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Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 4:58 am

(feeling chatty today)

What do you guys think are the Worst, most putrid liveries of the jet age? Why? Extra credit: What is the worst livery change? (I.E. old United = Good, New United = Bad) Discuss.

Personally, I think the most teeth-grindingly bad livery was USAir II, the blue and red one, with that 50s cereal-package font, the haphazard, CFO-doodled-it-on-a-napkin tail (USair and some red lines) and crusty cheatline. Visual vomit.

For part II, i'd say Aeroflot's switch to the new "roller rink:" cs on its western aircraft. Yeech.
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:08 am

What the heck you are talking about? US Airways looks wonderful !!! Come on man...


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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:09 am

I happen to disagree with you on UAL colors. I think the update was much needed. I also think the time for another update might be drawing near.

I think an example of an awesome color switch was Air Canada. Yeah, so I'm a little biased, but I think they went from good colors to awesome colors.

Good to bad would have to be Delta's switch from new-old livery, which looked stunning on the 777, to new-new, which looks like Aeroflot's western livery.

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:10 am

No, Nicolaki, the scheme BEFORE that!
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:11 am

The UAL thing was just an example to illustrate my point. I agree that the new C/s is better than the old. Except for the striped tail.
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:12 am

Ahhhhh.....Before LOL, Then I have to agree with ya   LOL
 
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:13 am


Where to begin with this one?

The latest Delta scheme has to be the one of the worst ever created

The new United sucks too.

The new Egyptair. Blech.

The new AirEuropa. Yawn

The old NW. Thank god they changed it!!!
 
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:15 am

Buzz, the KLM low fare outfit is horrible. Any of the USAir efforts prior to the current one (so I agree with LHMark) are dismal. Dirty, unpainted old-scheme TWA planes, and there are too many still around, are dire also, especially when compared to the current classy livery.

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:19 am

I'm not sure yet if the new SAS is an improvement over the older version...I thought it was fairly clever (the color sash representing the countries).
 
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:21 am

Personally I think Southwest scheme is the ugliest in the US. I know those colors are supposed to represent the desert sunset but to me it just looks like every plane is strait out of the 70's. It pretty sad to look at a brand new 737-700 and think its 30 years old because of its out dated scheme. I would pick the reds,orange, and yellows still but put them in a up to date style.. Perhaps give them a logo on there planes too.

Here, I did this a while back but it explains what I mean...

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 5:21 am

I think that the Central American airlines did a good job by changing their "weird" liveries to the more serious Grupo Taca colors.

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 6:24 am

Air France should consider changing their livery. It's looking a little old now. UAL's old livery was ugly, and so was CO's old livery.
 
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 7:35 am

Come on folks! ! !
We should admire an airline for being different. I use to hate Southwest Airlines livery. Now I like it because it looks like something from the 1970s. It reminds me of a time when airlines had much better service. Most airliners now-days are going to the all white liverys with a little design on the tail. That is so un-original and boring!

I respect American Airlines for keeping the same liverys for over 30years.

I respect Southwest for being different. Its still an ugly plan.  

The best would have to be Olympic and KLM.


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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 7:42 am

At first, by looking at the topic, I thought this was going to be about one more of those bad Fox network specials....hahaha- I can see it now:
"Sunday, Nine/Eight Central: When Good Airlines Go Bad, Fox's new special on airline color schemes..." Maybe not.  
 
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 11:19 am

My rundown on the U.S. carriers' livery changes:

UNITED
old = great.
new = vulgar. drab & depressing

AMERICAN
great. Keep the silver. Please don't change yet.

DELTA
old = great
old new = great update
new new = a severe embarrassment to U.S. airlines

NORTHWEST
old = ok
new = a little better (much better for certain aircraft)

CONTINENTAL
old = atrocious
new = 100% better. Great!

USAIRWAYS
old ('70s) = atrocious
old ('80s) = still atrocious
new (now) = outstanding!

TWA
old = awful
new = 100% better. Excellent!

AMERICA WEST
old = awful
new = much better

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Foreign carriers......

