UA777lover
Topic Author
Posts: 130
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:39 pm

UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:51 am

I was wondering if there is anyway to find out which reg numbers are configured for domestic 2 class and which ones are for International 3 class? Was on a 2 class 767 today (ORD-SFO) but couldn't get the reg number. Next time!
Thanks
 
hamad
Posts: 731
Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2000 6:29 am

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:10 am

i might be wrong, but i know that 777-200 and 767-300's that are configured in a two class are mainly for domestic, meaning Hawaii routes. i might be wrong, but my neighbor is a United airlines flight attendant and he was making fun of united's domestic first class configuration to hawaii on the 777-200. so i asked him and he said that the configured widebodies with two class are for hawaii.
PHX - i miss spotting
 
RyanAFAMSP
Posts: 144
Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:24 pm

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:24 am

United has six 777-222ERs that operate as two class airplanes in the 36 and 312 configuration. They are N210UA-N215UA.

I believe there are 14 PW4056 powered 767-322ERs that operate as two-class airplanes. Someone else needs to chime in on the tail numbers, but I know they are the ships registered N664UA and higher - ending I believe in N677UA.

It has been a few years since I was a UA flight attendant and my manuals are waaay out of date at this point, but I loved working the back galley on those 2-class 777s on SFO-OGG and SFO-KOA back when we had 9 flight attendants in coach and the galley position was a dedicated galley. Even with 312 people in the back the staffing made the service go extremely smoothly.
 
Transpac787
Posts: 1349
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:47 pm

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:28 am

UA has 4x different subfleets of 777-

772A Domestic Config (6 total, tail# N210UA-N215UA)

772A Intl Euro Config (12 total, tail# N768UA-N781UA)

772ER Euro Config (16 total, tail# N782UA-N799UA)

772ER Asia Config (17 total, tail# N204UA, N206UA, N209UA, N216UA-N229UA)


Unfortunately I can't give you the exact tail numbers for the 763 2-cabin or 763 3-cabin fleets. However, as it is currently it's very easy to tell them apart. All 3-cabin 763's are in new colors, and all domestic 2-cabin 763's are in old colors. The only reconfigured 763 so far is fleet# 6447 (N647UA).

Quoting HAMAD (Reply 1):
i might be wrong, but i know that 777-200 and 767-300's that are configured in a two class are mainly for domestic, meaning Hawaii routes.

The 2-cabin 763's and 777's are most typically used on Hawaii as well as hub-to-hub routes.

Quoting RyanAFAMSP (Reply 2):
United has six 777-222ERs

No, they are 772A's......just 777-222. They were the last 772A's ordered by UA, and is why they have N2XXUA tail numbers as opposed to the typical N7XXUA tail numbers for the rest of the 772A fleet.
 
roseflyer
Posts: 9606
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:34 am

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:28 am

almost all domestic flights operated by 767s are the 2 class variety. I've found that non hawaii domestic 777 routes are usually 3 class. LAX/SFO/SEA to ORD have always been 3 class for me.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
 
Transpac787
Posts: 1349
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:47 pm

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:33 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 4):
almost all domestic flights operated by 767s are the 2 class variety.

Yes, except for ORD<>IAD. The 3-cabin 763's on inbound flights from Europe or South America then fly a domestic ORD<>IAD before taking out a Europe or South America outbound. If you check the flight schedule between O'Hare and Dulles in the afternoon, there are a ton of 763 3-cabins.

[Edited 2007-12-09 21:34:24]
 
SFOMB67
Posts: 371
Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:20 pm

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:49 am

The plane's configuration actually shows in the "nose #", which is the tail # except for the 2nd digit. I've been away too long to know the config numbers, but, for example: a 767 with the tail reg# N664U, might have a nose number 6264, which might mean it's config as 2 class domestic; or it might have a nose number of 6364, which might mean it's cofigured as a 3 class international. Remember these are hypothetical 2nd digits, as I don't know what they are anymore.
Not as easy as originally perceived
 
qfatwa
Posts: 496
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 1999 5:39 pm

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 9:42 am

I confirm RyanAFAMSP:

763 International N641UA-N663UA - all new colours

763 Domestic N664UA-N677UA - all old colours
 
UA772IAD
Posts: 1269
Joined: Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:43 am

