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sammyk
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JetBlue To MSY Or Lft?

Tue Aug 29, 2000 7:26 pm

Hey all you JetBlue experts, do you know if they will start service to MSY or LFT anytime soon? Is it in their future plans? If so, how far into the future? Thanks.

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RE: JetBlue To MSY Or Lft?

Tue Aug 29, 2000 7:59 pm

I checked out the jetBlue web site for that same question. I wrote them an email and they said that they have planed to expand their routes over the next 4 years. Every 5 weeks they will announce a new detstination city. I'm not sure about MSY or LFT, but some I can recall are: Atlanta, Richmond,Rochester. Well anyway theres many more.Write the company an email, theyll tell you whats up.
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RE: JetBlue To MSY Or Lft?

Tue Aug 29, 2000 8:44 pm

I think that one of our forum members got an email from them hinting that PIT would be their next stop.

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RE: JetBlue To MSY Or Lft?

Wed Aug 30, 2000 12:15 am

MSY is one of the cities that Jet Blue plans to serve. This will probably not happen soon, but it will down the road a bit. When Jet Blue adds JFK-MSY service, it will surely spell the demise for TWA's nonstop JFK-MSY flight.

Stephen in MSY
 
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RE: JetBlue /TWA

Wed Aug 30, 2000 12:31 am

' When Jet Blue adds JFK-MSY service, it will surely spell the demise for TWA's nonstop JFK-MSY flight. '

Not so fast! The JFK-MSY flight is doing well, and just because JetBlue competes on a route, it doesn't mean TWA will pull out. As an example: in spite of Blue's MCO service, TWA will upgrade one of the JFK-MCO flights to B767 widebody service this fall.
And with regard to MSY: Keep in mind that TWA has still plans for at least two more focus cities. It so happens that there have been rumors of a 6th STL-MSY flight recently, LGA-MSY, and ...

Stay tuned!

 
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RE: JetBlue To MSY Or Lft?

Wed Aug 30, 2000 12:37 am

"When Jet Blue adds JFK-MSY service, it will surely spell the demise for TWA's nonstop JFK-MSY flight."

What are you talking about??!! TWA won't stop the service b/c they have something JetBlue dosen't: Trans-atlantic connections.
 
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RE: JetBlue To MSY Or Lft?

Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:39 am

Well I sure hope TWA keeps the flight. I think the new tag-on section to SAT is doing pretty good so far.....averaging about 50 people boarding in MSY nightly if I recall. That's much better than MEX did. Also, I think MSY would make a good focus city. At the very least, TWA should add another STL flight.

Stephen in MSY
 
Tom in NO
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RE: JetBlue To MSY Or Lft?

Wed Aug 30, 2000 8:30 am

Comments from an 13 1/2 year-MSY owner/operator employee:

1) Jet Blue does intend to serve MSY in the future. It was on their list of the first 20-odd destinations they wished to serve.

2) LFT (Lafayette, LA) is not on the list. LFT is having trouble supporting it's jet routes to IAH, to JFK-LFT is very much wishful thinking.

3) TWA's MSY-JFK route is here to stay for the simple reason of the trans-Atlantic connection.

4) As for TWA's MSY-SAT run, it was re-started to provide TWA with some more originating traffic to run throught the JFK hub, without having to utilize a 2nd airplane on a nonstop SAT-JFK route.

Tom in NO (at MSY)
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RE: JetBlue To MSY Or Lft?

Wed Aug 30, 2000 11:02 pm

Tom, what are your thoughts on that MSY-SAT route? Is it worth it, or should TW just turn the aircraft around and get a higher frequency on MSY-JFK routes. What do they do now? twice daily?

This all kind of reminds me of my TW/B6 codeshare argument. TW doesn't make money on any of its domestic routes of JFK I'm pretty sure. They're mostly all breakeven and now with JstBlue plunging fares on FLL, PBI, MCO, and TPA routes it must still be difficult for them. They should instead place the TW code on Blue's domestic service (TW passnegers will be presently surprised with that airlines' level of service) and Blue could also place its code on TW transAtlantic and Carribean flights. TW would have to upgrade its flights though with the PTV and give Terminal 5 an upgrade but I think it would work.
 
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RE: TWAneedsNohelp

Thu Aug 31, 2000 4:23 am

TWAneedsNOhelp:

I'm not sure how much traffic TWA is generating on either the MSY-SAT evening flight or the SAT-MSY morning flight, but it seems to me that there are 2 schools of thought:

1) There is probably not enough local traffic in either MSY or SAT to support a flight from each to JFK. Which is obviously why they combine the two.

2) Your argument as to the financial viability of the domestic JFK routes makes total sense to me. They probably do break even at best, but what I would wonder is what would happen to the profitability of the various trans-Atlantic routes if they pulled the domestic JFK flights. Being that the domestic flights feed the int'l ones at JFK, I can't see the int'l flights staying profitable. All TWA would be left with internationally would be the local New York market.

As to TWA's MSY-JFK service, they run just the one noonish nonstop, and the return flight flight comes in during the evening.

I'm not sure that a sole MSY-SAT flight makes financial sense, but tag it onto the JFK flight, and it may just work.

A hookup with JetBlue at some point in the future makes good sense to me. With JetBlue's ambitious plans for the future, considering their success of today, TWA would be smart to investigate the possibilities.

Tom in NO (at MSY)
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