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US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:25 pm

On a recent trip to Ireland I saw a US Airways 757. Just curious, are their J seats Envoy-style or domestic first class? I cannot find a seat map on usairways.com.
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:07 pm

As of this summer they were fitted with Envoy class
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:16 pm

a few have Envoy Style
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:20 pm

Do a pretend Reservation. When you get to "Build Itinerary", click on Seats, then on "Envoy" to view the Envoy seat availability, or click on "Coach" to view the Economy section.

To get a better view of the seating arrangements (but not availability) go here:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/US_...ys/US_Airways_Boeing_757-200_B.php
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:34 pm

That's a weird setup for a 752. Would hate to be in row 4 ABC or 5 D next to toilet. Why no galley at row 5? Why are lav's mid cabin at row 23 vs. rear like most 752's?
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:43 pm



Quoting FUN2FLY (Reply 4):
That's a weird setup for a 752. Would hate to be in row 4 ABC or 5 D next to toilet. Why no galley at row 5? Why are lav's mid cabin at row 23 vs. rear like most 752's?

Airline choice. TW's 757s were like that as well.
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:43 pm

All the 757s routes to UK are Ireland with 757s were advertised as having Envoy Clkass for this summer.
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:44 pm

All the 757s routes to UK are Ireland with 757s were advertised as having Envoy Class for this summer.
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:39 pm

What are US's long-term plan with the 757? Are they going to eventually replace with A330s? Do they have A330s on order?
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:51 pm

A lot of info on seatguru was false. It says that coach features recliner seats and that all seats feature in seat video.
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:59 pm



Quoting AF022 (Reply 8):
What are US's long-term plan with the 757? Are they going to eventually replace with A330s? Do they have A330s on order?


The 17 332s on order (that are expected to be delivered) and 2 coming in on lease are for expansion with the 350s eventually replacing the 767s. There are also another 10 332s on order that management has said they never expect to be delivered. I believe they will continue to fly the 757 until airbus (or less likely Boeing) produces a true 757 replacement in terms of seats and range.
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:03 am



Quoting AF022 (Reply 8):
What are US's long-term plan with the 757?



Quoting Silentbob (Reply 10):
I believe they will continue to fly the 757 until airbus (or less likely Boeing) produces a true 757 replacement in terms of seats and range.

They're keeping all of the ETOPS 757s in the fleet for the forseeable future, including the ex-USAir birds that just haven't been ETOPSed yet. They're getting rid of the much older ex-Eastern birds.
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:03 am



Quoting Silentbob (Reply 10):
I believe they will continue to fly the 757 until airbus (or less likely Boeing) produces a true 757 replacement in terms of seats and range.

Yes, and that may be 12 to 16 years from now. So some 757s will be staying clean and shiny for many years, as airlines are not yet offered any alternative in the 3000-4000 mile segment. Every airline seems to be identifying their best 757 frames that are best suited to a long future with winglets plying the ocean routes. The newest ones with the least MX problems are making the cut in this 757 beauty contest.
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:10 pm

what a nightmare...crossing the pond in the middle seat of a US 757!
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:01 pm

Is it any easier crossing in the middle seat of a 767 or 777??? The seat width and pitch are the same. All you get extra is head room. Unless you're 8 ft 3 or have a giant noggin, that not going to help you much..... Big grin
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:50 pm



Quoting FUN2FLY (Reply 4):
Why are lav's mid cabin at row 23 vs. rear like most 752's?

CO has this setup on their 753s as well... not sure about the 752s
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:57 pm



Quoting Mcamargo (Reply 15):
not sure about the 752s

The lavs on our 752s are one at 2L and two behind row 34. B/F has one just behind the cockpit, forward of 1L.
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:34 pm



Quoting Caljn (Reply 13):
what a nightmare...crossing the pond in the middle seat of a US 757!



Quoting Clipper136 (Reply 14):
Is it any easier crossing in the middle seat of a 767 or 777?

I would much rather take a 767 over the pond over a 757 anyday simply because the ratio of middle seats to aisle/window seats is much smaller in a 767 i.e. the chances of getting a middle seat is smaller. Plus if you get stuck in one of those middle seats, its in the middle of the cabin and you have a choice to climb out over the person to the right or left of you. In a 757 (or any other narrowbody for that matter) if a "person of size" is sitting in the aisle seat you are pretty much stuck there...
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:15 pm



Quoting PiedmontINT (Reply 17):
I would much rather take a 767 over the pond over a 757 anyday simply because the ratio of middle seats to aisle/window seats is much smaller in a 767 i.e. the chances of getting a middle seat is smaller.

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757 - 2/6 or 33%
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Plus the 767's center seat has more headroom to boot.
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:10 pm



Quoting FUN2FLY (Reply 4):
That's a weird setup for a 752. Would hate to be in row 4 ABC or 5 D next to toilet. Why no galley at row 5? Why are lav's mid cabin at row 23 vs. rear like most 752's?

