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Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 8:36 pm

Now that Airbus seems to have won the first of three Airbus/Boeing battles (how many A3XX SIA will get for free?!?!), we are looking at their 250-seater decision and at NW´s and Quantas`fleet plans. For some of our Airbus- or Boeing-fans another thriller!
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 8:41 pm

For a start , Qantas is spelt Q-A-N-T-A-S, and not "QUANTAS". Anywho, Qantas plans to update it's ageing 747's (-200 -300 -SP) with the 747-400. It was said on both the airbus and Qantas web sites a few months back that Qantas was a possible launch customer for the A3XX. I don't know about North West though.
 
na
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 9:17 pm

It would be great if Qantas orders 747-400s (or 747-400X) instead of 777s or A340s to replace the older 747s, but I think they need something between 767 and 747 in size. Didn´t they announce that?

And it seems more likely now after SIAs decision that Qantas has to go for the A3XX too.
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 9:28 pm

The Qantas decision may be as far off as next March. Their fleet requirements are for about 12 -15 long thin route aircraft to replace the "Classic" 747's in the fleet. Under review are the 777-200LR, and the A340-500. Both offer the accomodation and range that Qantas needs to comence the new planned routes from Sydney to Dallas and Perth to London.
The 777 must start favourite as Qantas is a very loyal Boeing customer. Remember Qantas inherrited 4 Airbus A300's when it took over Australian Airlines, and where are they now? Also why would you have an aircraft that needs four engines serviced when you can have one with just two engines.
Unfortunately I prefer the A340, but I feel the 777 will get the order.
As to the A3XX or A350 as we will know it. Qantas is interested in it only because it's competition is interested in the aircraft and doesn't want to be left behind!
 
na
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 9:39 pm

Wouldn´t it be strange if QF does not order both aircraft from the same manufacturer? Airbus´ chances also in "secondclass" (in terms of size) must be a lot bigger after todays news. And given these mentioned thin routes are often very long overwater trips a Quad should be the wiser decision.
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 9:45 pm

According to Seattle news NWs decision on wheather to order 777s or A330/340s has been postponed for unknown reasons.
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 10:30 pm

If Quantas selects the A3XX, this program will be definitely a success. Quantas should do it to have an edge in the pacific competition :

United likely will never buy the A3XX and Air New Zealand does not have enough money power to do it...So it is a unique chance to gain profitability on routes and markets that is key for them obviously and also to be in a position to get a weapon (lower cost than the competition) that others won't have on the same routes.

E.
 
Mr.BA
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 10:35 pm

Humm... lots of people are spelling Qantas as QUANTAS.

 
Boeing747 万岁!
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 10:42 pm

Yeah, yeah...It used to be QUANTAS or whatever...But go on the australian website and try to find how they write it...Quantas all the way (unless a statement is in capital letter of course)...Quantas Airways Limited...Quantas...QUANTAS....Who cares anyway...
 
tim
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Fri Sep 29, 2000 10:46 pm

The letter QANTAS do represent something!

Q uensland
A nd
N othern
T erritory
A erial
S ervices

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
www.qantas.com.au
 
v jet
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RE: Re BOS-CDG

Fri Sep 29, 2000 10:55 pm

Actually lots of people care even though you dont. It has never been Quantas . If the Australian website you refer to is the Qantas website than may I suggest you get some glasses and take another look.
 
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RE: Re BOS-CDG

Fri Sep 29, 2000 11:11 pm

Actually I was very aware of what it meant...Now if you talk about the website, I don't need any glasses to see that if the logo is written in capital letter, everywhere else in texts, the word "Quantas" is used (ex: click on menu "Our company")...

Anyhow, I find a rather positive sign that the word "Quantas" rather than the acronym is used because it tells a lot about the perception of the airline and how wide-spread its name is, as it is mainly always used as a "normal" name of the common language...Now if you want to be picky about the symbology and history of the acronym vs Quantas that everybody uses without even knowing what it means...I let it to you then...

E.
 
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RE: Re BOS-CDG

Fri Sep 29, 2000 11:21 pm


The confusion with "the Australian airline's" name is because IMO the name is poorly chosen. It's spelled Qantas, but pronounced Quantas. In addition, Quantas looks dyslexic because "quanta" is plural in itself (or quantum) and writing "Quantas" reveals your ignorance... Whatever.
 
