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Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:21 pm

Hi everyone,
I was really looking forward to this months thread but it is sad that we have to start this one with the news of the Atlasjet crash. My heart goes out to the families who have lost loved ones.

-I am happy to let all of you know that this is the first anniversary of Turkish Aviation Threads, just take a look at what we were talking about a year ago: Turkish Aviation Thread Dec.2006 (by TK787 Dec 3 2006 in Civil Aviation)
-Also I see another couple of pics of A380 Turkey visit in the database:

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-I see some new members, Welcome to a.net Tkfan

Any other news, rumors, predictions?
Thanks to all for participating.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:53 pm

All our hearts are with the victims of the AtlasJet crash.. May God be with them and their relatives..
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:22 pm

All deceased shall rest in peace.. Sad
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:51 pm

I don't know how to write it down in English so I do it my way:

kaybetdigimiz vatandaslari allah rahmet eylesin, ailelerine güc ve sabir versin, hepimisin basi sagolsun...

after such sad tragedy it is very difficult to turn to normal life again. hope the inspectors find out the real reason of this crash very soon to clear up everything.
anyhow it is nice to see that nobody after this crash canceled their flights with KK. this shows that the people are aware of the situation and the role of Atlasjet is this tragedy.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:01 am

btw I don't know if this have been discussed before. TK is a 4-star airline now according to Skytrax.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:15 am

Hi Stylo,
Yes the 4* came up several weeks ago. If you remember I raised the question earlier this summer: "What would it take TK to go up to 4 stars?" At the time I was looking at customer ratings at that site, and there were more 4 stars then 3, yet overall TK was rated 3*.
Still I think there is a lot more room to grow within that 4* category. If you look at the group of airlines on that 4* list you will see what I mean.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:57 am



Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-I see some new members, Welcome to a.net Tkfan

Thank you my friend, after reading this forum since years, especially daily now with the Turkish Aviation Threads, it was a matter of time when to join in.

You all are doing a great job, providing precious informations for me (and surely others), thank you all
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:30 am

About the star Ranking, couldn't find the news of Skytrax again, when TK was dropped to a three star Airline.
Its not the first time, as in some news stated. Turkish Airlines had 4-Star-Status some years ago.
They slipped to 3-star, maybe due to cost cuttings.

As for 5-Stars... "They must eat at least 40 ovens bread"  Big grin
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:04 am



Quoting TKfan (Reply 7):
"They must eat at least 40 ovens bread"

This really made me laugh.. We had a teacher who once shouted at me "I will multiply you from wall to wall"  Smile Legend has it that he also used the sentence "The door is december" a few times Wink

Not much to comment on the Turkish Aviation right now but after some 5 months, I am flying extensively again in December. I am traveling to Paris on business and then to Miami, NYC, Belgium and Paris (again) on vacation soon. The schedule is as follows:

AF A321 IST-CDG Dec. 16
CO B772 CDG-EWR Dec 20
CO B738 EWR-MIA Dce 20
CO B752 FLL-EWR Dec 26
CO B772 EWR-CDG Dec 29
AF A319 CDG-IST Jan 2
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:32 am



Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 8):
I am traveling to Paris on business and then to Miami, NYC, Belgium and Paris (again) on vacation soon.

Hi Turkishwings,

Inform FlySSC about your trip. If you will be able to catch him, I am sure he may help you for a cockpit ride  Smile
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:50 am



Quoting TK787 (Reply 5):
If you look at the group of airlines on that 4* list you will see what I mean.

yes indeed! just take look here http://www.airlinequality.com/StarRanking/4star.htm and you will find in which league now our national airline is playing/flying... AF, NH, BA, LH, EK, JL, LH, KE, QF, SA, LX and TG are only a few of these players...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:02 pm



Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-I am happy to let all of you know that this is the first anniversary of Turkish Aviation Threads, just take a look at what we were talking about a year ago:
Turkish Aviation Thread Dec.2006 (by TK787 Dec 3 2006 in Civil Aviation)

just read it, quite interesting as what is realised and what still not known (i.e. TK's longhaul decision)

