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Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:00 pm

Delta will discontinue their 4x weekly 737-800 service between Columbus and Los Angeles in January.

Look for all Delta mainline to be gone sometime this year, along with American and USAirways mainline.

A certain new carrier in Columbus comes up a lot as far as reasoning for the airline cutbacks.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:05 pm

Saw it coming. RDU and BDL are next.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:24 pm



Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
Saw it coming. RDU and BDL are next.

Probably, IMO. And possibly MSY and OKC.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:44 pm



Quoting FlyCMH (Thread starter):
Look for all Delta mainline to be gone sometime this year, along with American and USAirways mainline.

MQ doesn't have the aircraft to provide sufficient lift to DFW for AA to pull mainline, and CMH-PHX is a heck of a long flight for a CR9. Don't overestimate the effect of SX.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:07 pm

Rats, I was considering taking this flight in the spring....
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:12 pm



Quoting FlyCMH (Thread starter):
Delta will discontinue their 4x weekly 737-800 service between Columbus and Los Angeles in January.

Look for all Delta mainline to be gone sometime this year, along with American and USAirways mainline.

A certain new carrier in Columbus comes up a lot as far as reasoning for the airline cutbacks.

Is there a linked article somewhere? Thanks.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:22 pm



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
And possibly MSY

If they cut it it'd be due to the cost of fuel, not due to the success of the market in general. From what I am told DL is doing pretty well in it with high F class demand since UA is just Ted now in the market.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:25 pm

ATL-CMH will be all DCI...really????

I think RDU and BDL should do well.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:40 pm

Quoting FlyCMH (Thread starter):
Look for all Delta mainline to be gone sometime this year

I figured the LAX route was the only reason CMH still had DL mainline flights. Everything else has been dropped to RJs.

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 7):
ATL-CMH will be all DCI...really????

It's been mostly DCI for a year at least. Mainline started dropping off a couple years ago & it's been a free fall since. The 757s haven't been here since '04, then it was a mix of M88s, 738s & a 732, then there was a late night ERJ flight that showed up & more 70 seaters have replaced mainline as time has gone on. I looked up a random date (2/14) & the schedule shows 5 E-170s, 1 Mad Dog, 1 738 & a CRJ to ATL. It's 4 CRJs, a couple ERJs & an MD to CVG.

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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:05 am



Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
RDU and BDL are next

I thought I read somewhere they were getting good numbers on the BDL flight. A buddy of mine flew on it a few times and he said they always packed them in pretty tight. Hope BDL doesn't lose the flight!
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:13 am

Looks like RDU gets canned too. BDL remains the sole survivor.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:25 am



Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 10):
Looks like RDU gets canned too.

Where'd you hear that?  Confused
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:26 am



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
OKC

I doubt it, UAX just added the second n/s flight to LAX. Which means we now have roughly 200 seats there and back if my math is correct, not to mention XE to ONT. I'm surprised WN hasn't attempted it, since SoCal is a big operation for WN.

Time will tell.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:32 am



Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 12):
I doubt it, UAX just added the second n/s flight to LAX.

...and that would make it all the more reason for DL to cancel the route.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:42 am



Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 10):
Looks like RDU gets canned too. BDL remains the sole survivor.

Its still in the schedule, where did you hear that RDU-LAX is going the way of CMH? I wont be surprised, but it still there right now.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:53 am

So, between now and January, DL (between mainline and ExpressJet) will cut the following LAX markets:

CMH
JAX
LAS (mainline only)
LMM
MFE
SAN
YVR

Is this the beginning of a pulldown?
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:07 am



Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 11):
Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 10):
Looks like RDU gets canned too.

Where'd you hear that?

RDU shows zeroed-out for the month of January, as does CMH, which is generally a good indication that a route is going to be canceled before it's actually removed from the system.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:23 am



Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 15):
CMH
JAX
LAS (mainline only)
LMM
MFE
SAN
YVR

Is this the beginning of a pulldown?

Plus add in the "seasonal" markets which were to return and never did, along with pretty anemic low frequency in many remaining ones especially those to Mexico.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:27 am



Quoting HVNandrew (Reply 15):
Is this the beginning of a pulldown?

