Chris
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Oldest Air Canada/Canadian 737

Sun Aug 27, 2000 3:21 am

What is the oldest 737-200 still flying with Air Canada/Canadian? I am interested because some of the former Canadian Airlines 737s were inherited when the Pacific Western/ Nordair/ EPA merger took place. Thanks, Chris
 
DaveT
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RE: Oldest Air Canada/Canadian 737

Sun Aug 27, 2000 3:55 am

The oldest by date of manufacture in the Canadian 737 inventory is:

C-GAPW 737-275 advanced. Line # 370 manufactured in 1974 between August and Dec. This aircraft is leased from America West and does not have a past with Canadian's predessors. The aircraft was imported into Canada in 1988 and registered with it's current # on 93/12/01. The former U.S. registration was N127AW

 
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RE: Oldest Air Canada/Canadian 737

Sun Aug 27, 2000 4:10 am

After further research, the oldest pre-Canadian Airlines ship still in service is C-GFPW 737-275C advanced manufactured in 1976 and delivered to PWA in Dec. 1976.

Ownership on the Canadian registry changed from PWA to Canadian Airlines on 88/01/11.

Although I cannot confirm from databases I have, i would suggest the original PWA registration remained on the aircraft through the PWA/CP merger as the excisting registration ends with "PW".
 
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RE:C-GAPW

Sun Aug 27, 2000 4:30 am

A search of http://airliners.decollage.org shows that C-GAPW(as the reg suggests)was originally bought by PWA and then sold[or leased] to HP.
It is the oldest of the current CP 732s.
Does anyone know how/why America West got it?
The above link says it is still in service.

 
 
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RE: RE:C-GAPW

Sun Aug 27, 2000 4:49 am

777YYC,

Your information is reversed.....

The aircraft is being leased FROM America West and is presently operating as the noted registration for Canadian Airlines.

The Canadian registry supports this information.

It is indeed the oldest 737 under the brand name Canadian but without a historical past as related to Chris's question.

Thanks for that link by the way, i did not know about it.
 
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RE: Oldest Air Canada/Canadian 737

Sun Aug 27, 2000 4:59 am

Chris,

If you are curious, the first 737-200 series aircraft entered into Canada as CP-Air CF-CPB on Oct. 22, 1968.

The disposal date was in 1982 when it was sold to People Express.

After a stint with People, The aircraft was transferred over to Continental for obvious reason and the current state of the aircraft can be found in Ardmore, Oklahoma as scrapped metal.

Question: does anyone know if a 737-100 series was ever registered in Canada earlier than the CF-CRB registration above?

By the way, Thanks for the question Chris, I love going back to the days of CP-Air and PWA.
 
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RE: Oldest Air Canada/Canadian 737

Sun Aug 27, 2000 6:57 am

I don't know about the date of the oldes Air Canadian 737 but I can tell you that the oldest 737 they have is as old as their (AC) newest DC-9-30 so the next time someone from the AC part of Air Canadian tells you they need to get rid of the "OLD" 737's you can tell them that they are not the oldest planes in the AC fleet!
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
 
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RE: Oldest Air Canada/Canadian 737

Sun Aug 27, 2000 12:05 pm

I am sure that your fantasy Slawko is to run AC some day and perhaps Lord Milton will pass the torch over, but I am really curious why your point has anything NOT to do with Chris's question.

i.e. Who cares about AC's 9'ers!

Let me tell you something, if you really want to prosper in the airline business, you want to run a company and be like a Milton or a Gordon Bethune.... you need to know the past.... the history.... events that shape the current day. The history dictates the future.

Tiger Woods plays incredible golf we have not seen in 20 years... why, because he has an inherent gift having studied the game from the first day.

You can't get away saying you don't know what is the oldest CP 737 in service.... you need to recite the answer.
 
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RE: Oldest Air Canada/Canadian 737

Sun Aug 27, 2000 5:58 pm


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RE: Oldest Air Canada/Canadian 737

Thu Aug 31, 2000 8:26 am

The 75 order designator on GAPW would indicate it was originally delivered to PWA... I would assume it was then sent off to AWA, and later brought back to Canadian...

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