What do you think are the chances that Turkish Airlines will order (hopefully some dozens Big grin) narrowbodies when ordering their long-haulers?
I think its not only the ageing 734 to be replaced but also the first delivered 738s. next year they are going to be 10 years in operation, and when the first slots for 320 or 738 are available they might be 15 or older.

or do you think they will be leased also for 20 years  Yeah sure
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:23 pm



Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 8):
CO B752 FLL-EWR Dec 26

Oh Boy, you know that you will be flying the day after x-mas in one of the most travelled routes in the US, in one of the most travelled days of the year. Fingers crossed, you will have a great trip and hope for weather to be nice in EWR.
News about TK:
-Next year will add 6x320s, 5x321s, 8x738s, 3x310Fs. Some leased planes and 4x310pax will go.
-Jan 1st-Sept 30th financial numbers are in: 194mil. YTL net profit ($164mil), last year same period 127mil.YTL
-Looks like TK will reach and maybe beat their goal of carrying 20mil. pax in 2007.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:34 pm



Quoting TKfan (Reply 11):
I think its not only the ageing 734 to be replaced

TK just recently extended the leases on most of those 734s, if I am not mistaken all the way into 2010.
About the short haul of TK fleet:
-738s coming in could be 739ERs.
-319s were to be increased in numbers, but what happened? Maybe no need for a 100 seater plane in TKs fleet in the future, but how about some in 5-10years?
Besides leasing for the near future, TK will order the next generation in big numbers when time comes and no more 320/321/738 orders.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:15 pm



Quoting TK787 (Reply 13):
TK just recently extended the leases on most of those 734s, if I am not mistaken all the way into 2010.

I'm afraid they will be in service till 2015 (according to their pressreleases)
And if the management of 2015 is as fast deciding as the current one, we will see them still in 2025 Big grin

Quoting TK787 (Reply 13):
-738s coming in could be 739ERs.

I was thinking of that too when Boeing introduced them, bearing in mind that the A310s will leave and that they might be usefull for daily services to LOS, DEL, BOM, KHI etc.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 12):
News about TK:

the first converted 310 is now in service. additional frequencies to existing ones, and new dedicated cargo flights to CGN, TBS and ZRH
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:15 pm

Any idea which aircraft flew Abdullah Gul to Islamabad?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:26 pm

hello again everyone, news from ESB, SN brussels airlines was here for the first time today. Flight number 1091 coming in. A319 equipment. The tower had no idea of their icao callsign and kept calling them "delta alpha tango 1091"  laughing 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:32 am

Wing,
it's nice to hear your insight on the story.
I already sent an email to a journalist in Milliyet daily when he claimed that the lack of ILS was the reason for the crash. Of course, he didn't reply back  Smile

I am sick and tired of these ILS comments in the media and by so called experts.. Most of the experienced or 'kasarlanmis' people don't know anything about ILS being replaced by some WAAS GPS approaches in the near future. The cost of doing these approaches are much lower compared to ordering ILSs. The airplanes can be upgraded to use these approaches but no one will be interested in doing that.

I really wish that incident will lead to the following in Turkey:
- Better CRM techniques.
- Better crew scheduling. (Your former airline is still using pen and pencil)
- Better rest periods.

As far as the landing in Poland incident I have known the f/o since 2001 and I think she has been flying in Sky since then..

Take care..

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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:43 am



Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 20):
Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 8):
CO B738 EWR-MIA Dce 20

Good luck with that flight...

Why?  Smile
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:41 pm

Degerli arkadaslar, bugun 3 Aralik, askerlik sinavina girdim, officially, asker oldum, ucuslarim durdu, artik yazin bi ara gorusmek uzere, 12 aralikta teslim olcam, hepinize saygilar, gokyuzune iyi bakin benim icin  Smile

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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:47 pm



Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 23):

Aydin, hayirli teskereler kardesim... Allah sabir versin..