I have been on a US 757 between CLT and PHL on Monday which had nice looking Envoy class seats in the front and winglets, but definetly no toilet at door 2L as it is depicted at seatguru. I was sitting in 6F (the seat numbered 6E on seatguru), so I would definetly have noticed. They also had a pretty new overhead video system which the crew was not able to get to work as they wished (no sound, meaning they had to do the manual safety demonstration). I connected to a 767 transatlantic flight, having very old envoy class seats and similar old seats even without headrests in Eco. Luckily I had a whole middle row for me on that flight to sleep. Otherwise I would definetly had prefered the 6F seat in the 757 over any eco seat in the 767...
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:21 pm

I flew on the US 752 from DUB to PHL back in the summer and I have to say the flight was fine on the way out. The aircraft was updated and the economy seats were leather and I think the new envoy seats were installed. On the flight home, it was a different experience, very uncomfortable old seats and constant bumping into seats by the stewardesses during the flight. The Envoy class seats were the old ones so I think it's 50/50 on what you get.
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:46 pm



Quoting FUN2FLY (Reply 4):
Why are lav's mid cabin at row 23 vs. rear like most 752's?

It depends on the 757, and the older 1980s 757s tend to have them there. These have no overwing exits and instead have larger emergency exits behind the wings, and lavs are put in this area. Newer 757s, those from the 1990s and 2000s, usually have overwing exits instead and lavs at the back. I know it was eventually an option for airlines to choose from, with the overwing option having a higher capacity. Northwest, for instance, has its 1980s 757s with the door exits and mid-cabin lavs, while their post-1995 757s have the overwing exits and rear lavs.

Quoting Mcamargo (Reply 15):
CO has this setup on their 753s as well

All 753s are like this in general, as 753s have a combination of both overwing exits and the door emergency exits as a part of the cabin stretch. This isn't just a CO thing.
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:46 pm

One of my friends just posted pictures on his Myspace of the first US 757 to be retrofitted with the new interior. N910AW looks incredible! All leather in F and Y and everything brand new. I can't wait for the rest of the 757s to be overhauled the same way.
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:04 am



Quoting HPRamper (Reply 22):
ne of my friends just posted pictures on his Myspace of the first US 757 to be retrofitted with the new interior.

I am dying to see this, as I have been so busy I haven't gotten a chance to get out and non-rev around. Any way you can get the photos up here?
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:07 am



Quoting Whappeh (Reply 23):
Any way you can get the photos up here?

I'll ask him for his permission, I'd love to post the pics.
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:21 pm

Couple of comments to add. The 757 Envoy seats are seats that where removed from the A-330 second, two row Envoy cabin that was converted to more Y seats. And I think what happened with EI350's trip the flight on the way out was an ex ATA bird (ships 203-205) which have an all Leather coach cabin, On the way back he was probably on one of the Original US birds (ships 200-202 and 206) which have the grey cloth normal US 757 coach seats. These will however be converted to Leather and other improvements in the near future.

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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:42 pm



Quoting HPRamper (Reply 24):
I'll ask him for his permission, I'd love to post the pics.

HP, so is that for an ex-America West 757 that's doing Hawaii ops, or what? Is US going to do the whole domestic 757 fleet? What config? Thanks
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:09 pm



Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 21):
Quoting FUN2FLY (Reply 4):
Why are lav's mid cabin at row 23 vs. rear like most 752's?

It depends on the 757, and the older 1980s 757s tend to have them there. These have no overwing exits and instead have larger emergency exits behind the wings, and lavs are put in this area. Newer 757s, those from the 1990s and 2000s, usually have overwing exits instead and lavs at the back. I know it was eventually an option for airlines to choose from, with the overwing option having a higher capacity. Northwest, for instance, has its 1980s 757s with the door exits and mid-cabin lavs, while their post-1995 757s have the overwing exits and rear lavs.

It's got nothing to do with when the aircraft were manufactured. UA & DL have lots of 757's from the 80's with the 6door/4window option. It was up to the airline who purchased them.

As for me, I prefer the 8 door option. It creates 2 Y cabins, and allows for people to use the lavs by 3L & 3R and not get stuck in the back during times when service carts are in the aisle. It also keeps people from congregating by the back galley waiting to use the lavs.
 
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:01 am



Quoting HPRamper (Reply 22):
One of my friends just posted pictures on his Myspace of the first US 757 to be retrofitted with the new interior. N910AW looks incredible! All leather in F and Y and everything brand new. I can't wait for the rest of the 757s to be overhauled the same way.

There is a special thread about 910AW's new interior on the US forum over at usaviation.com with both First and Coach photo's for anyone who is really curios, based on the photo's IMO WOW, pretty nice looking cabin, pretty surprised.

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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:16 am



Quoting LGA777 (Reply 28):
There is a special thread about 910AW's new interior on the US forum over at usaviation.com with both First and Coach photo's for anyone who is really curios, based on the photo's IMO WOW, pretty nice looking cabin, pretty surprised.

Is it just me, or does it seem that they have almost exactly copied DL's leather seat covers? It looks like the exact same blue, with gray in the F seats.
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RE: US Airways' 757 Transatlantic

Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:15 am



Quoting Flighty (Reply 26):
HP, so is that for an ex-America West 757 that's doing Hawaii ops, or what? Is US going to do the whole domestic 757 fleet?

I believe this to be the case, but I can't be positive. It wouldn't make much sense to only retrofit part of the fleet.

Quoting Delta4eva (Reply 29):
Is it just me, or does it seem that they have almost exactly copied DL's leather seat covers? It looks like the exact same blue, with gray in the F seats.

We have had blue leather on all our newer Airbus deliveries, so I would expect the 757 seats to match those.

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