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Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Mon Sep 18, 2000 11:56 am

I remember reading and hearing of a news story eight months ago about Fox television wanting to buy a retired "boneyard" Boeing 747-100, hire two pilots and one flight engineer to fly it up to 10,000 feet, bail out and have cameras record its descent and eventual crash. Never heard anything more about it, though. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Mon Sep 18, 2000 12:03 pm

I don't know, it is really possible? I mean, normal sky diving bails out at less than 5000 feet. And you'll need to have the plane decompressed to open the doors...

More info please?

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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Mon Sep 18, 2000 12:06 pm

The FAA did this with an old 720 years ago. They did have the thing remotely controled and I would hope that the media would do the same. But then of course when's the media so intelligent?
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Mon Sep 18, 2000 12:09 pm

Doesn't that creat a slight safety problem? I wouldn't want to be anywhere near a flying 747 with no one in it. I saw on a video once the FAA (or maybe NTSB, or some agency) took a old 707 and made it a remote controlled plane with a pilot flying from the ground. They should do that with the 741.
 
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RE: Opps

Mon Sep 18, 2000 12:11 pm

Didn't mean to post about the same thing as okforall, I didn't see his post when I posted mine.
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Mon Sep 18, 2000 12:19 pm

Ah yes, I remember
this topic being discussed alot in the forum. Well what I believe happened was Fox wanted to do it as a stunt, plus they said it would be helpful for scientic study and so on. The FAA did not agree (probably did the right thing) and disallowed it. If I remember right most of the people in the forum that talked about this topic agreed in saying it was all about the ratings and not anything else. I also believe they were going to use a CV990 maybe instead of the 747??? (someone help me) But as far as I know now the project is not going to happen unless something new or modified has come up lately.

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RE: Opps

Mon Sep 18, 2000 12:19 pm

I thought they wanted to use a CV880.
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Mon Sep 18, 2000 7:30 pm

This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
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Try This One!

Mon Sep 18, 2000 7:34 pm

This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Tue Sep 19, 2000 10:51 am

For what it's worth, I think it is a stupid idea. I would hate to see a vintage 747 or CV 880 destroyed deliberately. Leave it to FOX to do something that stupid.  
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Tue Sep 19, 2000 11:03 am

You don't make sense arsehole
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Tue Sep 19, 2000 11:20 am

More of the incessant mindless dribble fed to Americans by FOX.
I can see it now:
"When 'Planes Crash IV!!!"
Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Tue Sep 19, 2000 1:20 pm

"When good flights go bad..."  
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Tue Sep 19, 2000 2:48 pm

I think they (Fox) opted out of it because of the logistics. And to B767-400'er, I've jumped out of airplanes from as high as 13,000ft, so they could easily bail at 10,000, but the decompression issue is different.
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Wed Sep 20, 2000 12:10 am

I'm not sure what the big deal would be for such a video clip. Think about it; we pretty much saw the view from a 'crashing plane' during the Gulf War. Remember the shots from the cruise-missles? The ground comes quickly, then the video goes out. I suspect Foxes footage would be very similar. Seems like an awful lot of trouble to go through to get footage you could get from a military drone. I remember the 720 FAA test crash (if it was the one where they were testing a fire-retardant fuel additive and crash-test dummies.) That was very interesting. Particularly the shot of the interior during the crash. Call me a mindless American, but I am intrigued by exterior footage of test crashes of vehicles and airplanes, especially in super slow-motion. The energy and physics of such a crash is absolutely fascinating.
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Wed Sep 20, 2000 3:54 am

For what reason would the FOX Network need to crash such a beautiful jet like the 747? This is another reason why me and millions of other people have such dis-taste for the media!
As an airliner enthusiest, I do not find crashing a 747 entertaining!
This is all a bunch of sensationalism by the media to get travelers in a panic!
Bring back the Concorde
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Wed Sep 20, 2000 4:09 am

