Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 4:29 am


I recently had 2 747-200 flights with United. Both of them were on-time, we departed 10 mins before are take-off time. In my opinion, the 747-200 was a quiet and smooth plane. The reverse thrust on landing is very quiet. What are your stories and thoughts of this great airliner?



RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 4:34 am

My experiences are the same as yours basically. Both were like landing on cotton. By any chance were these flights to/from the Hawaiian Islands? Thats where all my 747-200 flights (2) have been from/gone to. Hopefully United will keep these planes for a while, as they are a delight to fly, despite their ages.

RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 4:35 am

I've flown it a couple fo times before on LH and I liked it.


Don't really remember about the sound but I ahd quite a lot of space in coach and enjoyed the flights.

Cheers, B737-700

RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 4:37 am

A real classic !!!
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RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 5:02 am

My favorite take off recently (3 yrs ago) on 747-200 was an Air New Zealand flight returning to LAX from Nadi Fiji via Honolulu. I remember it was a packed flight with every sort of person imagineable onboard. Women in Indian saris, a few men with Tongan grass skirts!, backpackers from Europe, the package tour set from Canada and US, + the Auckland Girls School Choir on their way from AKL to HNL for a festival. Pushed back on time at 9:00 pm on a very warm clear night. Plane seemed to take forever to get off the ground which worried me, but up we went taking off toward the South then immediatley making a very very sharp turn to the right to head north. The lights of Nadi and Lautoka towns now on our right side and I rememberthe moonlit night illuminating the main island of Vanua Levu then up past island of Viti Levu. I swear you could see the ripples in the water from the air, it was incredible. ANZ flts seemed to make these sharp turns though, noticed on my departures from HNL to NAN, NAN to HNL and HNL to LAX, but it was thrilling ride especially on the power of the 742!
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RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 5:17 am

Sorry, but I took a KLM 747-200 about 3 years ago, and it was as noisy as hell! On takeoff I started muttering "Our Father, who art in heaven...." as the cabin shook so noisily and the overhead compartments rattled as if I were sitting through an earthquake. Miraculously, the beast became airbourne, but I remember it being very noisy throughout the trip. I vowed never to take another 747-200, and since then only fly 744s. Other than being sometimes too crowdily configured, I like the 400s much better.

RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 5:23 am

The only reason most people like the 744 over the 742 is because its newer, and EVERYONE likes newer stuff. My dad flew world business class on a NW 742 from TPE to NRT in the upper deck (row 78) and he said that it was a quiet, nice flight. On the other hand, my parents flew a UA 741 ORD-SFO-HNL in economy and (according to them) it SUCKED!

RE: S777

Mon Aug 28, 2000 2:03 pm

Yes, they were SFO-HNL-SFO. Nice guess!
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UA 747-238

Mon Aug 28, 2000 2:20 pm

All of United's B747-238's will be retired by the end of this year 

RE: UA 747-238

Mon Aug 28, 2000 2:22 pm

Does United have any other kinds of 747-200's beside the -238???

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RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 3:10 pm

I've flown a total of 3 flights on 747-200's. The first time was with Pan Am in 1980 from IAH to JFK. I was only 7 years old, so I don't remember specifics of the flight. Then in 1989 I flew JFK-MXP and back FCO-JFK on TWA. I recall the plane being very shaky and rickety upon both landings, but the sheer size of the cabin amazed me. The fact that both flights were only about half full made it seem all the more roomy. It certainly is a great experience flying on the classic 747's.

Just as a side note, I was traveling to Italy with a group of other high schoolers from my county in Houston. We were sort of a county-wide all-star baseball team going to play some low level semi-pro men's teams from Italy on a tour set up by my H.S. coach. As I said, the flight over was about half full, and as night fell and most people were sleeping, we got to know a few girls who were headed to Italy on summer vacation. Well, needless to say, one of my buddies hooked up with one of the girls, they found their way to the back row, and MILE HIGH CLUB Baby! They had no shame! It was like a really bad porn show for all of us. We couldn't stop laughing, but they kept going, and my boy got a bunch of high fives afterwards. The chick just went back to her seat, and that was that! They didn't say one word to each other after. Luckily my coach was asleep the whole time, because my friend would have found himself on the first flight back home if he got caught. Oh, those high school days.

