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Thu Aug 31, 2000 10:25 pm

I was at Kennedy Airport last night at Terminal 1, and saw numerous Delta 767s and 757s, sporting any one of the 3 liveries currently in Delta's menagerie. I noticed in a few cases, that the livery on the nose was not congruent with the livery on the body. For example, a "new" colored 767 still had a black nose.
I've seen this before as well (British Airways, Lufthansa).
I was wondering why this is so? Are the noses painted at a different time from the rest of the aircraft?


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Thu Aug 31, 2000 10:28 pm

I'm not sure, but I think that the nose can be switched for others(I am probably wrong here). It also happens to TWs aircraft, and I saw it on a US MD80 once.
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RE: Delta

Fri Sep 01, 2000 1:21 am

I agree with lowfareair. I photographed a USair 737 once with a different color nose. Very strange.

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Fri Sep 01, 2000 1:22 am

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, the radome piece cannot just be painted over, but has to have some degree of tech. certification due to the equipment inside. (Just as the rudder on some aircraft has to be re-balanced every few paintings.)

Consequently, they have to use radomes that are cleared to go. These might not always be in the livery you're working on if you have three out there.
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Fri Sep 01, 2000 1:29 am

I just flew a 757 from DTW-ATL and the 'plane was in the "old old" colors and the radome was in the "new old" colors. I think this has something to do with the radome cant be painted in typical fuselage paint, it needs special paints so it doesnt interfere with the radar inside, or weaken the radome.
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Fri Sep 01, 2000 2:01 am

Radomes are made from composite material. Behind the radome is the weather radar antenna. There can be no metal in front of the antenna or it would not work. The maintenance manual is very strict on the amount of damage a radome can have, for obvious reasons. Usually just a few paint chips, anything else and it is replaced. A airliner will have many, many radome changes throughout its life. So they usually come out of the box already painted.
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RE: Delta

Fri Sep 01, 2000 10:03 pm

I've seen Delta 727s with the old-old paint scheme yet the engines having the old-new (or is it new-old--heck, it's the non-DeltaFlot) paint scheme.

This was about a year ago at DCA.
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Fri Sep 01, 2000 10:32 pm

My last flight on a Delta 762 was in the old-old livery with a white radome... Maybe that means they are going to paint it soon in the new-new scheme!
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Sat Sep 02, 2000 4:12 am

Hello Jt8djet,

Would you know of often the noses are changed on average?
How much does one piece cost?

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Sat Sep 02, 2000 5:30 am

It is hard to say how long a radome will last. It could be years or it could be days. A bird strike could do alot of damage, a lighting strike could put a pinhole in the radome. Day to day wear and tear can cause the paint to chip, erode, or the fiberglass to delaminate.
As part of the pilots or mechanics walk-around, the radome is allways carefully looked at. As mechanics, we don't repair the radome in the field. We replace it and it will be sent to a repair shop and they will determine if it is repairable.
As for the cost, I really don't know, but I am sure it is expensive.