LHMark
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SYR- Important Airport, Tiny City?

Thu Sep 28, 2000 12:43 am

It seems that SYR has an importance that belies the size of its city. Does anyone have any details about movements at SYR?
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RE: SYR- Important Airport, Tiny City?

Thu Sep 28, 2000 1:03 am

SYR is quite a busy little airport-both cargo and pax

The following airlines have pax flights
American Eagle
American
Business Express
Comair
Continental
Delta
North West
US Air
US Express
United

Cargo flights
Airborne Express
DHL
Evergreen
Fedex
Kitty Hawk
UPS
Wiggins

There are over 200 movements a day
 
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RE: SYR- Important Airport, Tiny City?

Thu Sep 28, 2000 1:19 am

LHMark,
I would say that SYR is a pretty busy airport for its size. I am hoping that jetBlue or Southwest will save us from the majors. The majors are killing us with prices.
I flew from ALB to OMA for $ 198.00 but to fly out of SYR was $ 490.00 and ALB is further EAST!!
LH MARK email (profile) me sometime i am in Rochester once a week.

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RE: SYR- Important Airport, Tiny City?

Thu Sep 28, 2000 2:08 am

Dear LHMark,

I'd say that's about right; small city, but important airport because it's well located. Sitting atop the junction of I-90 and I-81, people from all sorts of smaller cities--probably with even worse fares than SYR--can drive there easily. Watertown, Bingahmton, Utica etc. Population of Onandaga county is about 500k; figure another 150,000 in surrounding counties so much smaller than Rochester's 1 million 5-county population.

That's why--as I groused yesterday--UPS flies there and to BUF, and ignores ROC. Despite ROC's higher cargo volume than either BUF or SYR. Can't figure that one out.

Syracuse really got screwed by US Air after they bought Piedmont in 1987. That was the second time a quality regional-jet sized competitor had arisen from Utica, set up hub at Hancock, and prospered (first time Mohawk, second time Empire, bought by Piedmont but still competitor to US). Rochester of course got screwed too becase EM/PI and US used to compete on the BOS and LGA/ EWR routes.

Jim

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RE: SYR- Important Airport, Tiny City?

Thu Sep 28, 2000 4:07 pm

JetBlue has mentioned SYR for future expantion. Also a start up, Legacy Air is trying to get orginized there. I doubt they will see daylight any time soon. The DOT is questioning their financing. Delta Connection will be resuming service to LGA next month in the form of ACJet.
 
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RE: SYR- Important Airport, Tiny City?

Thu Sep 28, 2000 11:34 pm

Dear All,

What do you know about Legacy Air? If the financing isn't good, that's probably a poor sign. David Neeleman raised a huge pot to get Federal approval and good planes, not to mention a hub airport in the nation's largest air market.

I had read somewhere that Legacy Air wants to fly 737s and get this, 767s. That's awfully ambitious. Both of the past hubs at SYR, Mohawk and Empire, prospered using 70-80 seat aircraft. These days that probably would mean CRJ-700s or ARJ's.

JetBlue will probably be at Syracuse within a year; they sought support for their JFK slots from the Upstate congressional delegation so they probably aren't going to wait too long to get to either SYR or ALB.

Jim
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RE: SYR- Important Airport, Tiny City?

Thu Sep 28, 2000 11:51 pm

I'm in college in Ithaca and I know exactly what you mean regarding ridiculous airfares. Being from FLL, I find it easier and much cheaper to drive to NY and take JetBlue, DLex, Spirit, TW, than find any flight from ITH or SYR.

Syracuse itself might be small but it benefits from a very large student population also. Syracuse Univ, Cornell, Ithaca College, SUNY Binghampton, all these schools will provide tons of students for supposed JetBlue weekend flights to NYCity.

My grandparents just flew up yeasterday 12:00pm LGA-ITH and than 7:20 ITH-LGA same day on US Air Ex. DeH-8. Ticket price: $500 r/t.

Delta Express has mildly cheap fares to MCO, but thats all we got. When JetBlue moves in, RELIEF.
 
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RE: SYR- Important Airport, Tiny City?

Fri Sep 29, 2000 4:30 am

Jim,

Legacy (nee Oneida Airlines) Originally posted on their website that they would begin service across NY and to Florida with DC-9s, and they would buy or lease 717s. Stage II of their plan was to fly to various points in the Caribbean with 767s out of SYR- a grandiose plan to say the least. The whole thing looked really shaky to anyone who knows anything about airlines, but the Democrat and Chronicle bought into it hook, line, and sinker. I guess we're just grasping at anything that will foreshadow cheaper airfare from ROC.
Now, Oneida is legacy airlines, and updates are as yet unavailable on their website. My prediction: The day we see 763s flying out of Hancock is the day Herb Kelleher becomes Jack Doyle's bitch.

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RE: SYR- Important Airport, Tiny City?

Fri Sep 29, 2000 6:17 am

Dear LHMark,

Let's hope that Legacy never flies 763's from Hancock. ;+)

Jim
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