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Ryanair "fixed" Seats?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:49 pm

I was surprised to hear that Ryanair had airplanes with "fixed" seats.
Which means - no reclining at all and very small pitch.

A guy on my favorite Russian forum referred to his flights Bari-Bratislava and Venice-Paris.
Both flights were within 90 minutes.

I am asking as Ryanair has much longer flights.
I was considering buying property (prior to the "revolution") in Sharm el Sheikh.
And the case of UK property manager was based on a new Rynair regular flight.
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RE: Ryanair "fixed" Seats?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:19 pm

All FR 738s have 29" pitch with no recline.   

Everyone knows that you don't use FR because it's comfortable or pleasant.
 
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RE: Ryanair "fixed" Seats?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:38 pm

Thanks for your response.
I just had no chance - as of yet - to try it.
At least I know now.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:43 pm

Most of Easyjet's seats are the same.............and believe it or not (I was kind of surprised) they are usually championed by passengers. One or two ask why they don't recline but very rarely do they 'whine' about it. There is certainly some link to that and the fact that at one airline I used to fly for there were countless squabbles regarding reclined seats that invariably saw the cabin crew drawn into the argument.
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:44 pm

NK is also installing the "pre-reclined" seats. Not sure if FR has pre-reclined or not.

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...10-05-11-businesstravel11_ST_N.htm

The less bells and whistles and moving parts, the less MX costs there are to upkeep the seats, so for an ULCC, it makes sense. Some of those seat parts are insanely expensive.
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RE: Ryanair "fixed" Seats?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:11 pm

Quoting pylon101 (Thread starter):
I was surprised to hear that Ryanair had airplanes with "fixed" seats.
Which means - no reclining at all and very small pitch.

Many AF A320-family aircraft, mainly those used on domestic routes I believe, also have new lightweight non-reclinable seats. I was on an AF A319 or A320 with those seats on a CDG-GVA flight a few months ago. I wasn't impressed. They're described here. The legroom is somewhat greater due to the thin-back design but the seats seemed very hard and the armrests and drop-down trays are very small.
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RE: Ryanair "fixed" Seats?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:21 pm

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 2):
Thanks for your response.
I just had no chance - as of yet - to try it.
At least I know now.

I'm sorry... I see now that my response came off as dismissive toward you. That was not the intent. It was supposed to be dismissive toward FR...  
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:22 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 5):
The legroom is somewhat greater due to the thin-back design but the seats seemed very hard and the armrests and drop-down trays are very small.

29" pitch seems like a lot more when the seats are 2+" thinner.

Pitch is measured on the seat track in the floor, correct?
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:28 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 1):
Everyone knows that you don't use FR because it's comfortable or pleasant

Ever flown FR? The seats are perfectly comfortable for most flights!  
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:36 pm

Quoting eicvd (Reply 8):
Ever flown FR? The seats are perfectly comfortable for most flights!

I have indeed flown FR, and (as you would expect from 29" pitch) it was far from comfortable. I'm only 178 cm tall and my knees were wedged against the seat in front of me.

That's their choice -- it's the only way to cram 189 people into a 738 -- but it's one of several reasons I'll avoid them if possible.
 
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RE: Ryanair "fixed" Seats?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:56 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 9):
but it's one of several reasons I'll avoid them if possible.

Oh I know most of us can think of a lot MORE reasons to avoid them than their seating...
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:56 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 9):
I have indeed flown FR, and (as you would expect from 29" pitch) it was far from comfortable. I'm only 178 cm tall and my knees were wedged against the seat in front of me.

Well im 182 cm tall & ive had no problems, then again ive only flown relatively short flights with them recently (DUB-LGW & return). I wouldnt like to fly Ryanair down to the Canarias or Greece (or any holiday airline for that matter) but on flights up to 2 hours the seats are fine.
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RE: Ryanair "fixed" Seats?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:58 pm

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 9):
I have indeed flown FR, and (as you would expect from 29" pitch) it was far from comfortable. I'm only 178 cm tall and my knees were wedged against the seat in front of me.

Intriguing. I'm 191cm tall and my knees only just about touch the seat in front, not enough to be overly uncomfortable anyway. You must have insanely long legs (especially as my legs make up a hefty amount of my 191cm!). EasyJet, on the other hand, my knees were well into the seatback and I came off that flight with absolutely horrendous cramp, and it was only a 1hr flight. Put me off easyJet for a considerable amount of time, and I still haven't flown them since.

