Tango-Bravo
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History Of JAL Pax Service To SEA?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:26 pm

According to "Airlines of Asia Since 1920" (by R.E.G. Davies) Japan Air Lines started service to Seattle via the Great Circle route (later withdrawn) in April 1961. The only SEA service found in JAL's December 1961 timetable is 2x weekly cargo only flights via ANC operated by DC-7F equipment. Had pax service on TYO-SEA-TYO (presumably, like NW, via ANC both ways) already been discontinued by December 1961?

From 1961 and beyond, has JAL ever offered passenger service between Tokyo and Seattle? If so, when and what aircraft type(s) and routing(s) were flown?
 
Viscount724
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RE: History Of JAL Pax Service To SEA?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:47 pm

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Thread starter):
From 1961 and beyond, has JAL ever offered passenger service between Tokyo and Seattle? If so, when and what aircraft type(s) and routing(s) were flown?

Yes JL operated SEA-NRT for a while in the late 1980s and/or early 1990s. I'm not sure about the precise period but if memory correct it didn't last very long. At the time of the following SEA newspaper item dated July 1991 (see paragraph 4) it was twice a week. I have a vague recollection that the NRT-SEA flights may have continued to another US point (obviously without domestic traffic rights) but I'm not sure about that. I think that service used the 747-200.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsour...rchive/?date=19910709&slug=1293510

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Thread starter):
. The only SEA service found in JAL's December 1961 timetable is 2x weekly cargo only flights via ANC operated by DC-7F equipment. Had pax service on TYO-SEA-TYO (presumably, like NW, via ANC both ways) already been discontinued by December 1961?

I can't recall any JL passenger service to SEA during that period. A few news items refer to JL obtaining rights to both LAX and SEA in 1959. Until then they were restricted to SFO and HNL.
 
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RE: History Of JAL Pax Service To SEA?

Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:49 pm

From memory I believe that JL flew NRT-SEA from about 1983 until about 1992. The NRT-SEA flight continued to ORD for a while and later on continued from SEA to ATL.
 
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RE: History Of JAL Pax Service To SEA?

Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:59 am

Quoting Tango-Bravo (Thread starter):

According to a JAL history book put out by JAL for their 20th anniversay, SEA started in June 27, 1959 via ANC with the DC-7C. It changed to the DC-8 in November 1, 1960. The route stopped in May 20, 1961.

At least this is what I could figure out with my limited kanji reading ability (the entire book is in Japanese).

After that, the next mention of SEA I found is in the online History of JAL website, showing that ORD was started on April 1, 1983 via SEA.
 
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RE: History Of JAL Pax Service To SEA?

Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:07 pm

Two DC-8s a week in the 3/61 OAG (via ANC "when required").
 
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RE: History Of JAL Pax Service To SEA?

Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:32 pm

Quoting 28L28L (Reply 2):
From memory I believe that JL flew NRT-SEA from about 1983 until about 1992. The NRT-SEA flight continued to ORD for a while and later on continued from SEA to ATL.

This is correct - although, I think the flight lasted longer than 1992. I have a JAL routemap from 1991 that shows the SEA-ATL route.
 
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RE: History Of JAL Pax Service To SEA?

Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:51 pm

Quoting DIA77 (Reply 5):
Quoting 28L28L (Reply 2):
From memory I believe that JL flew NRT-SEA from about 1983 until about 1992. The NRT-SEA flight continued to ORD for a while and later on continued from SEA to ATL.

This is correct - although, I think the flight lasted longer than 1992. I have a JAL routemap from 1991 that shows the SEA-ATL route.

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JAL began nonstop NRT-ATL service (3 x week) in October 1992. That was probably when they dropped SEA. Summary of JAL's network below from the February 1993 OAG.
http://airlineroute.net/2010/06/14/jl-w92/

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