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DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:37 pm

I have to admit that I was skeptical of the new DL livery when I first saw it but, it's slowly starting to grow on me. I saw my first MD-80 in the new colors yesterday at BOS and I have to say it looked great. Thus far I think my favorite plane in the new colors are the CRJ-900s. The livery is definitely a little boring but, it isn't offensive either. Any opinions?
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:37 pm



Quoting AviationAddict (Thread starter):
Any opinions?

Any picture?
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:38 pm



Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 1):

No, sorry. I was working and didn't have my camera.
 
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Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:43 pm

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:55 pm

I´ve never liked any of Delta´s liveries. The new one is no exception. And the MD80 is particularly boring. Its a white jet with a painted tail and a little dark paint at the belly - so what?
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:07 pm

I'm not syaing I don't like DL's scheme, but compared to the other majors it does pale in comparison given the fact that it is 95% white.

UA, AA, US and NW have all gor somewhat nice schemes, AA and (both pre and post 9/11) UA are my favourites in the USA.
CO is quite like DL except for some reason it is a little bit more interesting.

C'mon DL- Add some swirls or a cheatline or something to the fuselage!!

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:10 pm

Its very boring, thats for sure. My opinion is that they shouldn't have changed the livery on any of their planes. The last livery was very beautiful in my opinion.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:14 pm



Quoting NA (Reply 4):



Quoting AA1818 (Reply 5):



Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 6):

Start your own anti-DL thread then.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:17 pm

How taste differs, to me this new look is the best livery DL have ever carried.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:22 pm

For me the previous livery was the most beautiful, but I'm starting to like this new one more and more. At first it looked horrible, but there's just something sexy in the widget on the tail of the MadDog.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:24 pm



Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
How taste differs, to me this new look is the best livery DL have ever carried.

I totally agree with you, 777way.

Among all other major airliner, DL´s latest livery is the most beautiful, in my opinion. I wonder when AA is changing its own livery. That silver with red and blue stripes became too old.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:24 pm

I'm no fan of Eurowhite either, but so f'n what, the new colors are more practical than the old ones. Compared to the Deltaflot, this livery only needs 4 colors instead of 8, takes one day less to be applied and thus reduces out-of-service time by 20%, and it weighs less, thus also reducing fuel burn. So in the end, as bland as it is, it saves DL some serious money.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:04 pm

I miss the original Widget...

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:08 pm

I think the new scheme is stylish but, you can barely see any of the blue on the belly so from a distance it basically looks like the scheme it just replaced but with a different tail.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:08 pm

While the new scheme certainly isn't ugly; it is a bit on the bland side except for the tail.

Personally, the basic layout looks way too similar to what US rolled out 2 years ago (except for the blue engine cowlings on the US planes). It's almost as if someone over at DL raided Doug Parker's briefcase back when US was trying to take over DL a few months ago.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:41 pm

I also saw the MD80 in new colors for the first time the other day in ATL. One thing I noticed is the ugly color change from beige to white at the bottom of the fuselage. With that said, it definately looks much cleaner and sharper than the old livery. Fits the aircraft well.

I think there were so many complaints about the new livery because it was being anticipated for months and everyone was waiting for something great. Then they saw it and didn't like it. But now, people seem to be warming up to it.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:55 pm



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 15):
One thing I noticed is the ugly color change from beige to white at the bottom of the fuselage.

Sure that wasn't the lighting or something? I've stood right next to it on the ground and can tell you it's pure white up until the blue part.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:00 pm



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 15):
One thing I noticed is the ugly color change from beige to white at the bottom of the fuselage.

There isn't an ounce of beige paint anywhere. You obviously were seeing things.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:02 pm



Quoting Jmbarros12 (Reply 10):
I wonder when AA is changing its own livery. That silver with red and blue stripes became too old.

Right around the time that NW retires the last of the DC-9 fleet.....

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:50 pm

N908DL has been in the new livery for a few months already, nothing new.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:52 pm

A nice fine cheat line would set if off even better!
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:00 pm

I love it. They should bring the black belly up a bit though!
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:06 pm

A lot of people have criticized the updated widget colouring, but I think it is a simple modern take on the traditional widget. That being said, I still think the new widget placed upright on the tail (as in the 60's to 80's paintscheme), would be a better interpretation. "Negative Space" logos are far too in vogue.

