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How To Tell A342/343 Apart

Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:23 am

I was at HKG a couple of weeks ago, when I saw an SAA 340-something. It was either a -200 or a -300. From a distance, I couldn't tell the difference between the two. Now, I've just been presented with a picture of an SAA A340-something in the Photo Quiz, and I couldn't tell which it was.

How do you tell the difference between the two, especially head-on?

I know the A342 is the "shrink," but unless I see the two of them together, I doubt I'd be able to look at one and say "that's a -200" or "that's a -300" -- any tricks?
 
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RE: How To Tell A342/343 Apart

Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:32 am

As you've said, the A340-200 is shorter than the A340-300, albeit not to the same degree as on the A330.

(BTW- anybody a clue why the A340-300 lenght equals that of an A330-300, but NOT the A340-200 vs A330-200?)

Best is to have a look at the fuselage section ahead of the wings.

if you find door 2L or 2R over the tip of the wing fairing, it is a -200, if you find it well ahead of it, it is a -300.

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RE: How To Tell A342/343 Apart

Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:44 am



Quoting Slz396 (Reply 1):
(BTW- anybody a clue why the A340-300 lenght equals that of an A330-300, but NOT the A340-200 vs A330-200?)

I think that it might be due to the A342 A343 and A333 being developed at the same time, so they based two of the birds on the same fuse length. Whereas the A332 was a later shrink version of the A333 and was sized for its requirements.

This question has set me thinking as to how many differant lengths the original A300 fuse cross-section has come in, this is my guess (using wikipedia so health warning attached!):

A300 54m
A310 46.6m
A332 58.8m
A333 63.6m
A342 59.4m
A343 63.6m
A345 67.9m
A346 75.4m

I wonder what the A350XNB versions were supposed to be?
 
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RE: How To Tell A342/343 Apart

Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:54 am



Quoting Brenintw (Thread starter):
I doubt I'd be able to look at one and say "that's a -200" or "that's a -300"

Given that out of 252 A340-200/300s ordered, just 28 -200s were produced, it is actually quite rare to see a -200.

Another "clue" is who operates those few -200s:


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RE: How To Tell A342/343 Apart

Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:54 am



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 2):
A300 54m
A310 46.6m
A332 58.8m
A333 63.6m
A342 59.4m
A343 63.6m
A345 67.9m
A346 75.4m

when you look at the A342 and A332, there is only 0.6m difference, could they not have just stretched the A332 by an extra 0.6m and use a standard fuselage between the two models?
 
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RE: How To Tell A342/343 Apart

Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:56 am



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 2):
A300 54m

You may split the A300 out in 2 different lengths: the original design was dubbed the -B1 (only 2 built) and was shorter than the production versions -B2, -B4 and ultimately -600(R).

The first A300-B1 got scrapped, the second one however was delivered to TEA Belgium and flew for many years before it was scrapped too, so it does definitely count as a production model.

Have a look at this picture, I am sure you'll agree with me it doesn't look like an ordinary A300, nor is it a shortbodied A310.


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RE: How To Tell A342/343 Apart

Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:03 am



Quoting Slz396 (Reply 5):
Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 2):
A300 54m

You may split the A300 out in 2 different lengths: the original design was dubbed the -B1 (only 2 built) and was shorter than the production versions -B2, -B4 and ultimately -600(R).

The first A300-B1 got scrapped, the second one however was delivered to TEA Belgium and flew for many years before it was scrapped too, so it does definitely count as a production model.

Have a look at this picture, I am sure you'll agree with me it doesn't look like an ordinary A300, nor is it a shortbodied A310.

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RE: How To Tell A342/343 Apart

Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:24 pm



Quoting Slz396 (Reply 5):
the second one however was delivered to TEA Belgium and flew for many years before it was scrapped too, so it does definitely count as a production model.

It only got scrapped after it spend many years on an apron at BRU slowly rotting away  Sad . Quite a shame, IMHO, as it sure would have been nice to keep at least the second plane Airbus ever built around, given that they scrapped the first B1 so damn fast.
 
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RE: How To Tell A342/343 Apart

Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:54 pm



Quoting Slz396 (Reply 5):
Have a look at this picture, I am sure you'll agree with me it doesn't look like an ordinary A300, nor is it a shortbodied A310.

Brilliant thanks!

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