I'm a fan of fixed seats because they prevent people from reclining into the already small space in front of my legs... I had to put up with a lovely Italian gentleman on a recent Alitalia flight reclining for the entire 2 hours on one of their 29" A320s. Hell.
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:02 pm

If you pay for priority boarding, you can usually get an emergency exit row seat. The vast majority of pax who pay for this choose the first and last few rows to speed their disembarkation. Even when not paying for this I have still been able to get a seat in one of the two exit rows on fully flights - most pax really seem to want to get off first.

I'm 191cm tall and I have absolutely no problems even on the regular seats on FR - longest flight I have done on them is LPL-RIX.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:25 pm

Quoting bonusonus (Reply 7):
29" pitch seems like a lot more when the seats are 2+" thinner.

Pitch is measured on the seat track in the floor, correct?

I don't think so - certainly in the UK it is the distance between a point on the seat cushion and the back of the chair in front - so thinner seats don't increase the space
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:58 pm

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 12):
Intriguing. I'm 191cm tall and my knees only just about touch the seat in front, not enough to be overly uncomfortable anyway. You must have insanely long legs (especially as my legs make up a hefty amount of my 191cm!)

Funny that! I am the same size and today I flew MAN-TFS on an EasyJet A320 and I could happily strecth my legs out under the seat in front without any bother and if sitting bolt upright my knee´s didnt touch the seatpocket. I have quite a short body for my height, so a lot of my height is leg. Still its all horses for course´s. I think the charter airlines could learn a lot from the so called low-cost sector. Remove the recline and get rid of those bulky seatpockets full of sales rubbish.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:04 pm

Quoting bonusonus (Reply 7):
Pitch is measured on the seat track in the floor, correct?
Quoting marky (Reply 14):
Quoting bonusonus (Reply 7):
29" pitch seems like a lot more when the seats are 2+" thinner.

Pitch is measured on the seat track in the floor, correct?

I don't think so - certainly in the UK it is the distance between a point on the seat cushion and the back of the chair in front - so thinner seats don't increase the space

Not correct. Seat pitch is always the distance between a fixed point on one seat and the same point on the next row of seats. As bonusonus mentioned, it can also be measured between the seat track attachment points. That's why many airlines are installing thin-back seats as they can reduce the pitch by a couple of inches (making room for another row or two of seats) without reducing (and sometimes increasing) effective leg/kneeroom.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:50 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):
Not correct

Perhaps I didn't explain myself very well - it is correct as far as the minimum seat pitch is defined in the UK, although I accept airlines may measure it differently.

CAA Publication CAP 747, Generic Requirement No. 2 'Minimum Space for Seated Passengers' (www.caa.co.uk/cap747) states:

"The minimum distance between the back support cushion of a seat and the back of the seat or other fixed structure in front, shall be 26 inches."

This applies to all UK registered aeroplanes over 5,700 kg MTWA, operated for the purposes of Commercial Air Transport and configured to carry 20 or more passengers.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:06 pm

Part of the reason i fly FR and EZY is that the seats don't recline, being 6ft 2'' theres nothing worse than when the person in front reclines. So irritating!
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:14 pm

Quoting marky (Reply 17):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):
Not correct

Perhaps I didn't explain myself very well - it is correct as far as the minimum seat pitch is defined in the UK, although I accept airlines may measure it differently.

CAA Publication CAP 747, Generic Requirement No. 2 'Minimum Space for Seated Passengers' (www.caa.co.uk/cap747) states:

"The minimum distance between the back support cushion of a seat and the back of the seat or other fixed structure in front, shall be 26 inches."

This applies to all UK registered aeroplanes over 5,700 kg MTWA, operated for the purposes of Commercial Air Transport and configured to carry 20 or more passengers.

Note the UK CAA document you refer to doesn't use the term "pitch" but "space". What it is referring to is not seat pitch which is always measured the same way. Pitch determines how many rows of seats can be installed on the aircraft. Other terms like legroom, seating space etc. depend on the type of seat in combination with the pitch.
 
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:21 pm

Quoting aceregular (Reply 15):
Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 12):Intriguing. I'm 191cm tall and my knees only just about touch the seat in front, not enough to be overly uncomfortable anyway. You must have insanely long legs (especially as my legs make up a hefty amount of my 191cm!)
Funny that! I am the same size and today I flew MAN-TFS on an EasyJet A320 and I could happily strecth my legs out under the seat in front without any bother and if sitting bolt upright my knee´s didnt touch the seatpocket. I have quite a short body for my height, so a lot of my height is leg. Still its all horses for course´s. I think the charter airlines could learn a lot from the so called low-cost sector. Remove the recline and get rid of those bulky seatpockets full of sales rubbish.