We would like to see you soon back..
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:17 pm

Pilotaydin,
Good luck, it will be over before you know it. Drop us a line once in a while please.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:56 pm

http://www.thy.com/tr-TR/services/ca...ces/cargo_flight/new_aircraft.aspx
2nd TK 310F first flight Dec.1st.
Next one to be completed in March.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:34 pm



Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 23):

Hayirli Teskereler, hope you will have a pleasant time. I m still escaping from this duty  Big grin
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:41 pm

to TK787

you wrote in the November thread, that the two 332 will arrive in 2009, but other than that there are two more 332 and a 343 to arrive until the end of this year (I think Wing said that in the same thread)


Another question of me is, when Air China is going to fly daily to IST next summer, will Turkish Airlines codeshare on this flight? And do they keep the routing PEK-PVG or just fly nonstop to PVG?

Anyone has infomations on that?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:52 pm



Quoting TKfan (Reply 28):
two more 332 and a 343 to arrive until the end of this year

I didn't put that down since it is not confirmed.
 
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Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:02 pm



Quoting TK787 (Reply 29):
I didn't put that down since it is not confirmed.

me neither, but Bahadir talked about an agreement with a middle eastern leasing company. thats why I also asked for the serial numbers.

The two 332 coming in February 2009 are leased from Celestial Aviation
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:09 pm

I think it is getting a bit confusing but I will try to clear this:
-2x332s coming in early 2009 from Celestial
-2x332s and a 340 to arrive this month is still unconfirmed. Whether coming from alafco or not still unconfirmed.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:10 pm

Aydýn all I have to say is there is nothing to worry about.I am sure once you get used to the conditions and the commanders you will see everything is allright.My advice is to turn off your ears to what they say just think that the clock thics minute after minute.Toilet and baths are a little of a problem at first but then you loose your humanity and you don't get disturbed by the filth.In many places the meal are now prepared by private companies not exactly the captains meal but still well above the acceptable limits.

Its always good to get on well with the long term soldiers.Dont get offended when they call you "Poþet" if you get along with them you will see that in many areas they will help you a lot.You can get extra clean sheets,extra cheese with your toast,even maybe the least time on 3-5 am duties.Believe me even if you are the son of the general, these are the things you can not get.All these will cost you a 5 min chat with the young anatolia guys who never ever get attention or taken serious by others.
Well there is a lot things to say just give me a call you have my mobile I'll give you some advice on what "must you take there".Þimdiden hayýrlý teskereler.Merak etme 34 yaþýndan sonra ben becerdiysem sen haydi haydi yaparsýn.Best wishes Kanat.
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:10 pm

I just saw a TV news brief , another reporter crying faul for not having ILS in Sulu Airport. I want to puke..

Aydin,
close your eyes, ears and nose and 'askerlik' will be over soon.. I don't wish it to my worst enemy , it was really tough for me at 37. Best of luck.
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:45 pm



Quoting TK787 (Reply 13):

739ER?!  banghead 
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Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:10 pm



Quoting TK787 (Reply 13):

TK just recently extended the leases on most of those 734s, if I am not mistaken all the way into 2010.
About the short haul of TK fleet:
-738s coming in could be 739ERs.

TK787 sorry to burst your bubble but TK doesn't have any orders for 739ERs. The only Turkish carrier that has order for that equipment is Sky Airlines. 739ER would have been a great airliner for TK if they didn't have A321s on order / in fleet.
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:22 pm

Aydin, i'm guessing you're in Ankara till the 12th. We should meet up before you go. En büyük asker bizim asker diye omuzlara almak gerek Big grin
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:02 pm



Quoting Bahadir (Reply 35):
739ER would have been a great airliner for TK if they didn't have A321s on order / in fleet.

What are the chances TK may switch the remaining 738 into 739ER?

I think the 739ER is not in direct competition to the 321, they can do LOS, DEL, BOM, ALA etc. with a decent payload and seat configuration. Guess the 321 is not capable for this
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:43 am

TKFan,
737-900ER or -900 would have been a great airplane for the routes that TK is using A321 for. The airplane can pack pax when you need more pax than 738. I don't think it was a very good airplane for LOS, DEL, BOM because at the time the ER model didn't exist.

