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Continental 777

Sat Aug 26, 2000 2:43 am

Hello,

Could anyone provide me some information about the Continental 777-200ER please?

When were they ordered? What order was it?
What routes have they ever operated?
How many crews have been trained?
What routes are they due to operate? I have heard of EWR-HKG or something like that  

If there were some date and exact figures, that would be wonderfull!

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RE: Continental 777

Sat Aug 26, 2000 2:53 am

Continental ordered the 777 in 1993, as part of a 100 aircraft order from Boeing that included 50 or so 737-500's and 35 757's. This was part of the first order for new planes from Continental since its second emergence from bankruptcy in 1993.

Continental originally ordered something like 11 777's and then increased it to 14, then leased two more. Today, there are 16 in service. Here are the routes flown:

Newark to Rome, Paris, London/Gatwick, Manchester, Frankfurt, Madrid, Milan, Tel Aviv, and Tokyo, Japan. For the London, Paris, and Rome flights, only one of the flights to each city operates with a 777. The second daily Rome flight is flown with a DC10, and this additional flight will be discontinued in a month as it is seasonal. A DC10 is used on one of two Paris and London flights. Both will soon be replaced with a 764. Both Tel Aviv flights operate with the 777.

From Houston, the 777 operates both Gatwick flights, the CDG flight, and the Tokyo/Narita service.

Continental's 777's are GE powered. They seat 54 BusinessFirst and 245 in the Economy section. Layout is 2-2-2 in BusinessFirst, and 3-3-3 in Economy. The planes are concentrated at Newark. The first 777 was delivered in November 1998 and the first international route for the 777 on Continental was Newark to Tokyo. The very first revenue CO 777 operated LAX-IAH-EWR.

777's are also used on one or two flights between IAH and EWR and sometimes from LAX to IAH.

Speculation has mounted that CO will order additional triple 7's.

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RE: Continental 777

Sat Aug 26, 2000 2:56 am

All CO 777's have PTV's in Economy. They are larger than those on other airlines. CO's 777 are fantastic. Much better in Economy than either AA or
UA as these airlines use a 2-5-2 Economy cabin layout.

Delta is the other US perator of the 777.

The 777 is the flagship of the CO fleet.
 
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GE90-94B?

Sat Aug 26, 2000 3:07 am

Hello,

Could they opt for the GE90-94B?

So far, only Air France has ordered the GE90-94B for its next 777-228ERs to come.

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RE: Continental 777

Sat Aug 26, 2000 3:23 am

CAL also flies the 777 from Newark to Honolulu and from Houston to Honolulu.
 
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RE: Continental 777

Sat Aug 26, 2000 3:27 am

Airborne,

They don't. Both the EWR-HNL and IAH-HNL segments are effected with the
McDonnell Douglas DC10-30, ever since the routes were launched. The 777
does not operate on these routes. Eventually the DC10's will leave the fleet
and I expect that the 767-400ER will operate to Hawaii for CO.

ContinentalEWR
 
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RE: Continental 777

Sat Aug 26, 2000 6:15 am

Just to clarify, CO has ordered 14 777-200ERs in total. All have the standard (for the -200ER) GE90-90B. In addition, 2 extra -200ERs (also with the -90Bs) are being leased from ILFC.

Alain,

As all aircraft have been delivered, it is doubtful that they would reequip them with the -94Bs.

Finally, it has been rumoured that CO will order 5 + 10 777-200LRs for Trans-Pacific operations. ContinentalEWR, can you confirm/deny this, or give us a little more info?

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RE: Continental 777

Sat Aug 26, 2000 10:24 am

Yes, CO will get more 777's. They must. Where else are the 777's going to come from to do that EWR-HKG nonstop? I went to their website and saw that no 777's are being yanked from their current routes in order to fly the HKG nonstops. According to their site, none of the two TLV flights will be converted to a 767 as someone once suggested either.
 
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RE: Continental 777

Sat Aug 26, 2000 11:04 am

I believe CO has no choice but to acquire more 777's
(anywhere from 3-5) in order to develop market share
and routes in the lucrative US mainland to Asia region.
Currently, there are 16 777's operating, all committed
to Europe, Tokyo, and Tel Aviv. It is possible for CO
to switch from a 777 to a 767-400ER on the EWR to
MAD route, without too much pain. I am surprised to
see this route served with a 777 but then again, from
EWR, there is no other airline operating scheduled
flights to Spain.

The additional 777's could come from a brand new
order (Continental has the money), they could also
opt for leases through ILFC or GE Capital, or they
could convert some 767-400ER options* to 777's,
given their cozy relationship with Boeing. The 777
series 200LR or perhaps the 777-300LR??

*In this month's issue of the Continental magazine,
Gordon Bethune writes about the arrival of the 767
series -400 and the -200's and mentions that there
are options on further -400's. This could be a way
to acquire additional 777's.

I believe CO will want to develop a Houston to
Osaka route, as well as Seoul from either EWR
or IAH. Furthermore, if CO does plan on adding
routes to India, it will need those 777's, unless
it gets a fifth freedom right from a European
city and operates 767's from, say Paris or LGW
or Frankfurt. The latter is less likely.

ContinentalEWR

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