glacote
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Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:33 pm

I have booked a return trip from Chicago to south America on AA. The first leg connects in Miami. It turns out I would like to start from LAX instead. I found an AA one-way flight LAX-MIA which would work schedule-wise.

However my guess is that if I don't do the ORD-MIA leg (because I am atually doing LAX-MIA instead) my connecting leg will be automatically cancelled.

Is this true, and is there any way I can register from LAX to my final destination without risking the connection being cancel?

Any hint/advice will be much appreciated! Thank you...

PS: it would have been easier to book it that way to begin with but I failed to do so on aa.com
 
Maverick623
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:46 am

So if I'm reading correctly, your original itinerary was ORD-MIA-South America, and you want to go instead LAX-MIA-South America.


Pretty simple, just call AA reservations. There's going to be some sort of change fee, but that's it.
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:53 am



Quoting Glacote (Thread starter):
However my guess is that if I don't do the ORD-MIA leg (because I am atually doing LAX-MIA instead) my connecting leg will be automatically cancelled.

You would have to call AA. Not only would your connecting flight be cancelled, but you would not be able to check your bag through from LAX to South America, because the two flights would show as different PNRs.
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:40 am

Call them... like mentioned here, if you miss your ORD-MIA flight, automatically your MIA-South America flight will be canceled (if you make a separate reservation LAX-MIA)... call them, pay the change fee, and you'll know you (and your bags) will make it to S. America  Smile
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glacote
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:16 am

Thanks for the advice.
 
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:42 pm



Quoting Chase (Reply 6):
Another option (I'm sure you've already considered it, but just in case) is that you could just buy a LAX-ORD flight.

That's effectively my last resort solution. But it's a waste of time, kerozen and missed opportunity for AA to fill a seat. But if that's the "legal" way to do it then so be it. I won't "fraud" AA.
 
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:09 pm



Quoting Mcamargo (Reply 3):
pay the change fee

Plus any fare difference; this is actually an entire rebooking not a change to an existing reservation. Of course it might be cheaper, but only if you returned to LAX otherwise you now have a multicity itinerary instead of a PtP round trip.
 
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:48 am

Be careful when you rebook. They really hit you hard. I changed a flight one time and it cost me more to change it than it did for the flight! Just FYI
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:10 pm



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 5):
Having a journey booked in 2 diffferent PNR's doesn't stop you through checking. It just means when you check in the agent has to add the oncarriage details, takes 2 seconds

That may be true in the reality world of Amadeus, however in the reality world of airline check-in staff it can take anywhere from 2 seconds to 2 hours depending on their level of experience. They can also refuse to through check you if they don't feel like doing it!
 
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:24 am



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 5):
Having a journey booked in 2 diffferent PNR's doesn't stop you through checking. It just means when you check in the agent has to add the oncarriage details, takes 2 seconds.

Some airlines will not through-check baggage when using separate tickets, especially of different airlines are involved. It can create problems determining who is responsible if the bag goes astray or is damaged when the passenger is travelling under two separate contracts.
 
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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:55 am



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 9):
Be careful when you rebook. They really hit you hard. I changed a flight one time and it cost me more to change it than it did for the flight! Just FYI
Sully

Really depends on the type of fare  Smile I'm not sure how it works on AA but with CO and NW If he's on a full-fare ticket, it would be farediff only, no change fee. Choosing a random date, and checking ORD-MIA and LAX-MIA shows only a slight farediff on the lowest available fare classes (about US$30, keep in mind that you would almost certainly have a change fee) and about a 20% premium on full-fare (about US$200, but no change fee)-- and this doesn't include fares that may only appear/be valid on through flights.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
It can create problems determining who is responsible if the bag goes astray or is damaged when the passenger is travelling under two separate contracts.

If the airlines are both members of IATA and participate in the industry agreements on Interline passengers, baggage, and cargo (actually "baggage" is the only important one here), the delivering carrier (i.e. the one who your last flight is on before arriving at your destination) is the one that's responsible for getting you your luggage. Always.

I can understand why an airline wouldn't want to transfer bags if they don't have the agreements in place, that's just common sense. (As a general rule, legacy, erm, "network" airlines such as AA, AS, CO, DL, UA, etc do; most isolated LCCs such as WN, B6, etc. do not)

Though I wouldn't be that excited about trying it because the likelihood of your bag arriving at the same place at the same time as you do is proportional to the competence of the agent... and by the time you can make that judgement, it's already too late.

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RE: Swapping The First Leg Of A Connecting Flight

Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:02 am



Quoting BigOrange (Reply 10):
in the reality world of airline check-in staff it can take anywhere from 2 seconds to 2 hours depending on their level of experience.

It shouldn't - on every PARS-based DCS system in the universe it's the same input usually - 1/O/BA55 LHRJNB - hardly rocket science. And in the reality world of Amadeus the system has already found the seperate oncarriage booking automatically (if you're a frequent flyer or used the same credit card), so the agent doesn't need to do anything  Smile (sorry, brief sales message there)

Quoting BigOrange (Reply 10):
They can also refuse to through check you if they don't feel like doing it!

I suppose there is that possibility, but I've never had a problem like that.
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