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YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:52 pm

Sky News reporting a YAK42 has crashed on take off in Russia and that 36 people are dead. No more news yet.

news.sky.com

Yaroslavl is the city being mentioned now.



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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:07 pm

Quoting OA260 (Thread starter):

Damn... Bad news 

R.I.P. to all those who died...

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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:11 pm

https://rt.com/news/passenger-plane-russia-reports-005/ has an initial report, most of the pax were players for the Lokomotiv team of the Kontinental Hockey League.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:13 pm

Three survivors reported now.

The plane was carrying Russia's Lokomotiv Ice Hockey team. Reportedly the Yak-42 banked to the left side right after rotating and plunged 500 metres off the runway... The airport is IAR.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:13 pm

Norwegian news reporting the plane caught fire during take-off.

Very sad news.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:16 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09...36-dead-in-russian-airliner-crash/

Former NHL players Pavol Demitra and Ruslan Salei are member of this hockey team. RIP to all those you passed. Hopefully it went quick.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:18 pm

CNN Int'l reporting 36 of 37 have died. RIP
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:22 pm

The Swedish national hockey team goalie Stefan Liv is playing for Lokomotiv. It is not yet known wether or not he was on this flight.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:26 pm

Quoting airtran737 (Reply 5):
Former NHL players Pavol Demitra and Ruslan Salei are member of this hockey team. RIP to all those you passed. Hopefully it went quick.

as well as Karlis Skrastins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%81rlis_Skrasti%C5%86%C5%A1 - who played 495 games in a row...
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:39 pm

What was believed to be initially three survivors now being reported on the telly as one... "possibly crew member".

RIP  
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:50 pm

Very sad day indeed RIP to all of the victims. Would this have been a charter or scheduled flight?
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:50 pm

Sad news.
Does anyone know which airline?
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:51 pm

Link to avherald:

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4428da13&opt=0

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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:54 pm

Quoting airtran737 (Reply 5):
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/09...36-dead-in-russian-airliner-crash/

Former NHL players Pavol Demitra and Ruslan Salei are member of this hockey team. RIP to all those you passed. Hopefully it went quick.

Holy crap... This is just sad. RIP to everyone, and my thoughts go out to the families of the players.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:58 pm

Quoting BT001 (Reply 8):
Quoting airtran737 (Reply 5):
Former NHL players Pavol Demitra and Ruslan Salei are member of this hockey team. RIP to all those you passed. Hopefully it went quick.

as well as Karlis Skrastins: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C4%81rlis_Skrasti%C5%86%C5%A1 - who played 495 games in a row...

There were a few notable NHL Players on the team:

Josef Vasicek
Pavol Demitra
Karlias Skrastins
Ruslan Salei

and was coached by former Detroit Red Wing Brad McCrimmon
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:59 pm

Quoting Lp0815 (Reply 11):
Does anyone know which airline?

PROTON or YAK SERVICE YAKOVLEV (?), YAK-42, reg.# RA-42434


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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:15 pm

This is the flight up to Yaroslavl (before the crash)
http://www.flightradar24.com/2011-09-07/09:32/AKY9634
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:15 pm

Survivors are
Sizov A.B., flight engineer
Galimov A.S., hockey player
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:19 pm

Very sad news  - I wonder if this could accelerate the decision of banning all soviet era aircrafts...
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:26 pm

This will then probably be the last major Russian aircraft type to be permanently withdrawn. Just wait for the announcement by the Russian government...
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:26 pm

Quoting canadianpylon (Reply 14):
There were a few notable NHL Players on the team:

Josef Vasicek
Pavol Demitra
Karlias Skrastins
Ruslan Salei

and was coached by former Detroit Red Wing Brad McCrimmon

I think former Leaf Korolev, now assitant coach, was on the flight?
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:34 pm

RIP to all the victims!

