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A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:48 am

Hey Everyone,

Came across this video and thought I would share it with everyone. My first impressions is that this was quite dangerous! Just look at how close this A310's wing gets to the ground in the first 20 seconds of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYfhC9ft_hk&feature=related

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:54 am

I didnt even check the link but im betting it was the TAP air portugal video at an airshow where the left wing barely misses the ground (by about 20-50 ft) .
Definitley ballsy! ....but amazing nonetheless. It was more fun to watch that than a flyby 250 feet agl.
I cant tell if the plane was supposed to turn so low tho.
 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:33 am

The vids from this guy are even better.  Wink

http://www.youtube.com/user/PedroMonteirOliveira
 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:21 am

Yeah I've seen this video from the other side of the runway. From this angle it looks like it's about to crash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dK5VOhKk8s
 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:49 am

yes I think he came way too close and the pilots probably had a lecture from their chief about this.
It reminded me of footage of this B-52 pilot who always wanted to show off too much coming too close to the ground at Flyby's, until he crashed someday.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:02 am

I wonder whether that pilot still has his job? Can anyone give estimate on how fast he might have been during the gear-up fly-by?
 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:24 am

Hi!

Quoting PADSpot (Reply 5):
I wonder whether that pilot still has his job?

He almost lost is job with this display...but he begged TP not to fire him, and then, has a punishment he's going to be forced to fly one of the Airbus A310-300's that TP is phasing-out, CS-TEW, from LIS to YUL, on the 2nd. December to Air Transat! But don't worry, he'll not repeat this display in YUL on arrival!!!
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:57 am

Didn't we discuss this to death a while back?

CV990, almost lost his job? What happened to the "patriotic support" a lot of our Portuguese members wrote here? And the claims that TAP was proud of his display? Was it there or never there? Coz it's a surprise to suddenly read he almost lost his job...

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:06 am

Hi!

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 7):
CV990, almost lost his job? What happened to the "patriotic support" a lot of our Portuguese members wrote here? And the claims that TAP was proud of his display? Was it there or never there? Coz it's a surprise to suddenly read he almost lost his job...

Does the word "sarcastic" means something to you??? I thought you were smarter than that!!!
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:19 am



Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 7):
Didn't we discuss this to death a while back?

Yep.  Sad

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 7):

CV990, almost lost his job? What happened to the "patriotic support" a lot of our Portuguese members wrote here?

Did not see that from me.  Wink

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 7):
And the claims that TAP was proud of his display?

They did? don't remember that.

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 7):
Was it there or never there? Coz it's a surprise to suddenly read he almost lost his job...

He is being sarcastic, but If I was Mr Fernando Pinto or even the Minister of Transport, he would be fired by now. No matter how good of a pilot he is, he should have never risked the lives of others trying to show off.

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:35 am

"he should have never risked the lives of others trying to show off."

AirSHOW ..... That's the whole point of an airshow. To show off what you got. I don't think it was intentional. No pilot wants to lose his life over 3 minutes of fame. Now Street racing is a different story! Big grin
 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:51 am

Hi!

Quoting WINGS (Reply 9):
but If I was Mr Fernando Pinto or even the Minister of Transport, he would be fired by now.

I remember in the beginning of TAP, the mentor and responsible for the birth of TAP, General Humberto Delgado, wanted to do the same to a TAP pilot, but in the end he had to back up. Another thing is the fact that Fernando Pinto is a pilot itself and he comes from a family of civil aviation pilots, some of them flew many year for VARIG.
The 2nd. accident that TAP had, on the 8th. June 1948, with a C-47, CS-TDF, was in a test flight commanded by Capt. Maia de Loureiro and during the simulation of failure on one of the engines the plane crashed. Thank God no one died, but it was concluded that the procedures were not the best and right ones for that type of simulation. Was Cap. Maia de Loureiro fired? Of course not! But maybe in the eyes of people here he should have, right? In the end he retired many years latter with the 747.
I'm much more concerned about airlines that have a lack of overall safety, like pilots that fly drunk, crews that are drunk too, airplanes that have a poor maintenance record, airlines that throw back safety issues! It passed 30 years since TAP had the first and last fatal accident with the crash of the Boeing 727-282 Adv. CS-TBR, it was a hard but big lesson for TAP. Now after more than 60 years flying I find that TAP is one of the safest airlines in the world! That's why, once in a while I like to be sarcastic...I have that right no?
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:56 am



Quoting CV990 (Reply 11):
I'm much more concerned about airlines that have a lack of overall safety, like pilots that fly drunk, crews that are drunk too, airplanes that have a poor maintenance record, airlines that throw back safety issues! It passed 30 years since TAP had the first and last fatal accident with the crash of the Boeing 727-282 Adv. CS-TBR, it was a hard but big lesson for TAP. Now after more than 60 years flying I find that TAP is one of the safest airlines in the world! That's why, once in a while I like to be sarcastic...I have that right no?
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Yet he risked it all just to show off. I'm Sorry CV990, we do not share the same view. I still consider the stunt to be reckless and unnecessary.

