albird87
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Strong Atlantic Winds Today?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:13 pm

Hey folks

Been montoring some flights across the atlantic today, particulary AA 57. It left kind of ontime and has been losing time throught the air!!
BA 207 is also 25 mins late today it looks like also. Are there some majorly strong wind shears today??
 
wilco737
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RE: Strong Atlantic Winds Today?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:17 pm

I just checked a website and it didnt look too bad to me! there are 2 jetstreams over the north atlantic with wind speeds up to 150knots. But usually you fly further north if flying towards the west to stay clear of that jetstream area...Towards the east you fly within those jetstreams to fly faster and save fuel... But today it doesnt look too bad...

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albird87
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RE: Strong Atlantic Winds Today?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:59 pm

Strange that.
I am flying upto MIA in a couple of hours to meet someone who is coming off AA 57 and i know they were going to have to wait for me as I am not due in till 4pm. However with these winds and the flight now due around 3:07 (rather than 2:20), they wont have to wait as long.
Just seemed to me to be very windy maybe!!
 
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RE: Strong Atlantic Winds Today?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:05 pm

Maybe the were flying a detour around the winds which makes the flight still longer, but still shorter than flying totally against the wind. We call it MTT (minimum time track). I guess that was the reason then... Flying pretty far in the north just to get away from the wind.
Had that about 2 weeks as well. Flew from EMA to ILN and we flew all the way north initally and then over Iceland and center Greenland and then pretty much south again to ILN. Was a detour of nearly 400NM, and 8hrs20mins flight time. But this was still less than flying the great circle track against the wind. There would've been a headwind up to 150knots. That would've taken a lot longer. So we flew the MTT and not the GC track  Wink

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mark787
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RE: Strong Atlantic Winds Today?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:28 pm

Im flying on IB 6253 tomorrow from MAD to JFK, I guess I should be expecting a long and bumpy ride. I checked the wind charts and noticed that the jetstream is shooting straight up north by the middle Atlanctic. I have been told by some folks that flying west bound on the North Atlantic during the winter can be rough, Is there any truth to this?
 
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RE: Strong Atlantic Winds Today?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:35 pm



Quoting Mark787 (Reply 4):
Is there any truth to this?

Yes and its never good to fly perpendicular to the jet! then it can get rough... And during wintertime the jetstreams are a bit stronger...
So it can get bumpy, but the airlines try to find a route which dont lead through areas of turbulence, but you cannot always avoid it!
Safe trip!

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mark787
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RE: Strong Atlantic Winds Today?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:41 pm

Thanks! I guess my wife won´t be having a good time on this flight, but then again, if she´s unhappy, then i´m sure I will be paying the price! Oh well, I hope that the airplane will be somewhat empty like it was on the eastbound flight.
 
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RE: Strong Atlantic Winds Today?

Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:44 pm



Quoting Mark787 (Reply 6):
I guess my wife won´t be having a good time on this flight, but then again, if she´s unhappy

No need to worry... just imagine you are on a boat sailing on the waves and then falling asleep and enjoy the flight... Big grin
Have a safe trip!

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