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:37 am



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 3):

772ER Asia Config (17 total, tail# N204UA, N206UA, N209UA, N216UA-N229UA)

N204UA and N206UA are "Euro configs", plane no. 2904 and 2906. 209, 216-229 are Transpac configs with the pilot bunk aft of the cockpit and crew rest below the mid-cabin lavatories at doors 3L/3R

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 5):
Yes, except for ORD<>IAD. The 3-cabin 763's on inbound flights from Europe or South America then fly a domestic ORD<>IAD before taking out a Europe or South America outbound. If you check the flight schedule between O'Hare and Dulles in the afternoon, there are a ton of 763 3-cabins.

At least 1 SFO-IAD is also served by a 3 cabin 767. I believe its flights 871/872.

Quoting RyanAFAMSP (Reply 2):

I believe there are 14 PW4056 powered 767-322ERs that operate as two-class airplanes. Someone else needs to chime in on the tail numbers, but I know they are the ships registered N664UA and higher - ending I believe in N677UA.

Yes: 2 class are N664UA-N677UA
 
N1120A
Posts: 26468
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:40 pm

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:58 am



Quoting HAMAD (Reply 1):
i might be wrong, but i know that 777-200 and 767-300's that are configured in a two class are mainly for domestic, meaning Hawaii routes.

Not just Hawai'i, though they do a lot of their flying to Hawai'i

Quoting RyanAFAMSP (Reply 2):
United has six 777-222ERs that operate as two class airplanes in the 36 and 312 configuration. They are N210UA-N215UA.

The are 777-222, not -222ER.

Quoting RyanAFAMSP (Reply 2):

I believe there are 14 PW4056 powered 767-322ERs that operate as two-class airplanes.

Actually, the 2 class aircraft are PW4052, not PW4056 powered. The also have at least one tank removed and have significantly shorter range than the other 763ER aircraft in the fleet.

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 4):
I've found that non hawaii domestic 777 routes are usually 3 class.

Almost always. Likely due to aircraft repositioning and international connecting traffic.
Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
 
unitednrt
Posts: 261
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:43 am

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 2:49 pm



Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
Actually, the 2 class aircraft are PW4052, not PW4056 powered. The also have at least one tank removed and have significantly shorter range than the other 763ER aircraft in the fleet.

As of June 2007, all 14 B767-300ER in the subfleet -MD have PW4056-power. Check with OPBLP if questions.
"...That's a lovely name. My name's Milton; Milton Ettenheim, but my friends call me Bubbles."
 
Transpac787
Posts: 1349
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:47 pm

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:40 pm



Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 8):
N204UA and N206UA are "Euro configs", plane no. 2904 and 2906. 209, 216-229 are Transpac configs with the pilot bunk aft of the cockpit and crew rest below the mid-cabin lavatories at doors 3L/3R

Well I'll be damned!!! You are, indeed, correct. Do you know why 2904 and 2906 are in Euro config?

Quoting Sfomb67 (Reply 6):
might have a nose number 6264, which might mean it's config as 2 class domestic; or it might have a nose number of 6364

Unless something has changed recently, the fleet numbers are as such:

66XX- Domestic 2-cabin
63XX- International 3-cabin, old configuration. 10F/32C
64XX- International 3-cabin, new configuration. 6F/26C flat beds

Currently there is only one 64XX bird: 6447.
 
daron4000
Posts: 604
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:17 pm

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:50 pm

I thought the domestic 767's were 67xx?

Also, for 777's:

Domestic are 25xx
International XP are 26xx
Anything else is Atlantic config although it varies based on ER etc.
 
LAXintl
Posts: 20183
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: UA's 767/777 Fleet Configuration

Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:54 pm

Ok lets get this right.

767-300
63xx MZ F10C32Y151
64xx MI F6C26Y151
66xx MD F34Y210

777-200
23xx XC F12C49Y197
24xx XD F8C40Y220
25xx XA F36Y312
26xx XP F10C45Y198
27xx XQ F8C40Y221
28xx XJ F8C40Y220
29xx XI F12C49Y197

and while we are at it the 747-400
81xx OB F14C73Y260
84xx OC F12C52Y310
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California