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:40 pm



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 17):
There isn't an ounce of beige paint anywhere. You obviously were seeing things.

Obviously? Good God way to exaggerate. Take a look at this photo.


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If you don't see a difference in tones starting in the middle of the fuselage you must be color blind. By no means is it beige. I couldn't think of a better word, I thought just about anyone could interperet what I was saying. I guess not.  Yeah sure
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:51 pm



Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 6):
Its very boring, thats for sure. My opinion is that they shouldn't have changed the livery on any of their planes. The last livery was very beautiful in my opinion.

Cargo planes have more exciting paint jobs. DELTA letters look like they were typed on, too much space between them. My 10 year old could have come up with a better livery. As not my favorite livery, the last one was much better.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:08 pm

It's a clean look, but rather dull livery in my opinion. I hope they don't paint too many before Andersen sells the outfit to some other carrier.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:24 pm



Quoting Lat41 (Reply 20):
A nice fine cheat line would set if off even better!

It needs just that like you suggest. The current livery is what we know as "Euro-white". Not a big fan of this.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:15 am

Just out of curiosity. It seems like Delta has really slowed down there painting as of late when the common belief was they would up it in the winter when peak traffic tapers. Am I just way off, or has this occurred?
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:26 am



Quoting Lrdc9 (Reply 21):
They should bring the black belly up a bit though!

It's blue. But I agree!

Quoting Micstatic (Reply 34):
Just out of curiosity. It seems like Delta has really slowed down there painting as of late when the common belief was they would up it in the winter when peak traffic tapers. Am I just way off, or has this occurred?

I've noticed this too. I think it's the opposite though. There is a lot of extra flights during the holidays. But I guess we'll just have to sit and wait.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:53 am



Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 6):
Its very boring, thats for sure. My opinion is that they shouldn't have changed the livery on any of their planes. The last livery was very beautiful in my opinion.

I agree 100%. If it ain't broken, don't fix it!

At this time, Delta has way too many different liveries: They still have the one with the dark blue cheat line, the wavy gravy (which in my opinion looked terrific), the psychedelic and asymmetric Song paint scheme and now the boring CITGO livery! Does anybody know if Delta still has any aircraft that are still painted in that conservative livery (the one with the widget on the tail) that they had for about 30 years? I wouldn't be surprised if they still do. I remember still seeing some a couple of years ago.

I do admit that Delta does have a few aircraft with special paint schemes (like the pink 757) that look quite good. However, their new livery is by far the most boring of all the major airlines in the United States. I wish Braniff would come back to life and put an end to the plain plane again!!!
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:57 am



Quoting GeorgeJetson (Reply 36):
Does anybody know if Delta still has any aircraft that are still painted in that conservative livery (the one with the widget on the tail) that they had for about 30 years?

No, they don't. Please see the link in my profile.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:04 am



Quoting Lat41 (Reply 20):
A nice fine cheat line would set if off even better!

Although at one time about 99% of all passenger aircraft had cheat lines, nowadays it's the total opposite and hardly any airlines paint cheat lines on their planes anymore. That style is pretty much obsolete now hand has been replaced by Euro white fuselages (for the most part at least). It seems like Delta was one of the last major airlines with cheat lines and that was two paint jobs ago.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:05 am

DL Livery question:

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...but does any photo exist that shows FOUR Delta liveries in the same shot?

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:12 am

I know Delta did some shifting around of its liveries for a while.

I finally like this one. I remember when they went to the first one one from the old 80's livery. People were wishing it would change. They learned to be careful what they wished for. But this new one is nice. It's a bit on the white side, but at least it does have some color in it. I like two-tone color schemes like that. And the tail is MUCH better than the French flag or whatever it was Delta had on the tail.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:20 am



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 15):
I also saw the MD80 in new colors for the first time the other day in ATL. One thing I noticed is the ugly color change from beige to white at the bottom of the fuselage. With that said, it definately looks much cleaner and sharper than the old livery. Fits the aircraft well.