BRITISH AIRWAYS
old = outstanding
world themes = awful
new = bad

SAS
old = ok
new = much better

ICELANDAIR
old = ok
new = outstanding!

FINNAIR
old = great
new = great too

EL AL
old = awful
new = wonderful

EGYPTAIR
old = awful
new = better

SOUTH AFRICAN
old = ok
new = outstanding

BWIA
old = awful
new = even worse!!! vulgar!

VARIG
old = ok
new = excellent

CATHAY PACIFIC
old = hideous
new = great

KOREAN
old = awful
new = outstanding

CHINA AIRLINES
old = awful
new = great




 
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 11:28 am

RyeAir, I've got to say your scheme is quite striking but I don't think Southwest will ever go with the predominant c/s (like right now, mostly white). I think if they used brighter colors it would look better though... and I agree that especially their -200s look downright dirty. (we get a lot of those at CLE.)

I wonder if the person who came up with the new United scheme knew that United and USAirways were thinking about a merger... Do you realize those two airlines have almost the exact same c/s (although the fuselage is reversed)? If the merger does go through, they should just repaint the US tails, add the rainbow, and then just use the "reversed" US fuselage for variety. Can you visualize what I'm saying?

I like the new Delta paint scheme only because they are finally "cleaning up" their planes! I hate seeing those Dirty Deltas fly in to CLE! It's disgusting! They're almost gray!

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 1:48 pm

Dear LHMark,

Hello again...I don't know about "good colors gone bad" but there are several other offenses against aesthetics blighting the tarmacs of the world.

Japan Air Lines: from bland to (in tone of Homer Simpson) BOH-ring! All white with the gray stripe and still the minimal swan. Ay carumba.

Swissair: See above, red cross instead of swan.

BA: from handsome if plain blue-jack late '80s livery to the ridiculous "colors of the world" hodgepodge. The flag carrier of the world's once most powerful nation afraid of its own national identity? Good riddance to Bob Ayling and the artwork hodgepodge, some of which was really awful--like the aquamarine dolphins one. I'm surprised the 744s would even start their engines wearing that one.

El AL: From distinctive if '70s-cheat line sky-blue to (Say it again, Homer) BOH-ring minimalist swoop stripes. Back to the drawing board, folks.

Kudos to Air India ditching the silly nouveau-redtail and white fuselage they adopted briefly in 1994. Their old, and thankfully current, scheme is very distinctive and attractive.

Jim

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 3:36 pm

Two examples of colorful-turned-crappy immediately comes to mind:

Dragonair - from this red and gold beauty

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into this minimalist P.o.S.

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Or how about Air Pacific, from this beauty

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into this monstrosity

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 6:37 pm

Air Pacific is a perfect example for a foolish management decision. The new livery is awful. It would be better to abolish these stripes on the tail!
Delta´s new half-finished paint-job is certainly the worst livery of a big international airline next to Air China and Aeroflot. Only a Delta-Fan, blinded by his enthusiasm, can accept that Design-disaster.
 
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 11:08 pm

An example of a great change:

The Old

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The only thing I bemoan is the loss of the flag on the tail. That disappeared due to political pressure from Mainland China.

 
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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Wed Sep 27, 2000 11:56 pm

I have posted this before - Balkan Bulgarian did a very poor job in updating their livery:

Old cls:

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Awful new cls:

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Thu Sep 28, 2000 12:48 am

Detla
Good

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Better

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Bad

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TWA
Good

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Bad

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Better

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Pan Am
Good

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Bad

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Thu Sep 28, 2000 12:49 am

Detla
Good

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Better

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Bad

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TWA
Good

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Bad

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Better

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Pan Am
Good

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Bad

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RE: Colors- When Good Airlines Go Bad.

Thu Sep 28, 2000 6:43 am

The Delta Old-New scheme looks great on a 727; yesterday was the first time I noticed one in the new colors. They never painted an L-1011 in the old-new scheme did they? I wonder what it would look like? anyone out there have a done up example? Or maybe an L-1011 in the New-New.
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