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Civil Aircraft Involved In Multiple Accidents

Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:15 pm

A few years ago when I was in Alaska I flew on a wheel-ski equipped Cessna 185, N185FK, operated by Talkeetna Air Taxi and we landed on a glacier.


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For some odd reason, I was browsing through the NTSB databases when I discovered one of N185FK's sister ships, N5246E, has been involved in no less than 5 separate accidents reported to the NTSB!


http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X23858&key=1
August 08, 1990
Right MLG broke at axle due to fatigue cracks.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...208X05340&ntsbno=ANC96LA030&akey=1
March 04, 1996
"The pilot landed the ski-equipped airplane on a rough and uneven frozen lake, and the left main landing gear collapsed. Inspection showed that the gear failure was consistent with overload forces."

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...08X06391&ntsbno=ANC96LA111A&akey=1
August 04, 1996
Mid-air collision with helicopter knocked off tailwheel.  eek 

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...208X08531&ntsbno=ANC97LA120&akey=1
August 09, 1997
"As the tundra tire equipped airplane slowed to 25 knots during the landing roll on a gravel strip, the left main landing gear leg separated at the wheel attachment bolt holes. The airplane ground looped, and both wingtips were damaged. Metallurgical examination revealed multiple fatigue cracks originating from the bolt holes. The airplane had been used extensively for off-airport landings, both on wheels and skis."

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?...610X00842&ntsbno=ANC03LA057&akey=1
June 09, 2003
"The pilot of the wheel ski-equipped airplane was attempting to takeoff down-slope from a remote mountain glacier airstrip for an air taxi sightseeing flight . The pilot reported that the snow on the runway was fresh and wet, which slowed the airplane's acceleration. He said he elected to abort the takeoff because of the airplane's slow acceleration and low airspeed. Following the aborted takeoff, he initiated a left turn to return to the top of the airstrip for another takeoff attempt. As the airplane turned, the pilot said it felt like the right main landing gear wheel ski encountered a soft spot or sink hole, and sank deeper into the snow. As soon the as the ski sank, the airplane nosed over. The airplane received structural damage to the fuselage and right wing."

Do you know of any other aircraft involved in as many reported incidents? I limited this to CIVIL aircraft because I know it has happened many times with military A/C.
 
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RE: Civil Aircraft Involved In Multiple Accidents

Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:52 pm



Quoting Queso (Thread starter):
Mid-air collision with helicopter knocked off tailwheel.

Wow, how the he*l did that happen? How do not hear or see a helicopter. Interesting none the less...


I have only heard of civil a/c in 2 incidents like the a/c that older guy who crashed in Richmond, BC.

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/268908



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RE: Civil Aircraft Involved In Multiple Accidents

Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:10 pm

Don't know about aircraft, but re pilots: I once saw a television documentary about the Ethiopian Airlines 767 flight that crashed into the sea after being hi-jacked and headed for Australia - before running out of fuel. The pilot had survived numerous crashes (five, if I recall correctly) - and was still working for the airline!
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RE: Civil Aircraft Involved In Multiple Accidents

Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:22 pm



Quoting DavidByrne (Reply 2):
The pilot had survived numerous crashes (five, if I recall correctly) - and was still working for the airline!

Actually it was 5 previous hijackings. But still, I would wanna quit that airline after the second one!


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RE: Civil Aircraft Involved In Multiple Accidents

Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:50 am

In late January or early February, 1970, a future N739PA-registered 747-121 slated for Pan American was involved in a mishap. I found this from "Boeing 747: Design And Development Since 1969" by Guy Norris & Mark Wagner, from Motorbrooks International, published in 1997, page 46:

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(N739PA) was being used to help test the effects of crosswinds on engine performance...(the test was) on the JT9D-3 engines with deactivated barometric pressure switches, and a Vance International DC-7 was brought in as a giant wind machine. As the DC-7 taxied into position to one side of the 747, its vertical fin and rudder struck the right outboard elevator of the 747, causing damage to both aircraft. N739PA was repaired and delivered to Pan Am a few days later on February 15, 1970.

N739PA served for 18 years, 10 months, and a few days before being tragically lost over Lockerbie, Scotland.
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RE: Civil Aircraft Involved In Multiple Accidents

Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:06 am



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 4):

That is very interesting information about the bad start and the tragic ending for the aircraft and all those poor people on board.
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RE: Civil Aircraft Involved In Multiple Accidents

Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:21 am

That AA MD80 that had the massive engine failure at STL a few months ago had previously been involved in a landing in which the nose gear collapsed.
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RE: Civil Aircraft Involved In Multiple Accidents

Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:13 am



Quoting 777STL (Reply 6):

I was thinking of that same plane myself.
I believe AA454 is it's tail number.
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RE: Civil Aircraft Involved In Multiple Accidents

Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:57 am

You'll have to forgive my poor memory but a BEA Trident 1 was involved in two accidents.
At LHR in the late 1960s a freighter (Ambassador?) crashed into a line of parked aircraft at Terminal 1. Two Tridents were involved RPI and RPT. They were rebuilt into one aircraft which was RPI. I believe the whole rear fuselage of one was grafted onto the fwd fuselage of the other.
RPI was the Trident that later crashed on take off from LHR when the leading edge devices (they are not slats but droop on a T1) were retracted prematurely.

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