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NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:21 am

Today's Detroit Free Press reproted that Northwest would be adding DTW, MSP, and Seattle on direct N/S routes to LHR next year. Equipment will be A330s.

The story also mentions that BA is dropping DTW-LHR in March 2008. Sad to see that; BA and BOAC operated that route for almost 40 years. My first trip overseas as a lad was with my father on a BOAC Super VC-10. Later, we made the trip on the then-new 747 "Jumbo Jet." At that time, only BOAC and Pan American flew overseas from DTW. End of an era.
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:33 am

NWA/KLM To Begin LHR-DTW/MSP/SEA (by B742 Dec 10 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:43 am



Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 1):

NWA/KLM To Begin LHR-DTW/MSP/SEA (by B742 Dec 10 2007 in Civil Aviation)

But BA dropping DTW is news to me. Oh well, DTW spotters, now you know how us SAN spotters feel... there goes your only daily 777 too!
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:50 am



Quoting San747 (Reply 2):


Quoting ChiGB1973 (Reply 1):

NWA/KLM To Begin LHR-DTW/MSP/SEA (by B742 Dec 10 2007 in Civil Aviation)

But BA dropping DTW is news to me. Oh well, DTW spotters, now you know how us SAN spotters feel... there goes your only daily 777 too!

Actually the route has been operated by a 763. So I guess DTW is losing its only daily 763 flight.
 
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:50 am

BA announced the dropping of DTW way back in late September. It is due to end the route with the start of the Summer 08 timetable.
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:02 am

Where is NW getting all this equipment? Are they cutting some of the AMS flights to start this?
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:15 am

This coincides with IAH-LHR beginning.
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:52 am

Yup BA news is old BA Withdraws From HRE And DTW! (by Lovinitflyboy Sep 19 2007 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:58 am



Quoting Indy (Reply 5):
Where is NW getting all this equipment? Are they cutting some of the AMS flights to start this?

NW currently has a bit of slack in its fleet usage of 333s and 747s. Just a matter of shuffling around (with some help by KLM).
 
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:58 pm



Quoting San747 (Reply 2):
But BA dropping DTW is news to me. Oh well, DTW spotters, now you know how us SAN spotters feel... there goes your only daily 777 too!

...............

Funny, I didn't know the 777 looked like a 763..

Only time it was a T7 was for things like the auto show..
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:27 pm



Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 9):
Funny, I didn't know the 777 looked like a 763..

Only time it was a T7 was for things like the auto show..



Quoting B752OS (Reply 3):
Actually the route has been operated by a 763. So I guess DTW is losing its only daily 763 flight.

OK, OK, my bad. Wasn't it at any point operated by a 777?
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:35 pm



Quoting San747 (Reply 10):
Wasn't it at any point operated by a 777?

during the summers leading up to 2005 it was a 772. It used to be a fairly common sight over my house.

It is unfortunate to no longer see my favorite plane here, but at least KL came very close to operating one here when they decided to return and might do so in the future (any day, KL). Afterall, BA's departure didn't surprise us.
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:51 pm



Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 9):
Funny, I didn't know the 777 looked like a 763..

Only time it was a T7 was for things like the auto show..

For people who look at Air Force planes, all airliners look the same. 767s and 777s are just big 737s.

BA cannot make DTW work, when it is the main hub for NW. Detroit people who want to connect to Europe can do it in Amsterdam, which is nicer than changing terminals at Heathrow on BA (until T5 opens.)


Do Star and Oneworld have many Frequent Flyers in the Detroit region? Do Detroit people still connect onto BA at gateway airports? - New York, Boston, Washington? If people from Detroit really like BA's inflight product that much they will still do connection.

I imaginge NW will want to build DTW-LHR up to better than daily frequency as slots become available. 0850 is a very early time to depart LHR. Good luck getting out to Heathrow for the Check In time.
 
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:01 am



Quoting San747 (Reply 2):
But BA dropping DTW is news to me

Late September they announced it.

Quoting Indy (Reply 5):
Where is NW getting all this equipment? Are they cutting some of the AMS flights to start this?

They have some slack, it would explain a bit why the 744 is returning to AMS next summer.

Quoting San747 (Reply 10):
OK, OK, my bad. Wasn't it at any point operated by a 777?

yes and even at one time it was operated by a 744.

Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 12):
I imaginge NW will want to build DTW-LHR up to better than daily frequency as slots become available. 0850 is a very early time to depart LHR. Good luck getting out to Heathrow for the Check In time.

Unfortunately it wasn't their choice. KLM had those slots and gave them to NW, the sharing revenue was nothing new as NW and KL already do so on TATL flights. The DTW departure i will say would suck, but the Seattle and Minneapolis flights are nice as it gives you a good portion of the day still. Interesting to note that the Seattle flight doesn't even leave Seattle until 10:05 pm (10:55 on Fridays) and arrives LHR at 4:15 pm (5:05 on Saturdays). Have fun adjusting your body clock to that!
 
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:47 am



Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 12):
Do Star and Oneworld have many Frequent Flyers in the Detroit region?

Oneworld does not seem to have too much of a reputation here, but seeing how successful LH is here, I'm sure they have some brand recognition in the area.

Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 12):
Do Detroit people still connect onto BA at gateway airports? - JFK/EWR, BOS, ORD, or IAD? If people from Detroit really like BA's inflight product that much they will still do a connection.

I guess they would. However most of the people I know that go to Europe from here fly on AF or NW and occasionally LH.
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:46 am



Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 6):
This coincides with IAH-LHR beginning.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but BA operated IAH-DTW-LHR, correct?
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:39 pm



Quoting Mcamargo (Reply 15):

yes, with terrible timings I might add
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:00 pm



Quoting Mcamargo (Reply 15):
Correct me if i'm wrong, but BA operated IAH-DTW-LHR, correct?

Yeah they did. IAH was the only thing keeping that flight alive. Now that BA can serve IAH-LHR nonstop, theres no reason for DTW.
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:13 pm



Quoting San747 (Reply 2):
Oh well, DTW spotters, now you know how us SAN spotters feel... there goes your only daily 777 too!

There 767 flight!  Silly
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RE: NW To Add, BA To Drop DTW-LHR

Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:29 pm

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/3742244/

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/3743528

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