Possibly, however really, what market is there on a route like JAX-LAX, or CMH-LAX, or MFE? and LMM, where is that? Also, LAX-LAS has no shortage of flights. As for LAX-SAN, that route can be profitably served with a turbo prop, but not with a jet, its too short of a flight for jet service. As for YVR, I can't logically justify why it'd be cut from LAX.

I view DL's largest mistake was going into the obscure markets instead of the larger, higher yielding business centers. They don't have the name recognition, and the quickest way to gain that is to simply go to the larger business markets first with larger aircraft and a schedule that suits a business traveler going to LAX.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:27 am



Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 16):
RDU shows zeroed-out for the month of January, as does CMH, which is generally a good indication that a route is going to be canceled before it's actually removed from the system.

CMH would sell me a ticket in Feb on DL.com... hmmm....
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:27 am

DL are cutting a few RJ destinations out of ATL as well. I fear we're going to see a lot more of this if oil remains at this level.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:39 am



Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 19):

CMH would sell me a ticket in Feb on DL.com... hmmm....

Changes will be made to Delta's website overnight Saturday. GDS systems typically show zero'd out availability before airline websites do.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:56 am



Quoting FlyCMH (Thread starter):

Look for all Delta mainline to be gone sometime this year, along with American and USAirways mainline.

..do you mean mainline AA out of CMH? Besides a few flights to DFW, does AA fly any mainline out of CMH?
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:03 am



Quoting Kanebear (Reply 20):
DL are cutting a
few RJ destinations out of ATL as well. I fear we're going to see a lot more of this if oil remains at this level.

Any idea which ones?

Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 12):

I doubt it, UAX just added the second n/s flight to LAX. Which means we now have roughly 200 seats there and back if my math is correct, not to mention XE to ONT. I'm surprised WN hasn't attempted it, since SoCal is a big operation for WN.

Time will tell.

What does UA flying it have to do with DL? I didn't say anything about UA ending the route. I think it's a given Delta will end OKC-LAX soon, especially with UA at 2x daily.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:07 am



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23):
What does UA flying it have to do with DL? I didn't say anything about UA ending the route. I think it's a given Delta will end OKC-LAX soon, especially with UA at 2x daily.

I meant that as there is obviously some demand for the route, with 3 airlines operating the same [LAX/ONT] area. But then again, you may be right as there will be too much service and one airline will fold the route.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:21 am

Quoting DL777LAX (Reply 18):
As for YVR, I can't logically justify why it'd be cut from LAX.

They've even pulled YVR-SLC down to two CRJ's daily now. ATL is still a 752 4x per week (Thur, Fri, Sat, Sun) which should keep all the Florida bound Canadians happy through the winter months.
DL still appears to be offering SLC-CMH, but like many it has been downgraded from the MD-90 to the CRJ-900.

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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:27 am

OKC will be losing the last mainline flight as well...MD-88 to a CRJ. How times have really changed. It's like i'm back in TOL all over again. Which is losing an ATL trip and they will now be down to 1 ATL trip and 3 CVG trips. I don't think it has been that low for Delta since the days before Comair serving TOL and taking over the CVG flights. Crazy seeing the evolution in these markets...TOL use to have like 12-16 flights a day on DL/DCI equipment...now 4. OKC heading down the same path. At least they have additional airlines to carry the slack that are growing, instead of TOL.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:01 am



Quoting DL777LAX (Reply 18):

I view DL's largest mistake was going into the obscure markets instead of the larger, higher yielding business centers. They don't have the name recognition, and the quickest way to gain that is to simply go to the larger business markets first with larger aircraft and a schedule that suits a business traveler going to LAX.

Agreed. I have to give DL credit for trying.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:34 am



Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 26):
OKC will be losing the last mainline flight as well

Don't lose hope, it's probably a winter schedule adjustment. We'll probably get it back in April/May when the demand for summer travel starts to move.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:37 am



Quoting DL777LAX (Reply 18):
I view DL's largest mistake was going into the obscure markets instead of the larger, higher yielding business centers. They don't have the name recognition, and the quickest way to gain that is to simply go to the larger business markets first with larger aircraft and a schedule that suits a business traveler going to LAX.

