Orion737
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KM Experience With AvroRJ70 And Need For RJ/prop?

Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:40 pm

I remember when Air Malta purchased a fleet of Avro RJ70s for its shorter routes which were not the most suited to airbus or Boeing equipment. They had them for a very short time, why were they phased out so soon? KM have lots of short routes like Catania/Palermo? and many routes could be better operated with an ATR72 to increase frequency develop new routes in North Africa which couldnt sustain the 319.
 
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RE: KM Experience With AvroRJ70 And Need For RJ/prop?

Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:03 pm

The problem was that KM was looking for an aircraft which showed as much commonality with the other types in its fleet at the time so that it would be easier to swap one type for the other. Anybody could have told them that that was not going to work but Avro was so eager to sell them the planes, they would have promised KM anything. However, the RJ proved uneconomical on many of the longer route, in addition to being not very well received at all by passengers.

I flew with one of those RJs from Malta to Zurich once. I was fortunate enough to get the window seat in the first row but even so the 2h15mins to ZRH were an ordeal!

At the time KM was also actively pursuing a strategy to turn Malta in to a mediterranean hub. Unfortunately though, the way they went about it made it clear very early on that they wouldn't succeed. Transfer times in Malta for some connection were ridiculously long, many of the flights either arrived or departed at the most unearthly hours and frequencies between some city pairs were limited in some cases to only one flight a few! Since then a lot of things have changed at KM and instead they appear to have retreated to being merely a point to point carrier connecting Malta to the rest of Europe. Perhaps it might have worked if they had been willing to invest in their fleet and infrastructure.
 
Orion737
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RE: KM Experience With AvroRJ70 And Need For RJ/prop?

Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:13 pm

Yes I think routes like Tunis, catania, Algiers, Tangier etc could all be operated with a smaller, more economical turboprop or regional jet.
 
vfw614
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RE: KM Experience With AvroRJ70 And Need For RJ/prop?

Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:28 pm

KM did not buy the RJ70 for shorter routes. They were ordered for long, thin routes serving regional charter markets in Germany, the UK etc. For that purpose, the aircraft were fitted with extra fuel tanks to give them the legs standard RJ70 do not have.
 
Orion737
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RE: KM Experience With AvroRJ70 And Need For RJ/prop?

Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:34 pm

Do KM have a need though for a turboprop or RJ for regional routes? im thinkiong increase in frequencies to Sicilly and opening routes to North African destinations as well as being more suited to Cairo and Larnaca, allowing an increase in frequency vs capacity?

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