully yesterday.

I think it's great that they are really focussing on Melbourne. All routes so far announced originate from Tullamarine.

If anybody has had the chance to fly them yet out of / in to Tulla what was your experience like?

Looks like QF is playing hardball again... along the same lines as their "reaction" when DJ took to the skies a few years ago.

Typical... but understandable.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:15 am



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 34):
Looks like QF is playing hardball again... along the same lines as their "reaction" when DJ took to the skies a few years ago.

Only difference this time is I bet any money Qantas and Virgin will join forces and push the new competiter out the back door...


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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:05 am

Any masterplan images of Sydney Kingsford Smith Int Airport? There is alot of earth moving equipment around the Int. Airport and around the remote parking areas, wouldnt mind getting a link to site which shows what kind of works are under way... I heard a NEW international pier will soon under go construction and both domestic terminals are to be linked...

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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:27 am



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 34):
I think it's great that they are really focussing on Melbourne. All routes so far announced originate from Tullamarine.

And all services will remain from melbourne untila second base opens...

this is the reason TT can offer low fares... no overnight crewing, anywhere...
plus they maximise crew time..

so crew may do MEL-OOL-MEL-LST-MEL, then goes home...
next crew might do MEL - ROK - MEL - HBA - MEL etc etc...

my guess is next base will be OOL or perhaps DRW..
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:28 am

Melbourne is very well served by Asian carriers with most major airlines flying here.

What about one of the Japanese airlines. I would say JAL would be unlikely as it is now in Oneworld and can "get by" with its Qantas code share flights.

ANA would be a bit of a stretch as well as it doesn't seem to be a priority for them in Australia.

I have heard Oasis Hong Kong is on the horizon.. but when is the question.

Also, the Indian flights once they get that sorted out.

It's sad that there are no European carriers flying into Melbourne (in fact to Australia except BA SYD).
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:30 am



Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 37):
this is the reason TT can offer low fares... no overnight crewing, anywhere...
plus they maximise crew time..

Yes, but look at Westjet in Canada. They still have only one crew base (Calgary) yet they fly all over North America. Yet they still manage to keep fares down while making record profits.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:42 am



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 38):
It's sad that there are no European carriers flying into Melbourne (in fact to Australia except BA SYD).

Virgin Atlantic also fly into Sydney
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:51 am



Quoting YVR1968 (Reply 39):
Yes, but look at Westjet in Canada. They still have only one crew base (Calgary) yet they fly all over North America. Yet they still manage to keep fares down while making record profits.

I don't know much about westjet, but having a look at their route network, it appears that they:
1. have aircraft and crew bases in other cities; or
2. unlike Tiger, they have crews overnight at ports other than Calgary.

The point is that Tiger will not overnight crew outside Melbourne, and therefore all flights will arrive/depart melbourne unless operated as a tag.. all within the crew limit times.
 
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RE: Melbourne Airport Thread

Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:04 am

So why exactly did they close the observation deck? I loved that place.

In terms of food and drink, the big young guy at Hudson's Coffee opposite Gate 4 Virgin Blue makes great coffee and there's a nice view to watch the loading/unloading of whatever DJ flight is parked at the gate.

Given that Melbourne Airport owns Launceston Airport, we can talk about LST here too right?

Was at LST last week and they were getting ready for Tiger....they've taken out the tourism/investment information stand in between the southern arrivals gate and the DJ check-in counters. They've stuck the Tiger desks in there. They smelt very plasticy and new. Not sure how that end of the airport would cope with a Virgin movement and a Tiger movement at the same time, as you'd have two flights arriving all through the same gate ,and two flights leaving, all checking in, in a very small area.

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