northwest 777
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Malaysia Airlines

Thu Sep 28, 2000 1:14 pm

How is MAS doing lately? I haven't heard much about them in the news. Are they still in OK shape and are they planning any route or fleet expansions?
Airbus Lover
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RE: Malaysia Airlines

Thu Sep 28, 2000 1:44 pm

MH now have a very bad money flow...the have a rather good business on domestic flights but they don't want to increase flights- they have 4 or 5 B737s parked at the gate not being used for the whole afternoon because the management cant afford to fly them......I even saw 3 A330 parked by the hangar for no purposes-again cant afford to fly........(the A330s has no mechanical prob...just NO MONEY) a B744 parked for a whole 5 hours....i saw it by myself a few days ago....bcoz the flight from KL to Penang has a gap of around 4 hourz......and when we boarded the plane, they said the plane can't fly and we had to change another a/ good maintainance on the B737....engines underpowered....correct me if i m the way, the have no money for fleet renewal
Triple Seven
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RE: Malaysia Airlines

Sat Sep 30, 2000 12:46 am

To Airbus Lover,

What you wrote is nothing but load of BULL SHIT !!! Get your facts right before entering another rubbish like that.

To Northwest 777,

MAS is in the red at the moment. Current controller Naluri plans to sell 29% of MH to a foreign carrier (QANTAS is intersted). They have stucked boldly to its expansion plans and will not announce any aircraft orders until the 29% stake issue is resolved. MAS international destination is being expanded with more destinations. As for fleet renewal the A320s is likely the choice for its much beloved 737 replacement (the last I heard a total between 50-60 is needed). The long haul fleet will likely be the 777-200LR or even the 747X. The low fare (government regulated) on its domestic routes are hurting MAS overall profitability. MAS should be out of the red very soon. What I'm posting here is the best of my knowledge about MAS but I hope someone else can provide a better and clearer input.

- Triple Seven

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RE: Malaysia Airlines

Sat Sep 30, 2000 2:59 am

have you not been reading my last postings?

1. MAS is in the midst of a reshuffle at the top and with this no long term plans are being drawn up which is a wise and cautious move.

2. Qantas and MAS are now in talks behind closed doors. Preliminary reports have stated that QF was unhappy with the deal but that was before the Malaysian government opened up the foreign ownership of MAS to a potential 49%. In fact it is MAS which is not pleased with the proposed equity stake. MAS is the largest foreign carrier into Australia after Singapore Airlines - a position it is unwilling to lose.

3. MAS is still very much keener to continue its partnership with KLM and Northwest as oppose to join oneworld although has kept its options open with a new code-share deal with Cathay.

4. Its proposed new livery and corporate image - which was to be launched in Australia with the Olympic games was delayed and will temporarily be on hold whilst the board reshuffles.

5. With this reshuffle - MAS has also delayed its announcement of new aircraft orders until at least the end of October. The B737s (of which MAS is the largest operator of the -400 series outside the US) was likely to be replaced with a mix of A321 and A320 aircraft - which are much better suited to its domestic and regional route structure. This idea may be reversed as MAS may still buy a fleet of 737NGs at a lower price offered by Boeing.

6. MAS is still keen to fly the 777-LR and this is likely to still be on-track as the A340-500 has been almost all been ruled out as a viable aircraft for the airline.

7. MAS has no plans to order neither the A3XX nor the 747-X for now - its 747-400s are fulfilling its role well with only its LHR, FRA and LAX routes being potential VLA routes.

8. Short-term plans are continuing at full steam with 4-daily flights to HKG launched this month with Cathay Pacific. New destinations include Mumbai, Bangalore and Hyderabad with frequency additions to Delhi. Elsewhere, the main focus is still on Australia and Europe with double daily flights to Perth, Sydney and Melbourne (some still to come on-line). Daily flights to FRA are still planned and MAS is still wrangling with the French authorities for a daily CDG service. Elsewhere, MAS is hoping to launch a KUL-MAN-EWR service as soon as feasibly possible...but the UK authorities have not granted them rights.

9. Although there has been little news about MAS itself - MAS Kargo has announced new services with Swissair which will see MAS Kargo entering Basle/Mulhouse and flying on to Chicago.

10. On the ground, MAS has launched a host of new Golden Lounges across the globe improving passenger amenities and is also involved with getting the KL Airport high-speed rail service going.

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