Although there is something at the bottom of the fuselage near the front of the aircraft that looks beige, it is pure white, not beige. It is probably a shadow, or a reflection from some kind of lighting condition, or possibly but not very likely some dirt or oil that got in there.

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:26 am



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 28):
ALL MD-80s, DC-9s, and MD-90s have that indentation on the fuselage.

All DC-8s and 717s have that indentation, too. It must be a Douglas "trademark".
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:31 am



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 37):
Quoting GeorgeJetson (Reply 36):
Does anybody know if Delta still has any aircraft that are still painted in that conservative livery (the one with the widget on the tail) that they had for about 30 years?

No, they don't. Please see the link in my profile.

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:34 am

Tail is nice, everything else YAWN!!

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 31):
I don't understand what you're seeing. You said you saw a shade of beige yet there isn't an ounce of beige paint on the aircraft. You need to calibrate your monitor.

maybe I have to calibrate the monitor (or my eyesight) because I still see the US Airways "darth vader" scheme as dull black, not blue. Although I haven't been right next to one of the planes to really tell.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:38 am



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 35):
Quoting Lrdc9 (Reply 21):
They should bring the black belly up a bit though!

It's blue. But I agree!

As Robin might say: Holly optical illusion, there seems to be a lot of colorblind people in this forum! It's definitely [dark] blue.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:39 am



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 39):
...but does any photo exist that shows FOUR Delta liveries in the same shot?

Maybe there's one photo... on or not on Airliners.net
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:47 am



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 39):
...but does any photo exist that shows FOUR Delta liveries in the same shot?

IIRC, I've seen a pic with the old widget, 1997, 2000, and Song colors. I was pretty sure it was on here - but I can't seem to find it.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:47 am

There's not one since this last DL livery came out a year or two after the last plane in the widget c/s was repainted.

However there are photos of the 3 regular mainline liveries plus a Song aircraft.

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:09 am



Quoting Delta7004 (Reply 19):
N908DL has been in the new livery for a few months already, nothing new.

Thanks for your valuable input. If you read my original post you'll notice I said it was the first time I had seen a Mad Dog in the new livery; I never mentioned anything about it being newly painted.
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:23 am



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 7):
Start your own anti-DL thread then.

What's wrong with expressing one's opinion on the DL livery in a thread about the DL livery? I'm sure that if someone posted a thread stating their dislike of the new DL livery, there would be those who chimed in with their opinion expressing that they like it. Would you tell them to go start their own "pro-DL thread?"

I happen to be of the same opinion as Super80DFW. I love the previous livery. I wish they would have put winglets on one of the birds with the Deltaflot scheme (with the winglets having the same paint style as the tail.) The new livery, while slowly growing on me and not all bad, is disappointing compared to the 2000 colors. Simple as that.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:12 am



Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
How taste differs, to me this new look is the best livery DL have ever carried.

Isn't that a lot like saying, "He's the healthiest guy in the Intensive Care unit at the hospital?"  wink 
 
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:48 am

Here's quite a few special Delta liveries.

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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:56 am



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 23):
If you don't see a difference in tones starting in the middle of the fuselage you must be color blind.



Quoting GeorgeJetson (Reply 34):
Although there is something at the bottom of the fuselage near the front of the aircraft that looks beige, it is pure white, not beige. It is probably a shadow, or a reflection from some kind of lighting condition, or possibly but not very likely some dirt or oil that got in there.

It's a reflection of the yellow line painted on the cement beneath the aircraft.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:07 am



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 30):
No, they don't. Please see the link in my profile.

Incorrect. Ship 102, 767-232, "The Spirit of Delta" N102DA, is painted in the "widget" colors. She is preserved at the Delta Air Lines Heritage Museum in Atlanta.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:21 am

For those interested, my shot of N102DA now preserved at Delta's Heritage Museum:



See http://www.deltamuseum.org/ for details.
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RE: DL MD-88 In New Livery, Looks Great

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:25 am



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 48):
For those interested, my shot of N102DA now preserved at Delta's Heritage Museum:

Ahhhh....the way a Delta livery should look....  yes 

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