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The New National Airlines

Sun Oct 01, 2000 4:30 am

Anyone been on the new National Airlines from Las Vegas? How were they and how are they doing finanacially? Do they have any plans for anything new? Also, what is there fleet and route count right now? Thanks a bunch guys!

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RE: The New National Airlines

Sun Oct 01, 2000 4:42 am

I was talking to them last week. They reckon that they will be operating 35 757 aircraft within their 3 year planning cycle. Their website shows the new routes for next year (though the new cities are not named, it is not too tough wotrking them out).

They are a full-service low-cost airline (??!!), and say that their costs are lower than those of Southwest (which may be possible as they have more seats per movement). They are working with a bunch of Latin American carriers to sort out interline and codeshare arrangements.

National say that they will operate any new route on a double daily basis. All National tickets permit a stopover in Las Vegas (so a return allows two stays).

First class seems excellent. I would use them if the opportunity arose. They have just signed up with Virgin to join their ffp.
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RE: The New National Airlines

Mon Oct 02, 2000 1:45 am

National Airlines isn't a "low cost carrier"... they are far from it.

They presently fly an all Boeing 757-200 fleet, I think 8 are new aircraft (deferred BA order they picked up) and the other 9 aircraft are from European and South American operators (one even flew for AeroPeru, Turkmenistanien, AirTransat, and the saudi gvt.. N517NA). The newer planes have inflight video, but I don't know if they are all operating yet.

The airline was just ranked #2 best airline by Conde Naste... First Class gives you a 40" seat pitch, coach is 33" up to row 25 I think, then the last part of the plane is the regular 32" seat pitch.

The fares are decent and they have a large growth pattern... getting 20 new planes over the next 3 years, of which 8 will be replacing the used aircraft.
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RE: The New National Airlines

Mon Oct 02, 2000 1:51 am

They are in a way a low-cost carrier compared to the majors. Try getting a last-minute one-way fare PHL-SFO. $540 National, over $1000 UA, US. Plus they offer things like warm cookies.
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RE: The New National Airlines

Mon Oct 02, 2000 2:01 am

do warm cookies make money?
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RE: The New National Airlines

Mon Oct 02, 2000 2:07 am

FWIW, my girlfriend took them JFK-LAX, through LAS. She said that the level of attention in First left a lot to be desired. The crew frankly didn't give a damn. To her mind, the seat size was fine, but with no inflight entertainment, a "real meal" that was a "real joke", and a cabin crew whose indifferent conduct (like taking 20 minutes to get her a soda when she finally was able to get their attention to ask for one) was such that she really began to appreciate what a difference first class on her usual carriers is like. In short, the fare was good, but the rest of their PR is a bunch of crap.


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