comorin
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Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:01 pm

It's been a long time waiting for these reports to be published, apart from some initial press releases. Will the findings ever be made public in the interest of aviation safety? Two modern airliners fly into terrain despite all kinds of automation,

Thanks for any insight.

[Edited 2011-08-19 10:47:45]
 
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And EK Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:30 pm

What crash was the EK one? I do not recall hearing about it.

The Afriqiyah crash investigation results may be delayed because investigators are unlikely to be in Libya considering the political situation.
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And EK Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:31 pm

Which EK flight crashed, I thought they have yet to have a hull loss
 
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And EK Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:39 pm

Could he mean the 744F that went down in Dubai?...iirc that was a UPS 744.
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And EK Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:43 pm

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 2):

I think he meant EK's incident at MEL with A340.
 
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:49 pm

Aaargh! Apologies, I meant ET and corrected it.   
 
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:50 pm

He edited the post to refer to ET (Ethiopian).
 
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:05 pm

I am also curious about the Ethiopian crash. Was considering opening a thread about it actually. What is the latest information on that?
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:14 pm

Quoting comorin (Thread starter):
Ethiopian

I think the civil war in Libya would have influenced any investigations occurring in the country, one may never be forthcoming, there was an accident in 1992 with a 727 that collided with a Mig 23 that still has no report that I am aware of.

The preliminary report for ET409 came out earlier this year ( http://www.lebcaa.com/pdfs/Investigation%20Progress%20Report.pdf ), read much the same as the Kenya Airways CFIT accident on takeoff from Douala, and the Flash Airlines CFIT accident on departure from Sharm el Sheikh.
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:54 pm

Quoting zeke (Reply 8):
think the civil war in Libya would have influenced any investigations occurring in the country, one may never be forthcoming, there was an accident in 1992 with a 727 that collided with a Mig 23 that still has no report that I am aware of.

The preliminary report for ET409 came out earlier this year ( http://www.lebcaa.com/pdfs/Investigation%20Progress%20Report.pdf ), read much the same as the Kenya Airways CFIT accident on takeoff from Douala, and the Flash Airlines CFIT accident on departure from Sharm el Sheikh.

Much obliged - thank you!


I presumed since the BEA was assisting that there might have been some preliminary report on the Tripoli accident.
 
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:58 pm

I think the ET crash in the sea was very similar to the KQ crash in Cameroon, CFIT, controlled flight into terrain because the crew was disoriented flying in the night and with bad weather...

The Afriquiyah crash it´s more difficult however I think it must be something similar, they went below the Decision Altitude and try to land when they couldn´t see the runway.... That´s my opinion only!!!
 
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:25 am

Reading the report linked by Zeke it mentions a report due shortly that will provide an analysis of what caused the ET crash.

As for Afriqiyah, since Gaddafi will be gone "in a matter of days", let's hope the new regime releases the findings.
 
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:09 pm

The final ET409 crash report is supposedly going to be made public in the October timeframe based on the last media report out of Beirut, see: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Pol...t-still-pending.ashx#axzz1VVid4dOA
 
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RE: Why No Findings On Afriqiyah And ET Crash?

Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:26 am

What about the Yemen Airways A310 off the coast of Africa?