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:08 am

Hi!

Quoting WINGS (Reply 12):
Yet he risked it all just to show off. I'm Sorry CV990, we do not share the same view. I still consider the stunt to be reckless and unnecessary.

I respect your point, but I expect you to respect mine too! Fare enough!
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:43 am



Quoting CV990 (Reply 13):

I respect your point, but I expect you to respect mine too! Fare enough!
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That's correct CV990, I respect your view, but unfortunately do not agree with it.  Smile

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:52 am

I don't have a comment on whether or not its dangerous (looks it, but it all depends on how well in control the pilot was at the time), but I just have to say -

Damn, TAP colours look fine on the A310!
 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:10 pm

If that was my multimillion dollar plane he was screwing around with I would have fired him.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:18 pm

FlyBy flights are nothing more than "legalized" show-offs. Did he actually lose control or something? I don't think so, it looked amazing. That pilot deserves some recognition for his skills, no doubt.

Quoting Moo (Reply 15):
Damn, TAP colours look fine on the A310!

Their best livery so far.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:20 pm

Hi1

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 16):
If that was my multimillion dollar plane he was screwing around with I would have fired him

Yeah, the real fact is that plane is not yours, so.....this getting quite "deja vu" for me, so I think it's time for me to "cruise around" in other topics that look much better than this one! Bye....I gave contributions to this one more than I expected, it's getting boring here!
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:35 pm

It was an Air Show. Would all of you preferred he cruised by at FL350 at .82M? I think it is fantastic. Balls out display of airmanship.

This is the kind of guy you want flying your airplane, like the DHL pilot that landed the A300 that got hit with a MANPAD a few years back.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:55 pm

the A310 looks llike such a non agile plane, its great to see this, and what a great pilot!
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:35 pm

You see, I loved that. How great would it have been to be a pax on that plane and see the ground that close? Amazing.

I'd like to see that gear up fly-by with an A340, or even the 787, but sadly, I think the odds are slightly against it.

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:33 pm

I am a little biased. I enjoy a dramatic video and I enjoy spectacular displays. And the whole point of an air show is to be spectacular.

But pilots getting out of bounds just to show off, isn't that something belonging to the past (good or bad). Haven't we had enough air show disasters?

To me the problem lies in if the pilot did this without approval. The whole point of having regulations is to get some margins and not leave it to one or few persons to decide what's ok or not for themselves. This applies to pilots as well as me taking my car on the highway.

Some time ago here in Sweden we had a fighter pilot doing a little private display for friends and family. Problem was he got too low and had to recover, burning several people with the hot exhaust when pulling up. Safe to say his friends were not too impressed. It could have gone worse though.

A side note, not related to this particular video, but it gets me thinking: I think we will see some rather dreadful effects of internet exposing a steadily increasing stream of videos showing all kinds of risky stunts being pulled off. We will get blunted, craving only more and more spectacular things to get amused. Not to mention people that really shouldn't get an audience will get loads of attention.

Never the less, I spend a significant time watching all kinds of stuff, So who am I to judge others. But I can speak for myself at least.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:48 pm

Seems OK to me , as he was just practising a 31L departure at JFK

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:28 pm

The 1st pass seemed too low.The wing tip was near the ground.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:21 pm

Was there any crosswind?
 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:33 pm



Quoting WINGS (Reply 12):
I still consider the stunt to be reckless and unnecessary.

How do you feel about the Thunderbirds, Blue Angels, Snowbirds, et al flying inches from each other during formation rolls at airshows?

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:43 pm



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 26):
Quoting WINGS (Reply 12):
I still consider the stunt to be reckless and unnecessary.

How do you feel about the Thunderbirds, Blue Angels, Snowbirds, et al flying inches from each other during formation rolls at airshows?

They are fighter aircraft that are designed to preform in such a manner. The airbus is just that, a flying bus, it is not designed for acrobatics or precision flying.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:46 pm



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 26):
How do you feel about the Thunderbirds, Blue Angels, Snowbirds, et al flying inches from each other during formation rolls at airshows?

