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Bye Bye AR

Sun Sep 10, 2000 8:29 pm


Hi every one,

IB will stop code sharing with AR next Oct. 5, 2000.
The IB office in TLV receive this news today.
So? Whats next?
C U, Ido
 
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RE: Bye Bye AR

Sun Sep 10, 2000 9:02 pm


Wow, now that is tough for AR.
Do they have any other partners in Europe that could fill their planes in Madrid, etc. ?

B737-700

 
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RE: Bye Bye AR

Sun Sep 10, 2000 9:35 pm

I think that might be because AR are starting to fly themselves to older routes which they previously abandoned.

They have been advertising in UK papers flights via MAD for £404rtn. I emailed their London office, and they confirmed they had re-started flying 747's to LHR.

The fact is, that that is quite a cheap price, but not cheap enough to switch me from flying BA non-stop. I fly BA for approx. £550rtn, and am prepared to pay more, as I will not risk flying AR again.
 
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Capt.Picard

Sun Sep 10, 2000 10:46 pm

Hello,

What are these routes please?

Thank you,

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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RE: Bye Bye AR

Sun Sep 10, 2000 11:13 pm

Hi Alain,
Without looking into their website http://www.aerolineas.com.ar

They're new European routes are LHR, CDG, MXP in addition to MAD, perhaps FRA?

Most relatives flying to Argentina for holidays will fly a European airline though.

EDIT: Just got this from their website: Paris, Zurich, Frankfurt, Amsterdam are old routes which have been re-introduced. The addition seems strange given AR's financial problems.

Reino Unido
      Londres, LHR, London Heathrow Airport
Francia
      París, CDG, Charles de Gaulle
España
      Madrid, MAD, Barajas
Italia
      Roma, FCO, Leonardo Da Vinci - Aeroporto Di Fiumicino
      Milan, MXP, Malpensa.
Suiza
      Zurich, ZRH, Zurich International Airport
Alemania
      Frankfurt, FRA, Frankfurt International Airport
Holanda
      Amsterdam, AMS, Schiphol
 
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RE: Bye Bye AR

Sun Sep 10, 2000 11:25 pm

are these routes being flown by 747s? now that AR has gotten some money from the gov't, can we expect to see the re-order of next generation A340s? i have flown on an AR 747 recently and it was an experience i would never forget. it was such an experience that i will never fly AR ever again.

the problem with AR is that the pride filled argentines would rather fly BA instead of their home carrier. how many americans would choose cubana over american?

AR needs help, and these new routes aren't going to give it.


Reino Unido
Londres, LHR, London Heathrow Airport
fly british airways

Francia
París, CDG, Charles de Gaulle
fly air france

España
Madrid, MAD, Barajas
fly iberia

Italia
Roma, FCO, Leonardo Da Vinci - Aeroporto Di Fiumicino
Milan, MXP, Malpensa.
Suiza
fly alitalia

Zurich, ZRH, Zurich International Airport
Alemania
Frankfurt, FRA, Frankfurt International Airport
fly luftansa

Holanda
Amsterdam, AMS, Schiphol
fly KLM

i would choose any of those airlines over AR, and if i had to fly a southamerican airway, i would choose LAN or even Varig. the extra stop would be worth it
 
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RE: Bye Bye AR

Mon Sep 11, 2000 12:31 am



Hello,


As far as I know, they haven't re-started all those routes to Europe. They have always advertised that they fly to London, Paris, Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Milan, Zurich and so forth. The fact is that AR serves all these destinations through IB's codeshare.

Iberia's management decided to cut all of these european destinations so that AR would feed IB at Madrid. AR just re-initiated their, Buenos Aires-Lima-Los Angeles route which was originally to be offered thrice weekly but now has been changed to daily A340 service.


Best regards,

Apollo Diaz
Pan Am - The World's Most Experienced Airline.
 
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RE: Bye Bye AR

Mon Sep 11, 2000 12:43 am

Latinplane;

The AR office said flights into LHR are a reality, the first flight (Sep 30) (AR 1171, 747) leaves LHR for EZE at 1845 local, arriving at EZE at 0855 local.

AR 1171 will operate on Mondays, Wednesdays and Saturdays.

The code-share with IB is now over, at least to LHR. This means the other rumours are likely to be true.

As I said, this seems strange, given AR's economic situation.

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