LAX is a symptom of DL's problem as a whole - they're desperately short of mainline aircraft and as a result are forced to fly routes with unpopular and unprofitable RJs. Take SEA-LAX for example, a decent business and leisure route. DL flies 3 RJs daily on a route where AS has 10-12 mainline flights and UA has 4. How are they ever going to compete in a major business route when they fly 3x daily on a 2+ hour route in tiny little RJs?

DL needs new mainline planes and they need them fast. There are so many cities in DL's network that could use more capacity, but it simply doesn't exist.

Of course your point about needed to focus on business markets is important. I think that's part of what's led to the buildup of JFK/LAX though. DL's strategy for too long was routing people through artificially large hubs at inflated prices, but that model is no longer sustainable with high gas prices, and airlines like B6 that now allow people travelling cross country to avoid connections.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:42 am



Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 24):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23):
What does UA flying it have to do with DL? I didn't say anything about UA ending the route. I think it's a given Delta will end OKC-LAX soon, especially with UA at 2x daily.

I meant that as there is obviously some demand for the route, with 3 airlines operating the same [LAX/ONT] area. But then again, you may be right as there will be too much service and one airline will fold the route.

Just because three airlines fly a route doesn't mean there is necesarily demand. United and Delta announced the route at around the same time, and while I don't recall which one came first (I think it was DL), the other one entered the market in a clear reaction to help run the other one out. UA seems to be performing quite well based on the fact that they added a second frequency, but sometimes airlines make competitive responses based on what other airlines are doing, having little to do with true market demand.

And on that note, Delta literally just pulled OKC-LAX out of reservation systems. Last OKC-LAX flight is 07JAN08.

XJet will probably end OKC-ONT in due time, but that's because, IMO, they will fold their independent operations once they find an airline to contract out the planes to.

So, in sum, these are the Delta routes from LAX ending in December/January, as of now...

Belize (seasonal service, not resuming)
Columbus
Cozumel (seasonal service, not resuming)
Jacksonville
McAllen
Oklahoma City
Raleigh
San Diego
Vancouver
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:00 pm



Quoting RwSEA (Reply 29):
LAX is a symptom of DL's problem as a whole - they're desperately short of mainline aircraft and as a result are forced to fly routes with unpopular and unprofitable RJs. Take SEA-LAX for example, a decent business and leisure route. DL flies 3 RJs daily on a route where AS has 10-12 mainline flights and UA has 4. How are they ever going to compete in a major business route when they fly 3x daily on a 2+ hour route in tiny little RJs?

To be honest, I don't think RJs versus mainline would make much of a difference in some of these markets, regardless. In some of these markets, Delta is a really new entrant that is going up against far larger and more established players - namely Alaska, Southwest and United. In most of these west coast markets, Delta is going up against one or several of these airlines, all of which are stronger in this region, have a much more loyal and established market base, and - minor detail - lower costs (at least in the case of Alaska and Southwest).

To me, the whole LAX experiment - which is increasingly looking like more and more like something between mediocre and a moderate failure - is a "symptom" of a larger issue with Delta: over the last few years, they have been continuing to add more and more capacity in lots and lots of places. They are growing and growing and growing, more so with regional flying than with mainline, but growing nonetheless. While others have been contracting and pulling more seats out of the market in the face of rising fuel prices and not-as-quickly-rising ticket prices, Delta has been adding seats. Now, thankfully, Delta is beginning to show capacity restraint in domestic markets. About time.

Admirable for Delta to have given this little LAX mini-hub a shot. They had to put those ExpressJet RJs somewhere, and I suppose this was a nice shot. But realistically, I don't think the LAX market needs or can support yet another airline's mini-hub. LAX already has a hub (though admittedly not a big one) from United, plus mini-hubs for AA, Alaska and Southwest. Delta was just the fifth wheel at the party.