Even though it is admitely dangerous, it is still something they train for and I guess they have regulations preventing them from flying over crowds (was not that a result of Ramstein?) and similar. In other words, it is still approved and regulated. At least until another crash reveals further risks...

I guess, if one of the pilots decided to freelance a little during the routine it would be considered equally hazardous and unacceptable, if not more.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:47 pm



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 27):
They are fighter aircraft that are designed to preform in such a manner. The airbus is just that, a flying bus, it is not designed for acrobatics or precision flying.

In both cases, an inadvertent yoke movement of just a couple of millimeters could easily and very realistically result in a very nasty crash.

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:50 pm



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 4):
yes I think he came way too close and the pilots probably had a lecture from their chief about this.

I heard that the pilot had his license suspended for quite a while by the authorities not long after they saw this clip.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:53 pm



Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 4):
yes I think he came way too close and the pilots probably had a lecture from their chief about this.

I heard that the pilot had his license suspended for quite a while by the authorities not long after they saw this clip.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:01 pm



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 29):
In both cases, an inadvertent yoke movement of just a couple of millimeters could easily and very realistically result in a very nasty crash.

Yes, but the airshow teams practice and perform their manuvers hundreds of times, drilling every single action over and over again.

If this pilot practiced that manuver hundreds of times I would feel better about his performance, but he didn't. He didn't know his manuver as evidenced by the rater obvious side slip and correction when he starts his turn.
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Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:13 pm

 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:21 pm

Irregardless of what everyone says, what's done is done. The A310 made that pass low and fast, and we got some sweet video to oogle over. Now if I could just find a video of a 747 doing the same thing...
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:33 pm

If we're all honest, I bet there's not a guy on here, from commercial pilot to janitor, who wouldn't love to perform that manouvre......if we could get away with it.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:55 pm



Quoting MDorBust (Reply 32):

Excellent point!

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:05 pm

I have expressed my opinion on the other thread.

Yet he risked it all just to show off. I'm Sorry CV990, we do not share the same view. I still consider the stunt to be reckless and unnecessary.

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Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 16):
If that was my multimillion dollar plane he was screwing around with I would have fired him

Yeah, the real fact is that plane is not yours,

wonder what insurance companies say when they see this, maybe they should manifold the premium sums for such "show off" airlines. Maybe CV990 should contribute his savings.

But pilots getting out of bounds just to show off, isn't that something belonging to the past (good or bad). Haven't we had enough air show disasters?

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Even though it is admitely dangerous, it is still something they train for and I guess they have regulations preventing them from flying over crowds (was not that a result of Ramstein?)

Airline pilots do not train for that. When they train, they do it in SIMs. What they showed off, cannot realistically be trained on SIMs. And I guess, the management of TAP did not spend the shareholders money to train this crew in the aircraft.

In both cases, an inadvertent yoke movement of just a couple of millimeters could easily and very realistically result in a very nasty crash.

A little hick-up of the engine on the lower wing would suffice!

I heard that the pilot had his license suspended for quite a while by the authorities not long after they saw this clip.

As I can see, CV990 knows everything and a little more about TAP. But I guess he will not share his knowledge about this issue?

Seems OK to me , as he was just practising a 31L departure at JFK

A reason to ban any pilots, any airlines from ANY airports for turning that low in airline operations. There are rules for starting turns, and the rules have reason. SAFETY. Maybe not so important for some enthusiasts here.
 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:13 pm

Sorry for my last posting not differentiating the quotings.

Not enough experience here.

Quoting MYT321 (Reply 35):
If we're all honest, I bet there's not a guy on here, from commercial pilot to janitor, who wouldn't love to perform that manouvre......

I would like to see all potential candidates be excluded from a professional career.
 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:38 pm



Quoting EarlyNFF (Reply 38):
I would like to see all potential candidates be excluded from a professional career.

Dreaming about performing such a maneuver is one thing. Acting on it is quite another.

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:23 am



Quoting SBBRTech (Reply 17):
FlyBy flights are nothing more than "legalized" show-offs. Did he actually lose control or something? I don't think so, it looked amazing. That pilot deserves some recognition for his skills, no doubt.

skills yes. judgment no.

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 19):
This is the kind of guy you want flying your airplane, like the DHL pilot that landed the A300 that got hit with a MANPAD a few years back.

Absolutely not. I want my pilots to understand the word "discretion." My father flew P-51's, F-84's, etc., and then flew the line for UA to almost 30 years. He's never do that in a 727, or at least not near a bunch of people.

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 26):
How do you feel about the Thunderbirds, Blue Angels, Snowbirds, et al flying inches from each other during formation rolls at airshows?

there's a key difference. Blue Angels pilot rehearse this over uncrowded areas and do it all day long, all year long. This guy, while admittedly a good pilot from a flying skill perspective, doesn't practice this day in, day out. It's his one moment of glory.

