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SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:40 pm

Does anyone know when SQ are expecting the delivery of their second A380, when schedule rtns SIN/LHR will start and what flights each week it will be deplyed on?
 
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:26 am

9V-SKB (MSN005) should be delivered in early January. SQ's online ticketing hasn't been updated yet. It still shows B744s for SIN-LHR-SIN flights.
 
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:38 am

Singapore Airlines are planning to inaugurate services to London Heathrow with the Airbus A380 featuring the revoltionary new products at the end of March. I think this implies 15 - 31 March 2008.

The flights will be SQ322 SINLHR and SQ317 LHRSIN.
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:26 am



Quoting Nicholaschee (Reply 1):
9V-SKB (MSN005) should be delivered in early January. SQ's online ticketing hasn't been updated yet. It still shows B744s for SIN-LHR-SIN flights.

SQ cannot run a daily SIN-LHR schedule with only two aircraft, unless it were to drop SIN-SYD, which I think unlikely, especially in JAN.

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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:31 am

Think they are planning on rotating the aircraft on SYD>SIN>LHR>SIN>SYD in a loop, timing wise I don't know if they can do it with 2 aircraft....logic tells me they can...barely.
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:39 am



Quoting SQ452 (Reply 4):
Think they are planning on rotating the aircraft on SYD>SIN>LHR>SIN>SYD in a loop, timing wise I don't know if they can do it with 2 aircraft....logic tells me they can...barely.

They can not! The flight time SYD-LHR is 23.5 hours (more or less) including a 1hr 40min transit stop, but not including any turn around time. Therefore a round trip takes 47 hours, without accounting for ANY time at SYD or LHR. Not practicable. You need three airframes. You might be able to do it with 2.5 airframes if your slot times at LHR allow it, but if you haven't got 3 airframes you dont have 2.5 either!  Smile

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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:42 am

So I guess what we need to know is when will the 3rd A380 join the SQ fleet?

I suppose they will be using their 2nd on regional routes or also on SYD and then when the 3rd one arrives, start daily LHR service using the A380 at the start of the airline Summer season, and having connecting daily SYD service at SIN.
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:53 am

With 2 airframes in rotation and a daily SIN/SYD rotation I think they could manage a thrice weekley A380 LHR/SIN - presumably on the busiest days?
 
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:06 am



Quoting Amciver (Reply 7):
With 2 airframes in rotation and a daily SIN/SYD rotation I think they could manage a thrice weekley A380 LHR/SIN - presumably on the busiest days?

Yes they could probably manage that, but I doubt they would want to operate a service less than daily SIN-LHR. A 3weekly A380/4weekly B744 service would be awkward to operate unless they only sold B744 number of seats on the A380. But even if you did this you would still have less than daily R class service between SIN & LHR and some how I don't think so.

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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:16 am



Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
SQ cannot run a daily SIN-LHR schedule with only two aircraft, unless it were to drop SIN-SYD, which I think unlikely, especially in JAN.

Is it not possible for a 380 and a 747 or two to cover a route? As long as there are computers assisting with the reservations, the airline should know which A/C will be on a particular flight months in advance.

It seems to me that one day a 380 could depart, and then while it is returning the following day, a 747 could depart, and vis versa... In the course of 48 hours the capacity issue would average out, would it not? If need be, the 747 could be reconfigured with a larger first and business class than normal for that type, so that the premium passengers would not have to be effected much at all as far as capacity were concerned.

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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:31 am

Are any A.netters planning to be on the SIN-LHR Singapore Airlines A380 very first flight?  Smile
I am thinking of going to Singapore with any old plane and come back on the first Singapore-Heathrow A380 flight.

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 2):
Singapore Airlines are planning to inaugurate services to London Heathrow with the Airbus A380 featuring the revoltionary new products at the end of March. I think this implies 15 - 31 March 2008.

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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:49 am



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):

Why do you need to be part of the First Airbus 380 flight from SIN - LHR.
You were already on the Worlds First Airbus 380.

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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:11 am



Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 2):
Singapore Airlines

Surely you mean Singapore Airlines Ltd. - A member of Star Alliance, right?

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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:37 am

Indeed. Though with a capitalised 'M' for Member.
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:56 pm



Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 9):
It seems to me that one day a 380 could depart, and then while it is returning the following day, a 747 could depart, and vis versa... In the course of 48 hours the capacity issue would average out, would it not? If need be, the 747 could be reconfigured with a larger first and business class than normal for that type, so that the premium passengers would not have to be effected much at all as far as capacity were concerned

There would be a problem as there is a surcharge on the new premium products on the A380
 
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:04 pm



Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 9):
Is it not possible for a 380 and a 747 or two to cover a route? As long as there are computers assisting with the reservations, the airline should know which A/C will be on a particular flight months in advance.

Trivial.

Quoting Amciver (Reply 14):

There would be a problem as there is a surcharge on the new premium products on the A380

That would be the issue. On Say Monday, Thursday, and Saturday 1st would cost 120%* more than the rest of the week. That's the issue. customer consistency. It would be best to fly A380 and only A380 (or load in 77W's with A380 seats in the off season). Trying to swap two distinct products... gets tough. Its ok to have one flight (say the early flight) 'premium' and the later flight 'economy,' but there needs to be an easy to understand line of demarcation for the customer.

Kudos to SQ. Let's get those A380's into service! Now for the 1st GP7200's....  Wink

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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:58 am



Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 6):
So I guess what we need to know is when will the 3rd A380 join the SQ fleet?

I suppose they will be using their 2nd on regional routes or also on SYD and then when the 3rd one arrives, start daily LHR service using the A380 at the start of the airline Summer season, and having connecting daily SYD service at SIN

I agree regarding the regional service - my money's on SIN-HGK-SIN, which will eventually be extended to SIN-HGK-SFO. SQ needs to be conservative while they are gaining experience with the A380, and HKG seems a likely market for the premium customers they need to draw to make the experiment worthwhile. It would be foolish to withdraw SYD for another two-plane capable route since (a) LHR-SIN-SYD and v.v. has been SQ's premier target and (b) they need to keep the pressure on QF.

Admittedly, here's a bit of armchair CEO-ing, but I've laid out a possible LHR deployment plan in reply 53 of this thread.
 
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:13 am



Quoting MakeMinesLAX (Reply 16):
I agree regarding the regional service - my money's on SIN-HGK-SIN, which will eventually be extended to SIN-HGK-SFO. SQ needs to be conservative while they are gaining experience with the A380, and HKG seems a likely market for the premium customers they need to draw to make the experiment worthwhile. It would be foolish to withdraw SYD for another two-plane capable route since (a) LHR-SIN-SYD and v.v. has been SQ's premier target and (b) they need to keep the pressure on QF.

Admittedly, here's a bit of armchair CEO-ing, but I've laid out a possible LHR deployment plan in reply 53 of this thread.

I actually think this was discussed, mentioned already at some point not too long ago either on here or in the press (my memory is foggy though). Wouldn't surprise me as the 773ER goes to HKG as well so the A380 would make sense. Then HKG will get just about every SIA aircraft besides the A345.  Smile
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RE: SQ 380 Schedule To LHR

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:17 am



Quoting Gemuser (Reply 3):
SQ cannot run a daily SIN-LHR schedule with only two aircraft, unless it were to drop SIN-SYD, which I think unlikely, especially in JAN.

I think according to the current delivery schedule they'll have three A380s in March.