 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:35 pm

First the NHL loses 3 players to OD and suicides and now this. This has been possibly the worst offseason ever for the sport of hockey.
My thoughts go out to all of the victims family. This is just too unbelievable.
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:36 pm

This really hit me hard. Pavol Demitra was my favorite player back when he was on the Blues.

My thoughts are with the friends and family members of those lost today.
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:37 pm

Early reports via a Russian hockey correspondent (Dmitry Chesnokov) say that "The plane couldn't get to the right altitude on take off and crashed into a radar." Maybe an engine failure just after decision speed?
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:40 pm

I made a trip to Russia last week to fly on Soviet era aircraft... Got on An-24, Tu-134, Tu-154, An-148 and Yak-42 (not this aircraft but the older RA-42356 of Saravia). Maybe just in time if the knee jerk reaction on grounding An-24s and Tu-134s after an accident gets a follow up here.
I felt safe on every aircraft although I must admit the Yak-42 felt a bit... flimsy. Even in good weather it seemed to bank and turn and increase and decrease speed all the time.
Please don't flame me, I don't want to suggest the Yak-42 is unsafe or speculate about the reason. Its safety statistics seem fine so far. But I just felt last week that the Yak-42 is a bit an oddball aircraft with maybe an unusual construction and operating philosophy. Again, no flame bait, I just give my first impression and hope other more knowledgeable persons can share their ideas about this very obscure aircraft type here.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:41 pm

And also via Chesnokov, Ruslan Salei was already in Minsk awaiting the team, so he is not among the fatalities if that report is true.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:43 pm

I had heard rumors earlier that Riley Armstrong, brother of Leafs alternate captain Colby Armstrong, was supposed to have been on that flight. Those rumors are false, according to a retweet by Bob McKenzie of TSN.

"@TSNBobMcKenzie: RT @rilesarmy Hey I was not on the KHL flight im attending St johns camp"
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:49 pm

Rip to those poor souls, and comfort and strength to their families.

Always so sad to here about something tragic like this.   
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:51 pm

Quoting captainstefan (Reply 24):
Early reports via a Russian hockey correspondent (Dmitry Chesnokov) say that "The plane couldn't get to the right altitude on take off and crashed into a radar." Maybe an engine failure just after decision speed?

Some suggest birdstrike, but engine failure for different reasons is likely as well.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 25):
Yak-42 is a bit an oddball aircraft

Couldnt have said it better.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:01 pm

It is sadly now confirmed that Olympic gold medallist (2006) Stefan Liv was on this flight:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Liv

Rest in peace, and thanks for all the good memories!

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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:05 pm

Still can't believe this... RIP to all the victims.
3 Czech players died in the crash - Karel Rachunek, Jan Marek and Josef Vasicek. They were almost like national heroes...

Again, RIP. You'll never be forgotten.

    
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:08 pm

I always wondered how safe it was to have entire sprots team share a single plane. It could be safer, although maybe a bit more tedious, to split the teams on 3-4 aircrafts?

I have worked for companies where no more than x members of management could fly on the same flight.
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:29 pm

It is indeed a very sad day in aviation and a very sad day in the hockey world. As a Dallas Stars fan my prayers go out to the family and friends of our former defenseman Karlis Skrastins. RIP to all those on board.

[Edited 2011-09-07 08:41:26]
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:36 pm

Yeah lets take this time to flame russian aircraft. I will point you in the direction of the Aviation safety network of all of this years crashes. 3 biggest accidents were planes built in the USA, The next was a TU134 and the rest of the large accidents were all western aircraft including a SAAB a Bombardier and a couple of Casas. Lets not let the truth get in the way of scare mongering.

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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:36 pm

My thoughts go out to all involved.

No offense, but is anyone really shocked? Air safety in Russia is truly an oxymoron, and that is doubly true with Russian equipment.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:43 pm

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 35):
Yeah lets take this time to flame russian aircraft. I will point you in the direction of the Aviation safety network of all of this years crashes. 3 biggest accidents were planes built in the USA, The next was a TU134 and the rest of the large accidents were all western aircraft including a SAAB a Bombardier and a couple of Casas. Lets not let the truth get in the way of scare mongering.