From Boeing's website:
The 737-900ER has substantial economic advantages over competing models including six percent lower operating costs per trip and four percent lower operating costs per seat mile than the A321, which is 9,550 pounds (4,340 kg) heavier. The website gives the range as 3200nm.

A321-200 cannot go as far .. they can reach about 3000 nm with 189 pax. Another reason why TK should beat themselves up for ordering A320 family.
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Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:49 am



Quoting Pilotaydin (Reply 23):
Degerli arkadaslar, bugun 3 Aralik, askerlik sinavina girdim, officially, asker oldum, ucuslarim durdu, artik yazin bi ara gorusmek uzere, 12 aralikta teslim olcam, hepinize saygilar, gokyuzune iyi bakin benim icin Smile

aydin

Hayirli tezkereler olsun Aydin... I too went last year at the very same time.... It will be a hard time but you just need to take it easy... You are lucky it will be in winter time.... It's generally better as opposed to summer they say....

Quoting Wing (Reply 32):
Dont get offended when they call you "Po�et" if you get along with them you will see that in many areas they will help you a lot.

Hehehe... They used to call us that too... "Poset Cavus" to be exact  Smile That is only because they are terribly jealous... I tried to reason with the 20 year old kids but it didn't work.. I ended up beating them up everyday until they realized I was older than them and I had a higher rank than them... One of the hardest things of all is to deal with these kids....
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:21 am



Quoting Bahadir (Reply 38):

Thank you very much for your informations.

Quoting Bahadir (Reply 38):
A321-200 cannot go as far .. they can reach about 3000 nm with 189 pax.

Are you sure about 3000 nm? That is much more than a 738 (TK: 4755 km)?

My thoughts were based on the informations given at TK's webpage. They seem to be not accurate, as their 320 are performing like their 734. i.e. the maximum range for the 320family and 734 is 3350 km.

The 739ER should enter in service next year, isnt it?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:53 am



Quoting TKfan (Reply 40):

The 739ER should enter in service next year, isnt it?

Lion Air took the delivery of the first airplane.

http://www.lionair.co.id/promonews_archives.htm

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q3/060717b_nr.html talks about how the advancements in the airplane will give the airliner what it lacked on the non ER version: the range.

One of the early operators of 900 non ER, Alaska, suffered a lot from lack of range on the coast to coast routes. -700 had the range but not enough seats; 900 had seats but not enough range. -900 is really good airplane on low yield routes. One drawback of the airplane is being really prone to tail strikes. The approach speed on -900 is intentionally higher so that they can avoid high pitch attitude on landing.
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:43 am

Quoting TKfan (Reply 14):
I was thinking of that too when Boeing introduced them, bearing in mind that the A310s will leave and that they might be usefull for daily services to LOS, DEL, BOM, KHI etc.



Quoting TKfan (Reply 37):
I think the 739ER is not in direct competition to the 321, they can do LOS, DEL, BOM, ALA etc. with a decent payload and seat configuration. Guess the 321 is not capable for this



Quoting Bahadir (Reply 38):
I don't think it was a very good airplane for LOS, DEL, BOM because at the time the ER model didn't exist.

think there was a confusion, i was talking about the future, not when the routes were inaugurated.
my thought were the 739ER as an substitute for the leaving 310.

When LOS were inaugurated, they flew 2 times a week, increased to 3 the next season because of high demand.
this winter they reduced to 2 again, i guess due to 310 shortage.
Last year one of our employees flew TXL-IST-LOS, she told me it was almost full with Nigerians from all over the world. She had to stay one night in Istanbul, and had visa issues.
If they serve LOS daily, they would get much more feeder traffic from their network, especially with better connections.

Same for KRT-ADD. A friend flew TXL-IST-KRT, also full

[Edited 2007-12-04 02:47:06]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:54 pm

Virtus Et Honor - S.P.Q.R.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:07 pm

Here is TC-JCV at the paint shop.
I think this is the first 310 that was converted at Dresden.
So first they got converted then they get a paint job in Istanbul?

