Boston92
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Santa Barbara,CA (SBA) Will Lose ILS For Some Time

Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:52 pm

Due to a runway shift of 800 feet to the west, the Santa Barbara airport will be without its only Instrument Landing System for runway 7 for a good part of 2008. SBA is socked in with fog frequently, and this should delay and cancel a very large (in relation) percentage of flights into or out of the airport. SBA sees circa 400 a/c operations a day. Some days, we see heavy fog long periods of time (48 hours). This should make operations at the airport pretty hard and inconsistent. If you are planning on leaving or coming to the area, maybe a different airport would be a better idea to minimize your fairly large chance of having a delay or cancellation.
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RE: Santa Barbara,CA (SBA) Will Lose ILS For Some Time

Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:52 pm

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RE: Santa Barbara,CA (SBA) Will Lose ILS For Some Time

Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:37 am

Wow...I did some TDY there with American Eagle and there were a few times A/C returned to LAX due to the fog. This could be trouble for the pax and employees there, Iam glad Iam not returning there anytime soon and have to deal with that! Good luck SBA!
 
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RE: Santa Barbara,CA (SBA) Will Lose ILS For Some Time

Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:29 pm

Went searching and appears the FAA has not open any method for certification of a temporary ILS for situations such as this. Neither has the Canadians. While these systems have existed for years with various military operations nothing appears to have been certified for civilian use in North America. As developing new airports is far less likely than renewing and upgrading existing one would think that the FAA would have at least one temp system approved for these situations. Further, any thought of any additional/improved service during this outage...especially during late night/early morning time frames is pretty much toast. There will be money to be made in bus service/rental car.
 
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RE: Santa Barbara,CA (SBA) Will Lose ILS For Some Time

Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:17 pm

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 6):

Just for the info: There are a few services.

www.santabarbarairbus.com They are the cheapest and have full size coaches.

www.centralcoastshuttle.com They are a bit more, and on vans, but go about 70 miles more north than the airbus.

But this is just for LAX pax. SBA also has nonstop flights from SFO (24), SJC (8), DEN (4), PDX (2), SEA (2), DFW (4), SAN (4), SMF (4), LAS (4), PHX (10), and SLC (4). The numbers in ( ) is the number of t/o's + landings per day to and from that airport.

Other airports in the area (driving time)

OXR- 40 min south
SMX- 1 hour north
SBP- 2 hours north


EDIT- Added Salt Lake to my list.

[Edited 2007-12-06 12:21:52]
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RE: Santa Barbara,CA (SBA) Will Lose ILS For Some Time

Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:30 pm

Why isn't there a way to just calibrate the ILS to a new location temporarily? Calibrate it for the 800 feet exactly in the right direction.
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