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Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Mon Aug 28, 2000 3:47 am

Airliners have come a long way the past 25yrs. What do all of you think it will be like the next 20-25 yrs? Will the A320's, A330's.737, 747,757 etc. still be flying? or does airbus and boeing have some radical new plans out there. What do you envision in the future?

RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Mon Aug 28, 2000 3:58 am

Two visions for me.

1st one : Back to the roots. Means, normal sized aircraft as used today.
Better for the passenger since more flights a day using smaller
aircrafts gives you better choices.

2nd one : Bigger aircrafts like the A3XX. Wouldn't be good. Would probably be cheaper for the airlines to have only one flight a day from XY - XZ than having 3 using a 767. Bad for the passenger.


RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Mon Aug 28, 2000 4:07 am

In 25 years, everyone will be riding on flying cows and pigs. Dogs will run the airlines.



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RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Mon Aug 28, 2000 9:44 am

I think that airliners will look much like they do today, but with more advanced cockpits and systems.
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RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Mon Aug 28, 2000 9:55 am

I'm going to post this although I may get yelled at a lot for this one.

In the next 25 years airplanes will fall down to space travel not to mars but like the same LAX - HKG only in less time.

I look at it like trains gave way to airplanes and airplanes will give way to space travel & the only airplanes that will be out there will be the few kinda like Amtrack that provide service if you want to have a relaxing time to your destination and then the whole cargo fleet of aircraft just hauling cargo.
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RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Mon Aug 28, 2000 10:39 am

1. Amtrak or similiar railroad companies will provide steamless connection from major airports to nearby cities and towns (up to 100 miles radius). But there will be more RJ doing the more feeding that Amtrak or railroads can't reach. Afterall, this is what's happening in Europe.

2. Airlines will go back to do more point to point flying instead of via hubs.


RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Mon Aug 28, 2000 10:51 am

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RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Mon Aug 28, 2000 1:18 pm

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RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Mon Aug 28, 2000 3:50 pm

The 737NG's and its NG derivatives, along withthe A32X family will still be around.

The 757? Not a chance. As freighters probably.

The 747/derivatives- definitely.

I also think the Russians are going to come up with a surprise in the SST category. Perhaps a 300 seater? Just watch!

I also foresee a Very Large Airliner, even bigger than the A3XX, (Perhaps a 100 seater, 2 class), used for shorter 2-4 hour flights.

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RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Tue Aug 29, 2000 3:31 am

I imagine this to happen in the 2020's when I'll be in my mid 50's:
I will take my children to an aviation museum where there will be an old American 767-200 hanged on the ceiling. I'll tell them: "You see that big silver airplane, it's a Boeing 767. I used to travel on that airplane a lot when I was young."
"Are those still flying?" My son will ask me.
"Yes" I will answer him "But it's an old plane, the airlines are getting rid of them. Boeing has made the 797 which is the successor to the 767. American has ordered a bunch of those".
"Dad, do you know that American is phasing out the 737-800?" My son will ask me. "Yes I know." I will answer him. "That one is over 25 years old, American is replacing those with brand new 737-1200's".
"Do they still have 757?" he asks.
"No, the 757, it's finished". I answer. "It's a very old plane. American and Delta just retired their last 757".
"Let's go home now. Mom is waiting for us."

I also imagine seeing on a desert old 767-300's, old 777's and old A340's resting.
Airbus will probably have made an A370: the successor to the A320.
The 747 will be what the DC-3 is today: a legendary aircraft in aviation history.
In 2034, American will celebrate it's 100th anniversary. Maybe by that time when I'll be an Executive Platinum with over 5 million miles, me and my wife will be invited to a party in do I know?

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RE: Airliners The Next 25 Years.

Tue Aug 29, 2000 4:56 am

Those of us who flew also 25 years ago will remember that things haven't really changed much. 25 years ago the sky was full of 707s, 727s, 737s, 747s, DC-8s, DC-9s, DC-10s, Tristars, One-Elevens, Tridents, VC-10s, Caravelles while CV-880/990s and Comets were being retired. A300 was the new plane while Concorde production had just been halted when #16 would be finished as a white-tail. Political battle over the Concorde's right to fly was singing on its last verse. Ten "development aircrafts" for the A320 had already been flying scheduled service for some years - with the name "Dassault Mercure" painted on them - they retired just before yesterday because they were too noisy like their similar aged 737-200 cousins.
The biggest difference from 25 years ago:
25 years ago we walked from the gate onto the tarmac and climbed the stairs to the airliner. After landing, the same in reverse order.
Today we walk from the gate onto the tarmac and enter a bus which in 15 minutes brings us to the airliner which is parked one or two miles away. And then we climb the stairs. After landing the same in reverse order. Because the airports have become more crowded.
What else has changed: The 30 years old Scandinavian DC-9s have been repainted a few times, and during one of these processes they lost the beautiful Viking ship dragon head up front. Shame on those painters!

What will happen during the next 25 years: Traffic will continue to grow fast until 2010, then stabilize on double compared to today. One or two new airliners will have been designed and built in numbers. The mega-hubs will have shrunk in importance. Traffic will be more point to point. The major developments will not be on the airliners, but in ATC procedures, opening the sky for much denser traffic. Anyway there will still be delays caused by traffic congestion. And: Scandinavian's A321s, which will now be 23 years old, have been repainted with dragon heads up front.
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Alliances, VLA Ruling

Tue Aug 29, 2000 5:02 am


There will probably be three or four large alliances ruling 90% of the air transport.
A lot of small aircraft flying point-to-point and A3XXs and 747Xs flying between hubs and large cities.

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Alain Mengus

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