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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:48 am

most probably they have no paint-shop facalities at DRS
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:00 am

I am sick of TK's website's booking system. Was shopping around for some IST-SEA-IST tickets but the booking engine doesn't even consider the IST-JFK option for the travel. It just forces me to go through ORD. With the flight freq. reduced to 3x week during the low season, this is not a great option..
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:31 am

Interesting report on a TK 737-800 that almost kissed the ground leaving STN.  Sad

http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/cms_resou...ng%20737-800,%20TC-JGR%2011-07.pdf
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:58 am



Quoting Bahadir (Reply 46):
I am sick of TK's website's booking system

Mention it to the person whom I had given you contact for. I'm sure he'd be happy to get input.
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:36 pm

Interesting article about TK's India service. There may not be that much of a O&D traffic but there are many connecting opportunities.

http://www.propertyshowrooms.com/tur...ey/property/news/article-1559.html
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:26 pm

Read at another forum TK interested in flying to Bangalore and Chennai, latter will be cargo only.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:43 am



Quoting Bahadir (Reply 47):
Interesting report on a TK 737-800 that almost kissed the ground leaving STN

I have read the report it is quite interesting.STN was my last flight before I went to military so its been a while that I went there.I was about to say "yuh artýk" for these crew's actions, but on the other the hand the notes on the header of SID plate is also pretty misleading.In most SID plates the initial climb altitude/levels clearly indicated on the header of the plate.

But still a 500' AGL level off must be alarming in an area of MSA is 1800'.If you think that is somewhat confusing you can always ask for what altitude to be level off expected to delivery.Contrary to the ATC controllers in Turkey,European ATC is always quite friendly if you know how to communicate with them.

The A319 pilot was a little bit carried away I think to alert everybody.Sure we airbus pilots don't like the Boeing guys  Smilebut still every PIC should mind his own business,TCAS is not an exact tool to rely on, especially when you re on the ground.

Overall; confusions may happen and these guys are lucky to survive this incident without it getting worst.I took my note to my experience section about this,as every pilot should learn something from others' mistakes since you cant live long enough to make all of your own.
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:37 pm



Quoting Wing (Reply 51):
The A319 pilot was a little bit carried away I think to alert everybody.

If you ask me, the greater the number of eyes looking after one another the safer the flying environment. The TK flight may not have been alerted so quickly by the radar controller if it wasnt for the A319 crew initiating a response chain. Now imagine the crew going on for a few more miles at that altitude, possibly into IMC with everyone keeping quiet. When you observe something unusual in aviation, the last thing to do is to keep quiet about it. I think it was example behavior on the parts of the A319 crew, the ground controller and tower controller.

Quoting Wing (Reply 51):
every PIC should mind his own business,TCAS is not an exact tool to rely on, especially when you re on the ground.

They actually saw the TK plane flying low. The reference to TCAS was just to back up what they saw.
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RE: Turkish Aviation December 2007

Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:00 pm

Latest news from ch-aviation; lots of wet-leasing:

-Inter Airlines (6K/Antalya) has wet-leased two of its three A321-200s to Saudi Arabian Airlines (SV/Jeddah) for the winter season.
-Atlasjet Airlines (KK/Antalya) has wet-leased its two B757-200s to Air Memphis (MHS/Cairo) and Saudi Arabian Airlines (SV/Jeddah) for the winter season.
-Corendon Airlines (CAI/Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen) is currently operating one of its B737-300s on behalf of Cameroon Airlines (UY/Douala) and has wet-leased a B737-400 to Aerosvit Airlines (VV/Kiev Borispol) for the winter season.
-Sky Airlines (SHY/Antalya) has wet-leased one of its B737-400s to Air Algérie (AH/Algiers) for the winter season.
-Pegasus Airlines (H9/Istanbul Ataturk) has wet-leased a B737-800 to Kam-Air (RQ/Kabul).
-World Focus Airlines (VVF/Istanbul Ataturk) has wet-leased a MD-83 to Eritrean Airlines (B8/Asmara) replacing an Atlasjet Airlines (KK/Antalya) B757-200.