I don't worry too much about where the aircraft is made, my concern is whether it is being properly maintained. Many countries have low standards and hardly any oversight to ensure that this is accomplished.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:43 pm

Eh I wont dive into it on this thread because it detracts from the story but the stats are there for the year (and all of history) and speak for themselves. Most of the Russian aircraft that crashed were cargo planes operating in places like Afghanistan. 1 pax tu134 was lost and a fire on a pax tu154.. at the same time 2 boeing 727, a boeing 737 operating in canada, a saab in argentina etc etc

http://aviation-safety.net/index.php

A simple read will show the prejudice that Russian Airlines or Equiptment are unsafe is way over the top.

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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:46 pm

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 33):

Many teams are having hard enough time paying for one plane...



Russian news printed a witness report of the ATCO working the flight - he states that the airplane seemed to have power problems on ground already, accelerating very slowly and not leaving the ground until after the end of (3000m) runway, subsequently hitting a pole (possibly MM).


Also, there are reports that the hockey player died in the hospital (facing, among other injuries, 80-90% body surface burns)
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:47 pm

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 35):
Yeah lets take this time to flame russian aircraft. I will point you in the direction of the Aviation safety network of all of this years crashes. 3 biggest accidents were planes built in the USA, The next was a TU134 and the rest of the large accidents were all western aircraft including a SAAB a Bombardier and a couple of Casas. Lets not let the truth get in the way of scare mongering.

Don't even bother, it is hardly worth it.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:59 pm

I had the pleasure of watching Pavol Demitra play for Slovakia at the 2010 Vancouver Games (where he was the leading scorer). It surprised me that a guy playing that well among world class players was no longer in the NHL.

Anyway, RIP to all. Wow.

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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:05 pm

Regardless of the maker of the aircraft, its a sad day for hockey. Many greats were on board that flight, and I think that most opposition fans would have liked to have had some of those guys playing for rather than against their teams.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:17 pm

I am deeply saddened by this news.
As a hockey and sports fans I have always feared this happening.
Crashes are tragic at best, and so so sad.
My thoughts go out to the families of those onboard.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:17 pm

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 38):

[quote=Giancavia,reply=38]A simple read will show the prejudice that Russian Airlines or Equiptment are unsafe is way over the top.

You make a decent point. We scoff at the Russian craft, while the DC-10 is beloved.
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:19 pm

Most folks in the US don't realize that the KHL is a big-time league.
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:33 pm

Rip to all the victims of this terrible tragedy. Hockey is having a bad off season. such a terrible loss
 
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:45 pm

Quoting yooyoo (Reply 20):
Quoting canadianpylon (Reply 14):
There were a few notable NHL Players on the team:

Josef Vasicek
Pavol Demitra
Karlias Skrastins
Ruslan Salei

and was coached by former Detroit Red Wing Brad McCrimmon

I think former Leaf Korolev, now assitant coach, was on the flight?

You mean former Winnipeg Jet Igor Korolev player, right? He was an assistant Coach, so it would be assumed.

Quoting brdcessna (Reply 46):
ip to all the victims of this terrible tragedy. Hockey is having a bad off season. such a terrible loss

Amen.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:53 pm

Quoting canadianpylon (Reply 47):
You mean former Winnipeg Jet Igor Korolev player, right? He was an assistant Coach, so it would be assumed

i think he played for the Leafs in the late 90's and the Jets. Anyways.....Hockey has had a hard year.
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RE: YAK-42 Crash On Take Off In Russia 36 Dead

Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:56 pm

Ria Novosti reported that one of the survivors has died in the hospital leaving the flight crew member the only survivor in the crash . RIP to all the victims . Very sad .

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