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BOS-CDG Okay, Eniratz, Ewwnided, Bridish Eerways..

Sat Sep 30, 2000 10:58 am


Accept it, Qantas is spelt.........QANTAS. If you have a problem with it, dig up the founders of the airline and have a good long argument. And another thing. i just checked the Qantas web site, and never does it spell Qantas as Quantas. You hear me!~NEVER
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 11:15 am

BOS-CDG,

Peanuts to you, ignorant, arrogant French git. If your trying to upset some Aussie then "boo".

C'est comme appeller "Air France" "Air Chance" (et alors c'est la verite apres votre pauvre Concorde!). Il'y a de tres bonne raison pour qu'on appelle Qantus sans "u", c'est une acronymme. (PS Vive Mmme Perec!!)

mb
 
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RE: Re BOS-CDG

Sat Sep 30, 2000 11:18 am

I think Qantas will order the 747X instead. They probably want to save a lot of money and keep their Boeing long-haul fleet, just like United. I think BA will order 747X too.
 
HyperMike
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 12:20 pm

Qantas is in an odd position. They have a need for ultra-long haul aircraft to leave the continent. They also need high-capacity for their intra-continental flights.

Can the 777 do LAX-SYD because of ETOPS regulations?
 
DeltaRNOmd-80
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 12:51 pm

Its hilarious to see the reaction of the Aussies when someone calls it "Quantas". I think I will start now, just to get a reaction  
 
Victor Hotel
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:09 pm

Thats ok DaltaRNOmd-80, so what is Dalta airlines doing about the A3XX, do you think they will order any?
 
tupolev154b2
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:28 pm

Victor Hotel, the answer to your last question about Delta ordering the A3XX can be found here in a discussion going on right now: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/296515/
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:32 pm

I wasnt really interested in what the answer was Tupolev154B2, but thanks for trying to help anyway.
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 5:15 pm

Fine by me, I dont really care what you call them. Victor Hotel, to answer your question, Delta probably wont order any in the near future, they have a contract with Boeing and since they dont operate the 747, I dont think they would get an even larger plane such as the A3XX. do a search, you will probably find more info
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 5:41 pm

What do most think the engine selection will be, regardless of a/c chosen (re QF)? RR? Are their entire 747 fleet RR powered in any case?
 
tim
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 5:48 pm

Most of QF's 744's are RR powered but not all.
VH-OJA - OJU are RR powered (bought these planes new)

VH-OEB, OEC & OED are GE powered (these planes were aquired very cheaply from Asiana and Malaysia in 1998 due to the Asian economic crisis)
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Qantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 9:21 pm

The 777 can do the trans Pacific easily despite the ETOPS rules as there are many islands along the way that can be used for emergency landings.
Air New Zealand would be able to get the A3XX = A350 via it's parent Singapore Airlines.
Qantas will probably order the 747x as well but this aircraft is not what they want at the moment, the parameters require something smaller.

On another note,
Aumerican Airlines
Duelta Airlines
Uunited Airlines
Furontier Airlines
Cuontinental Airlines
Nuorthwest Airlines
Aulaska Airlines
UUSAir
TUWA
Muidwest Express
Suouthwest Airlines

Don't they all look stupid when the second letter is a "U"!
 
Victor Hotel
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Qantas`order

Sat Sep 30, 2000 9:50 pm

Nicely put AussieErj145, Im sure if we kept spelling them like that quite a few people will start getting pissed off, LIKE US. I dont get though how someone can constantly make the mistake even after they have been corrected.
 
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RE: Now Looking At NW´s & Quantas`order

Sun Oct 01, 2000 1:19 am

For long distance flights over the Pacific the new 4-engine 747X and RR Trent 500 powered A340-500/600 would be the logical choice for QANTAS.
 
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Qantas Will Buy.......

Sun Oct 01, 2000 6:26 am


Because of the short term need for mid size aircraft over longer routes and because of Qantas's long partership with Boeing, Qantas will most likely go for the 777-200 (300 maybe) ER. Qantas is not an avid Airbus fan as they found the old A300B4's from TAA to be just too much hard work. I think that Qantas will get the A3XX, and possibly the 747X for long as opposed to super long routes that will be utilised by the A3XX (PER-LHR).

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