Correct. 12 firm, 12 options, and probably more 330's leased starting in 2009.
|Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 9):|
I've always wondered why they didn't get some 757-200's to go along with the 767-300's on the mainland-Hawaii routes.
According to our management, the 757 has a higher seat-mile cost than the 767's, and except for a common pilot type rating, there's very little in 'common' between the two types requiring another full set of spares, maintenance tools, etc.
|Quoting Airnerd (Reply 10):|
Even with six 332s in the near term, I'd have to assume they'll be flying at least some of the 763s for quite a while. Their fleet will be more diverse.
Yes we'll keep the 763's for quite a while. The Boeing is a great airplane, but can't be everything to everyone. If we want to fly to mainland Asia, we need something with better range. And some of our routes are so busy we could easily use larger aircraft on them. Being a small company meant it was smart to keep to one fleet type for long-haul. Now that we're bigger (over $1B in sales this year, making us a major) it's time to expand.
|Quoting YULYMX (Reply 16):|
i could see A333, but the A332? range is exceeding there current route? Unless they want to fly To BOS, PHL, EWR, JFK?
I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more of those destinations announced soon.
|Quoting UAL747-600 (Reply 18):|
What is up at BCA and how could they let these guys go Airbus?
It really has more to do with the fact that at the moment Boeing doesn't have anything available that matches our needs as well as Airbus does. I've heard our CEO say that it was more the cost of the engines that drove the decision than the type of airframe since the engine cost (power-by-the-hour leasing) is the most expensive part of the equation. Yes, the 787 will be a great airplane. But as someone above said, it really is a bit too small for our needs now, whereas the 332 fits the bill just right.
|Quoting Avek00 (Reply 20):|
Methinks HA finds the capacity of the 332 (220-250 seats) muc hmore manageable than that of the 333 (roughly 300-seater).
Those capacities are for 3-class setups. Hawaiian has a 2-class operation that increases the seating. Our 763's seat about 260 on average, and the press releases say the 332's will seat 305, and the 358's will seat 322, both in 2-class setups.
I'm lookng forward to this a lot. We've done so much in the past few years to get past the bankruptcy, grow, and become a quality airline. This is going to be fun to participate in!
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