The A320's (in particular) at Easyjet are strange in that seat pitch reduces gradually after around row 25 and row 31 is very tight. The last row on the A319 is too but to a lesser extent. I can only think that this is where the 29" seat pitch relates to as I honestly can't tell much difference in seat pitch between GB and Easy on rows other than those i've mentioned.

Quoting by188b (Reply 18):
Part of the reason i fly FR and EZY is that the seats don't recline, being 6ft 2'' theres nothing worse than when the person in front reclines. So irritating!

And that is why so many people are actually for it. Reclinable seats was/are just not worth it. Long haul there is a case for them but even then i don't think i've ever reclined my seat partly out of courtesy to those behind but mainly because I don't really gain much benefit from it. I think much of the "recline" is psychological to many. A pre/part reclined seat is a fantastic concept.
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:33 pm

While I don't particularly like FR, I find their non-reclining seats quite reasonable, if not comfortable. And I've been on them to the Canary Islands (3.5 hour flight). I find both Easyjet's and Vueling's seats more uncomfortable than Ryanair's, although overal I like them both better than FR.
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Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:46 pm

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 4):
NK is also installing the "pre-reclined" seats.

G4 has the pre-reclined seats on most of their planes as well.
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:13 am

Quoting by188b (Reply 18):
Part of the reason i fly FR and EZY is that the seats don't recline, being 6ft 2'' theres nothing worse than when the person in front reclines. So irritating!

   I'm also 6' 2"

At least here in Scandinavia, where people on average are higher than the world average, it is considered more and more an offence against the passenger behind you to recline an Y class seat. And consequently much fewer people actually do recline these days.

I am a polite man. I never ever recline my seat when the seat behind is occupied. I am not the only polite person. Recently I have noticed some people who ask the passenger behind whether it is OK to recline, something which never happened 20 years ago. And I have seen them still smile when the answer was "please don't".

I will choose a carrier with non reclining seats any day over the alternative, but unfortunately there often is no choice.

It's a mystery that this reclining exists in Y class, when people can happily endure train rides of much longer duration without reclining seats, and have done so for well over 150 years. It must be some stupid leftover from the days of 45 pax on a DC-7.

Hopefully in another ten years time the last reclining Y class seat has been scrapped.
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RE: Ryanair "fixed" Seats?

Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:03 am

I'm guessing I'm wrong here, but I'd always though that the seat pitch on Ryanair was greater than 29". The 189 seat limit was due to the emergency exit limitation, so the seat pitch was a little greater. This is why when you sit in a 'true' 29" pitch it's a lot tighter, for example on a 29" 757?

Am I wrong here?

incidently, flown a shed oad on Ryanair and it's always been pretty comfortable for me (6"1') - it's the other stuff which means I avoid them now. I'm just fed up at having to play their game.
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:43 am

Flew Tiger Airways in Australia at Easter time (OOL-MEL, MEL-OOL) and they'd 'locked' the seats - on both sectors I couldn't recline the seat. I noticed a few seats around me had the recline button forcibly pushed through and were rattling around inside the armrest! Not a good look.

Hey, here's an idea! Why not add another ridiculous ancillary charge at the online booking stage and charge say $4-00 per sector to be able to recline your seat ...         

The money I saved on the flights in no way way made up for the LCC experience I'm afraid.

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Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:45 am

Quoting bonusonus (Reply 7):
Pitch is measured on the seat track in the floor, correct?

Headrest to headrest.
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:29 am

Hi,

On easyJet receiving new A/C with reclined seats few years ago, they were not working proberly after few weeks only, they needed to be fixed, due to quality ! So an additionnal cost for the company ! Probably the same reason for Ryanair ?
But pax are not complaining about that today with only "fixed" seats.

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[Edited 2011-09-03 02:39:32]
 
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:54 am

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 1):
Everyone knows that you don't use FR because it's comfortable or pleasant.

From my own experience as passenger on very many Ryanair flights I do not really agree with you if you are talking about the flights with Ryanair. The problem with Ryanair is certainly not the ride in itself. You get onboard brand new planes most other carriers just dream of and everything is very good. The pilots are well trained and paid, (on contrary to what some may say, and they give good announcements onboard etc. Everything is professional it seems to me.

The downside with Ryanair is when you get delays or irregularities when they do not step up and pay for your extra expenses they cause. You also have to pay for any extras onboard, luggage etc. You also sometimes end up in rural areas when you rather would like to go to an urban area   And perhaps the cabin crew is not so well paid, you know all that stuff I presume... But to be clear I find the flights very comfortable at Ryanair and of top standard and often even better than on other carriers.