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RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 3:43 pm

I flew a 742 once. An AI flight from Bombay(BOM). It was the first time i was flying a Jumbo, as i usually get to travel by Airbus A300/310/320.

The take-off roll was frankly very dissapointing, as it seemed to take forever. The nose seemed to rise only a little, and the acft barely missed the outer perimeter fence, atleast it looked like that!

An off-duty AI pilot who was sitting next to me mumbled something about 'Ops screwing up again', whatever that meant, to explain the poor take-off performance. I was overall very dissapointed. I hope i fly one the 744's.

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RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Mon Aug 28, 2000 11:52 pm

Hi all !

I think 742 are excellent planes. I love very much to fly 742 !
I flew: KL 742 AMS-TLV I was supost to fly LY, but a strike in this airline bring me to KL. The plane was full, service and food regular, in coach seats are very small.
RG 742 FRA-GIG-FRA A really excellent flight, but long time ago (1989).
LY 001 TLV-JFK-TLV I flew this route two times. service: ok, food: regular, but in coach seats are to close.....
FF ?? TLV-JFK-TLV and TLV-ORY-TLV This flights was so bad!!! To full, to noise, to dirty, thanks god FF died!
IB 6841 MAD-EZE-MAD Service OK, food OK. Space: regular.
In total: 13 legs.
The plane was allways OK, not technical problems.
Manteinance is the problem. The FF 742 was dirty, no music (no sound at all!)
Also IB 742 loocks old.
I will fly IB 742 MAD-EZE-MAD, next month.

RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Tue Aug 29, 2000 3:14 am

When I flew on the fully loaded UA 747-200, and I mean fully packed, it's take-off roll was very impressive! I was sucked way into my seat and the take-off roll was short. The plane climbed better than the 737's I had been on the day before.



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RE: Your 747-200 Stories And Opinions...

Tue Aug 29, 2000 3:52 am

I was able to ride in the upper deck of an ex-Aerolinas Argentinas 747-200 that was being operated by Flying Tigers on behalf of the Military Airlift Command. The flight was between Oakland, CA and Kadena AB in Okinawa, Japan via Anchorage, AK back in December of 1984. The aircraft was still in full Aerolinas Argentinas colors with a small decal under the cockpit stating that the aircraft was owned and operated by Flying Tigers International.

I arrived at Oakland quite early (what airplane freak wouldn't have?) and jokingly asked the MAC agent at the ticket counter if there were any seats available in the upper deck. She made a quick check on her computer, told me there was one seat available and asked if I wanted it. I about fell over. I was only a lowly E-3 at the time on my way to my first overseas duty assignment in the USAF. I will never forget how intimidated I felt by all of the high ranking officers and super-grade civilians that were sitting up there with me. All of the seats were "First Class" and were laid out 2x2. I forgot about being nervous once we powered up, taxied out and started our takeoff roll. I could barely hear any engine noise at all, and that was soon drowned out by the sound of air rushing past the fuselage. Flying over the Rockies on the way to Anchorage was a view I will never forget. Landing at Anchorage while sitting in the upper deck was quite a treat as well. We stayed back in our seats for what seemed like quite a long time after the main gear touched the ground. Then we got to take off all over again! It was dark until just about an hour before landing and we were treated to some excellent views of Japan below.

Interesting note: Those of us in the upper deck deplaned first at Anchorage and were the last ones back on board. While we were gone they went through and completely cleaned the upper deck (I'm sure that no one went near the all "Y" class ghetto on the main deck.) The FA wasn't going to let me climb back up the spiral staircase to my seat until I showed her my boarding pass. Because of my lowly rank she thought that I was trying to crash the party.

The Flying Tiger service was average. Most of the FA's were quite "long in the tooth" but were fairly pleasant. There was one assigned to the upper deck who was quite grandmotherly and she sat and hooked a rug in her jumpseat while not busy tending to us.

I was so jazzed when we arrived at Kadena AB and was dying to talk about my trip but there was no one there who understood what a once in a lifetime adventure this had been. It is a wonderful memory that I will never forget as long as I live.