Delta should stick to their core strength - their hubs - and markets in which they can be more dynamically competitive. They should also stick to their international expansion strategy which, unlike some of the domestic flying (a la LAX), has been pretty successful: keep adding more and more flights to exotic locales where they face little to no meaningful competition, and print money. That should be their focus, not flying ExpressJet ERJs from LAX to SAN.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 29):
DL needs new mainline planes and they need them fast. There are so many cities in DL's network that could use more capacity, but it simply doesn't exist.

I'm not sure if more capacity is what they need. Fuel prices continue to climb, and Delta is finally beginning to show capacity restraint in lots of domestic markets, where other airlines have been contracting for the last 2-3 years. Airlines need ticket prices to rise - yesterday - and adding even more seats into the market isn't going to make that any easier. The legacies just need to sprint for the next few years and run down the clock until most of Southwest's fuel hedges go away, at which point fares will hopefully rise to actually reflect fuel prices and market conditions.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:12 pm

LAX-RDU is not showing in the res system after 1/7/08. That one looks like it's done.

EDIT:

It looks like LAX-CMH and LAX-RDU are coming back on 3/2/07. I can pull up availability again starting on that date.

[Edited 2007-12-08 04:14:49]
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:33 pm

Losing US mainline? That is not what I hear. There are daily mainline flights from LAS and PHX which have existed since the time that CMH was a hub for the old HP.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:54 pm



Quoting FlyCMH (Thread starter):
Delta will discontinue their 4x weekly 737-800 service between Columbus and Los Angeles in January.

Look for all Delta mainline to be gone sometime this year, along with American and USAirways mainline.

A certain new carrier in Columbus comes up a lot as far as reasoning for the airline cutbacks.

I thought they left years ago when they established their hub in CVG
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:52 pm



Quoting Commavia (Reply 31):
To me, the whole LAX experiment - which is increasingly looking like more and more like something between mediocre and a moderate failure - is a "symptom" of a larger issue with Delta: over the last few years, they have been continuing to add more and more capacity in lots and lots of places.

Tell that to the folks in Boston
Tell that to the folks in Dallas
Tell that to the folks in Cincinnati
Tell that to the folks in Fort Lauderdale
Tell that to the folks in Orlando
Tell that to the folks in Tampa
Tell that to the folks in Columbus
And the list goes on.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 31):
. They are growing and growing and growing, more so with regional flying than with mainline, but growing nonetheless. While others have been contracting and pulling more seats out of the market in the face of rising fuel prices and not-as-quickly-rising ticket prices, Delta has been adding seats.

A quick glance at the schedules that outside of LAX (until now), ATL, SLC and JFK shows that that is not the case. And even from those hubs many, many routes have seen capacity and flight cuts.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:03 pm



Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 35):
A quick glance at the schedules that outside of LAX (until now), ATL, SLC and JFK shows that that is not the case. And even from those hubs many, many routes have seen capacity and flight cuts.

Indeed.

In the last 4-6 months, Delta has slowed down the growth, and begun pairing back schedules in a lot of places. But over the last 18-24 months, Delta has been growing some of their DCI flying while fuel prices have continued to go up.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:08 pm



Quoting Commavia (Reply 31):
To me, the whole LAX experiment - which is increasingly looking like more and more like something between mediocre and a moderate failure - is a "symptom" of a larger issue with Delta: over the last few years, they have been continuing to add more and more capacity in lots and lots of places. They are growing and growing and growing, more so with regional flying than with mainline, but growing nonetheless.

Not really true. DL has shrunken significantly in the domestic market. DL today has about 25% less domestic capacity today than it did four years ago. Of course, they have added domestic capacity in a few spots notably JFK and LAX, but overall DL is shrinking domestically.

I will agree that DL has had a glut of RJ's which has led them to open a lot of routes that were almost doomed to fail..particularly with high fuel prices. And I will say this again, some of DL's LAX expansion might have survived if energy prices hadn't skyrocketed, but many new routes won't last with fuel as it is.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:13 pm

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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:13 pm



Quoting DL777LAX (Reply 18):
Possibly, however really, what market is there on a route like JAX-LAX, or CMH-LAX, or MFE? and LMM, where is that?