So I would say that Ryanair has its downsides but I think the flights are very good on excellent planes most of the time.

And fixed seats or not, who cares? I sit upright on flights most of the time anyway...

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Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:16 am

I only fly "short" flights on Easyjet but I do a lot of them (170 flights in the last 2.5 years). I find the non-reclining seat aircraft far preferable to their few (early) reclining seats aircraft. If I am on one of those and the (anti-social) person in front manages to recline onto me (I'm 6ft tall) it becomes very cramped and unpleasant (inevitably they fail to get their seat reclined because I push back from behind   ). Thankfully, the proportion of aircraft with reclining seats is now very low.

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Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:16 am

FWIW, FlyBe's aircraft also have non reclinable seats.
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:46 am

If I drop somethin on the floor of an FR 738, it's there for the rest of the flight as I can't bend down to pick it up without contorting myself against the seat in front! I'm only 5' 3. I fly them a lot though & generally have a good experience.
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:01 pm

Why do you need reclining seats on flights 1 hour long?
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:11 pm

I'm 6', yet never had an issue with their seats.
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:41 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 33):
I'm 6', yet never had an issue with their seats.

I'm 6'2", can't say I've had an issue either. And the diligent traveller should be able to snag an exit row seat as well. In my experience, the crews have been friendly and professional, the only problem I have is the frickin' noise they like to broadcast during embarkation and disembarkation.

And yeah, the way FR manages to become more and more adherent to the no-frills principle is annoying, but as long as you do your homework and expect the various FR idiosyncrasies, flying FR is just fine.

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Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:49 pm

For the silly prices I pay I'm willing to put up with any of their music/queues/questions/add-ons/what-nots. Sure, I'd like a recliner but for 1.5 hrs I ain't gonna complain. A bottle of J2O and a flick through the magazine and the flights over. Say what you want about RYR but for me they really do me fine!!
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RE: Ryanair "fixed" Seats?

Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:55 pm

Quoting eicvd (Reply 8):
Ever flown FR? The seats are perfectly comfortable for most flights!

Indeed. No problems with FR for the relatively short European flights

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 9):
I'm only 178 cm tall and my knees were wedged against the seat in front of me.

I'm 189cm tall and never face issues with seats on FR flights.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 9):
That's their choice -- it's the only way to cram 189 people into a 738 -- but it's one of several reasons I'll avoid them if possible.

189 pax on a 738 is very standard industry wide for all-economy cabins on this type. Not something which is typical for FR.
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:31 pm

I flew FR once return on a 2 hour flight from BVA to BTS and I'm 186cm tall. The flight felt very cramped and I felt that the ticket price (€60 excluding bag fee and shuttle service to the airport) wasn't all that much value for money. I am SO thankful that OK now has a BTS hub. Their CDG-BTS route has been running me between €90 - €120 roundtrip with a free checked bag, a free meal and landing at CDG is so much more convenient.

Bottom line is I won't fly FR unless absolutely necessary.
 
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:40 pm

Quoting canadiantree (Reply 37):
I felt that the ticket price (€60 excluding bag fee and shuttle service to the airport) wasn't all that much value for money

So why did you buy it?!
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:42 pm

I am 200cm and I have done a number of flights on FR. Exit row only for me. Paying the extra for the pre-boarding is a no-brainer for me.
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:47 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 38):
So why did you buy it?!

It was his first flight with FR?

Height is one thing, torso vs. leg length another. At 178cm, a pitch of 32" is comfortable, I have an estimated 2" room in front of me.. at 29", I would be butting against the seat in front.

I have flown FR and might do it again if the price delta is LARGE. Otherwise I'm happy to avoid them.
 
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Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:20 pm

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 36):
189 pax on a 738 is very standard industry wide for all-economy cabins on this type. Not something which is typical for FR.

189 is the maximum permissible seating for the 738 according to the FAA certification.
 
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Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:22 am

Quoting Navigator (Reply 28):
And perhaps the cabin crew is not so well paid

Whilst I would never work for Ryanair (my own choice), I can honestly say that they are amongst the best paid in the industry. They are work hard but earn well. Indeed, the perception that Charter and LCC crew don't earn much is a myth. I'd love to fly long haul but cannot afford it. Like every airline, the basic isn't anything to write home about but the sector pay (pay for being in the air) plus commission on everything sold means that pay is pretty good. I cannot comment on specific Ryanair pay but they are paid as good, if not better, than EZY crews and as a junior crew at Easyjet you earn around £21K.
Proud to fly from Manchester!