Greeneyes53787
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Damage From Thunderheads

Sat Sep 02, 2000 6:27 am

Long in the past I read about a 707 that flew through a thunderhead cloud with all its turbulent air and landed with an amazing looking wing. I remember seeing a photo of it. One side of the wing (or one wing) was bent up about 12-feet (TWELVE FEET).

It landed, and I believe no pax were killed. I remember this vividly.

I suppose if it were full of fuel and cargo it could have been heavy enough to cause a lot of wing loading, but I cannot imagine this kind of damage without dead people inside the craft. The Gs must have been great. 707 wings are strong.

Please feel free to comment on this story. But I would like to hear from you. What similar stories do you have on in-flight damage caused by the weather?

Please feel free to comment on this story. But I would like to hear from you. What similar stories do you have on in-flight damage caused by the weather?

GE

 
Big777jet
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RE: Damage From Thunderheads

Sat Sep 02, 2000 8:29 am

Long time ago, I saw the picture of inside passenger's window took picture of 707's right wing with half wing! The Pan Am flew from SFO to HNL. The # 4 engine exploded and tore off the wing over San Francisco after take off. The 707 captain said to co-pilot, "Don't panic and pretend that we are test flight." He's very calmy and emergency landing at Travis Air Force Base without any problem! No one was killed or injured on ground. The engine fell off from 707 went through the alley in SF. They're very lucky that day for Pan Am!! Whoa!!!!!

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Greeneyes53787
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RE: Damage From Thunderheads

Sat Sep 02, 2000 8:37 am

Big777jet,
I believe I remember this. I didn't remember all of it. I just remember a 707 losing a whole engine--and the engine hitting the ground.

When a pilot says to the ground controller "we've lost an engine," he usually means that the engine flamed out (shut off). But this time he meant that the engine fell off...

Thanks for the story.

GE
 
Tom in NO
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RE: Damage From Thunderheads

Sat Sep 02, 2000 8:56 am

Th ironic thing about the Pan Am 707 wing story mentioned by 'Big777jet', is that the replacement 707 that Pan Am sent to Travis AFB had problems of its own.....the nose gear collapsed on landing at Travis while coming to get the original pax.

Tom in NO (at MSY)
"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
 
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RE: Damage From Thunderheads

Sat Sep 02, 2000 9:33 am

Anyone know about this accident? It was a Northwest Orient 720. It crashed in Florida in 1963:

"The aircraft crashed after penetrating a severe thunderstorm cell. While attempting to pull out of a turbulence-induced dive, the aircraft broke apart due to excessive g-forces."

What exactly happened here, in more detail than above?

 
N202PA
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RE: Damage From Thunderheads

Sat Sep 02, 2000 12:33 pm

Check out this link for more information on the crash of NW 705:

http://www.crashpages.com/reports/ayers/705.shtml
 
killjoy
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Damage From Hail

Sat Sep 02, 2000 3:52 pm

The topic is thunderheads, but I don't see why I couldn't mention other types of weather disturbances too.

This is quoted from www.surf.to/md80:

"9 Aug 1997 ALICANTE, SPAIN Finnair MD83 from Helsinki, Finland to Alicante, Spain with 156 pax was hit by hail-storm when descending through 29,000 ft. Windshield cracked and nose radome was damaged beyond repair. Landing uneventful, no casualties."

Must have been pretty bad since it managed to crack the windshield. I can't imagine what could've happened if it had managed to brake it completely, thus allowing the hails to hit the crew...

If I remember correctly, there was also severe damage to the leading edges of the wings.
 
Greeneyes53787
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RE: Damage From Thunderheads

Sun Sep 03, 2000 6:28 am

I read a book lately by a pilot with funny stories to tell. One of them was an 880 story. He landed on a wet day during winter. The plane landed perfectly--as smooth as silk. Then a passenger of another flight, I recall, asked the pilot if that ice caused any trouble. The 880 pilot said, "what ice?

The man walked the pilot toward the tail and pointed at a piece of ice about the size of a barn door, and twice as thick, covering the vertical stabilizer.

Then in the book the writer (the pilot) stated that with enough power I suppose you could fly a barn door.

GE

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