The problem with both CMH and JAX, I think, is that DL overestimated the number of people who would choose not to connect when the flights were not daily and had a fairly lousy schedule. I would guess that prior to the nonstop flights, DL was getting more than 50% of the traffic to LAX from both CMH and JAX (connecting mainly over CVG and ATL, respectively), so they knew what was there. But when the connections aren't hard and give travelers more flexibility and more miles, it's easy to overestimate the demand for nonstops.

Quoting DL777LAX (Reply 18):
and the quickest way to gain that is to simply go to the larger business markets first with larger aircraft and a schedule that suits a business traveler going to LAX.

I do think that DL had an idea what they were doing when they started some of the longer routes. They just miscalculated, and the escalating cost of fuel doesn't help any.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 22):
..do you mean mainline AA out of CMH? Besides a few flights to DFW, does AA fly any mainline out of CMH?

DFW is 4x S80/1x ERJ
ORD is 2x CR7/ 7x ERJ
STL is 4x ERJ (operated by CHQ)
LGA is 2x ER3
MIA is 2x ERJ

It's a decently large station for AA.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:20 pm



Quoting Neednewairport (Reply 33):
Losing US mainline? That is not what I hear. There are daily mainline flights from LAS and PHX which have existed since the time that CMH was a hub for the old HP.

US East metal is going away. The daily 733 flights to DCA & CLT aren't in the schedule much longer.

The ex-HP flights look to be sticking around.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 39):
DFW is 4x S80/1x ERJ
ORD is 2x CR7/ 7x ERJ
STL is 4x ERJ (operated by CHQ)
LGA is 2x ER3
MIA is 2x ERJ

It's a decently large station for AA.

Don't they fly to BOS & RDU as well on ERJs?
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:31 pm



Quoting Commavia (Reply 31):
Admirable for Delta to have given this little LAX mini-hub a shot.

DL's LAX hub is not going anywhere. In fact, the pilot base there will grow by 25% between now and Jun 08 with the addition of a 737-800 base.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:33 pm



Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 40):

Don't they fly to BOS & RDU as well on ERJs?

Yup, 1x to BOS and 2x to RDU... that's what I get for trying to think on a Saturday morning.

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 40):
US East metal is going away. The daily 733 flights to DCA & CLT aren't in the schedule much longer.

Both are discontinued January 4, but it appears that there will be a 733 running CLT-CMH-DCA with an RON in CMH beginning February 13/14.
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:16 pm



Quoting Commavia (Reply 36):
In the last 4-6 months, Delta has slowed down the growth, and begun pairing back schedules in a lot of places. But over the last 18-24 months, Delta has been growing some of their DCI flying while fuel prices have continued to go up.

And all the DCI growth was still nothing compared to the boatload of capacity DL cut on the mainline side in the domestic market. Remember that within these last 2 years, DL retired some 50 732s, 26 733s, pulled 9 763ERs off domestic markets and put them on internationals, and of course also now has pulled 13 764s off domestic routes as well. That's quite a load of capacity pulled out of the domestic network that even all the additional RJs couldn't compensate.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:43 pm



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23):
Any idea which ones?

CRP is one, there's two others that I don't recall immediately.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:54 pm



Quoting Surfdog75 (Reply 41):
DL's LAX hub is not going anywhere. In fact, the pilot base there will grow by 25% between now and Jun 08 with the addition of a 737-800 base.

When DL picks up the MD-90s look for the 738s from SLC to go to LAX
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:28 am



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 39):
DFW is 4x S80/1x ERJ

Goes to 3x S80/2x EMJ soon...

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 40):
Don't they fly to BOS & RDU as well on ERJs?

BOS goes 2x soon...
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:03 am

Sad to see loosing more mainline @ CMH.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 39):
LGA is 2x ER3

Thats actually 4x ER3, soon to be 5x daily.
 
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:51 pm



Quoting 44k (Reply 47):
Thats actually 4x ER3, soon to be 5x daily.

Man, I just screwed it up totally, didn't I?
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RE: Delta To Discontinue CMH-LAX In Jan. '08

Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:25 pm



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 45):

What is the latest on the China Southern MD-90's?

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