I don´t think that Boeing would be too happy about seeing their milestone-setting 747 beeing missused in a respectless way like that.
Pictures of a downgoing Boeing could leave negative impressions to many viewers, even if the show-producers make clear that it´s " just for fun ".
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Wed Sep 20, 2000 4:11 am

Fox was going to crash a CV880. I was livid when I found out that they were going to destroy a CV880 that could actually fly, one that could be preserved or restored. I believe that in addition to FAA concerns there was an issue with the private property the crash would occur on and the haz-mat delima faced when a large aircraft crashes. It was a combination of these concerns that caused FOX to cancel this ill-conceived event. Dont let them make you think for a second there was any legitimate scientific reason to crash a classic jetliner that bears little similarity to any modern, flying commercial airplane in technology or construction.
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Wed Sep 20, 2000 4:11 am

FOX TV stupidness is going on again. What's entertaining in crashing an aircraft? This really shows the decadence of some of the American media. Of course the Joe's and Josephine's will sure find it fun to watch, but this is totally stupid for grown-ups. What's next then? They'll buy 2 trains and make them collide together just ``to see how it looks``....stupid B.S!

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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Wed Sep 20, 2000 5:35 am

Ah.. but if you were to have that show.. first you'd have a bunch of other airplanes (Airbuses to make this more exciting) trying "Who wants to marry a Boeing 747-100?"

But then.... since they're so different... the Airbus would divorce cause she thought the Boeing 747-100 was the 747-400, and it wasn't enough for her... so then you could crash the plane.  
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Wed Sep 20, 2000 9:14 am

As others have already mentioned, this whole discussion went through its course a year ago in at least two different threads when it was in the news.

It has been out of the news ever since.

I remember I had a debate with someone, about how or if, the pilots could actually make a safe egress from this plane. I maintained that the stunt was never a serious proposition simply because the idiots at Fox never thought about the logistics of safely jumping out of an airliner without using a rear stairwell. More problematic, was how to make sure that, with no one left to fly the plane, the plane would indeed crash where they wanted it to. That was the real trick to this stunt. The FAA said no for a hundred good reasons. But that was surely the best reason of all.

As far as the rant about the media, well, this is not the media proposing this. It is a television network that got rich by selling just this kind of low-brow fare to the public who, it must be noted, consume it voraciously. And with the huge success of Survivor, we know just how much we love this garbage. They give us what we love. Then we hate them for it. We know its bad and we feel guilty for watching it. So then we scold them for bringing it to us.

There is hardly a person here who can honestly say that they have not watched Fox's programs about car chases, shoot-outs, dumbass criminals, cheating employees, hurricanes, tornadoes, explosive demolitions, floods, mud slides, or unscheduled plane crashes. (actually TLC is worse.) And as much as we all say that crashing a plane for the purpose of entertainment is unconscientiable, there is also hardly a person here who wouldn't watch it if it came to that. No matter what they say.

Am I opposed to the crashing of a plane for the commercial gain of selling smut to a voyeuristic public? Yes. But would I watch it if they did it?

No. I don't have cable.

A presume a plane crash is similar to a train wreck. And we all know what they say about train wrecks.

Hmmmm...

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That's The FOX Network For Ya

Wed Sep 20, 2000 9:35 am

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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Wed Sep 20, 2000 10:12 am

It takes 10 monkeys, 10 typewriters and 10 days to hammer out a FOX special.
(What the heck does FOX stand for anyway???)
I refuse to watch those specials they do.
Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Wed Sep 20, 2000 4:14 pm

The Onion (satiric) newspaper did a spot-on parody of television schedules a year or so ago, and the one of the mock Fox shows that killed me was a show called "America's Funniest Nutsack Whompings", that pretty much sums it up.

I love "The Simpsons" and "X-Files" and a few other Fox shows, even "Cops" has its vicarious moments but when it comes to "reality" programming, they've hit rock bottom and have started to dig.
 
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RE: Fox T.V.'s Deliberate Crashing Of A Boeing 747-100

Thu Sep 21, 2000 2:11 am

FOX TV SUCKS! ! ! ! ! !

     

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