Quoting Moriarty (Reply 28):
Even though it is admitely dangerous, it is still something they train for and I guess they have regulations preventing them from flying over crowds (was not that a result of Ramstein?) and similar. In other words, it is still approved and regulated. At least until another crash reveals further risks...

Train for? Hotdogging an A310? OK folks, today we'lll begin our airshow training with our multi-million dollar aircraft. Be sure to get that wing really close to the ground, ok? Yeah right.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 32):
If this pilot practiced that manuver hundreds of times I would feel better about his performance, but he didn't. He didn't know his manuver as evidenced by the rater obvious side slip and correction when he starts his turn.

What is he supposed to do? Ask to take an A310 out for while? Get real. This wasn't rehearsed.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:17 am

Looks like a WN taxi to me....... Vref +80


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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:11 am

It was an airshow for goodness sake and I trust pilots of airliners not to drive them into the ground even at airshows.
For those who lived in the UK at the height of Concorde PR flights by BA trust me you would have thought they where all ex RAF fighter pilots. It was magnificent fun it was what all airshows are about a flying envelope not normally allowed in revenue service.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:22 am



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 3):
Yeah I've seen this video from the other side of the runway. From this angle it looks like it's about to crash:

You're right about that. About made me lose my lunch when i watched it.

holy jesus.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:30 am



Quoting Okie (Reply 41):
Train for? Hotdogging an A310? OK folks, today we'lll begin our airshow training with our multi-million dollar aircraft. Be sure to get that wing really close to the ground, ok? Yeah right.

You got me wrong. I was not referring to the airliner pilot. Sure display must teams practice a lot. As they do, they can fly closer and still be within some margins that has been set up for the safety of themselves and the crowd.I guess the same goes for airliner display.

My point is, if any, that it is bad if pilots decide to go outside the given margins and rules that apply for the display. And I get the impression that the above mentioned pilot actually did some creative flying that particular day. And that is very bad.

As mentioned by others, if it had been a well practiced display it would not have been the same thing.
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:46 am

I know this topic has gone a little dead, but I showed that video to my dad who flew flight test for UA before flying the line for 20 years.

His thought that perhaps the pilot didn't select full go-around thrust during his go-around and that's why he almost dragged a wing along the ground. He said that's what happened to the only pilot that died in his air force graduating class.

He said that it's deceiving because the aircraft is flying so nicely during descent that it's forget that it takes a lot more power to get it going up again. This was probably even easier to believe for a really light aircraft in this case.

Looking at it again, you can see what he means. The A310 just isn't climbing at all.

Thoughts?
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:09 am

This thread reminds me of the following photo of an Air Zimbabwe 707 at an airshow somewhere in Africa, probably in the 1980s.

 
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:50 am

I would love to have seen the FOQUA data on that one and how far the examiners eyes bugged out when he saw it! I was also surprised that the wingtip vortices didn't flip the ultralights parked along the runway. Maybe they were tied down, no way to tell from the video.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 4):
yes I think he came way too close and the pilots probably had a lecture from their chief about this.

At what level can you commence a go around?

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 27):
The airbus is just that, a flying bus, it is not designed for acrobatics or precision flying.

And it wasn't doing either, in either of the clips.

Quoting MrPorter (Reply 30):
I heard that the pilot had his license suspended for quite a while by the authorities not long after they saw this clip.

What did he do wrong? He didn't appear to be flying over 250kts. The plane was in control at all times. Other than making a turn a little low I didn't see anything that would violate his license.

Quoting Birdbrainz (Reply 45):
Looking at it again, you can see what he means. The A310 just isn't climbing at all.

I noticed that as well and wondered if the pilot was purposely holding the nose down through the turn?
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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:01 am



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 47):
Other than making a turn a little low I didn't see anything that would violate his license.

91.13....operating in a careless or reckless manner.... will get you every time.

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RE: A310 Dangerous FlyBy (video)

Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:36 am



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 48):
91.13....operating in a careless or reckless manner.... will get you every time.

I don't really see anything careless or reckless there. The turn is coordinated, the angle of bank does not appear to be excessive, he doesn't honk back on the stick to try and zoom up up and away. It's just a high speed fly by. The radar altimeter would have been enunciating his height above the runway. As long as he doesn't go below the level where the engines are going to make contact I don't see the problem. There are plenty of pictures in the database of planes landing at various airports that are being operated a lot more carelessly and recklessly than this guy is operating.
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