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First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:46 pm

Delta Connection now has the first regional jet to feature onboard Wi-Fi for passengers. The first aircraft to be equipped is a CRJ-700 operated by ASA.

Here's the blog post from Delta: http://blog.delta.com/2011/09/07/wi-...e-internet-flies-delta-connection/

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Here’s a cool factoid…with today’s introduction of Wi-Fi service aboard a CRJ700 (operated by our friends at ASA), Delta now features the world’s smallest (65-seat CRJ700) and largest (261-seat B767-300) aircraft equipped with Wi-Fi (and everything in between!).

From what I understand, they'll be installing Wi-Fi on CRJ-700s, CRJ-900s, Embraer 170s and 175s. The 50-seaters (CR2s and ER4s) will not get Wi-Fi.

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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:09 pm

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
From what I understand, they'll be installing Wi-Fi on CRJ-700s, CRJ-900s, Embraer 170s and 175s. The 50-seaters (CR2s and ER4s) will not get Wi-Fi.

Makes since since DL stated any flight over 750 miles must be CR7 or higher.. on those lengths, the wifi makes sense.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:52 pm

And also been repainted finally into the "new" DL livery. N722EV

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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:55 pm

It's a nice feature, but on those short hops I wonder how many people will really take advantage of it. I have trouble justifying it on BDL-DTW, I couldn't imagine trying to on MSP to like LSE.
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:58 pm

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 3):
It's a nice feature, but on those short hops I wonder how many people will really take advantage of it. I have trouble justifying it on BDL-DTW, I couldn't imagine trying to on MSP to like LSE.
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I wonder what the pricing will be for short flights like that.
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:11 pm

Quoting Grid (Reply 4):

Why would the price change? It won't cause it has wifi.

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 3):

This is undoubtedly a feature for business passengers. Every time I am on a flight they are the last ones off their equipment and first one's on. I'm sure this will be well used by the people paying a good price for tickets.
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:27 pm

Quoting as739x (Reply 5):
Quoting Grid (Reply 4):

Why would the price change? It won't cause it has wifi.

Sorry, pricing, if any, to use wifi.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:30 pm

Mainline a/c have wiFi and also operate short flights... so... what's the difference? The point is that the service will be available to the passenger should they want to take advantage of it, regardless of stage length.
 
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:40 pm

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
and largest (261-seat B767-300) aircraft equipped with Wi-Fi (and everything in between!).

Maybe I'm nitpicking, but doesn't the 744 or 772 have wifi?
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:59 pm

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 8):
Maybe I'm nitpicking, but doesn't the 744 or 772 have wifi?

Nope
 
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:05 pm

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
The 50-seaters (CR2s and ER4s) will not get Wi-Fi.

These will probably get dial-up or something horrible like that just to match the general feel and comfort-level of those planes.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:18 pm

I have not researched Wi-Fi on commercial flights at all. Can someone tell me how well it works, and is it fast? Also, what is the average cost to use it? Do they charge by the minute? Also, are there any airlines offering free Wi-Fi on their planes? I am sure I could google it, but I prefer to hear it from our airliners.nutters! Opinions are better on this site!  

Edit to ask another question. Will it work on most cell phones with internet? Also, some cell providers offer Wi-Fi calling. Can you make a call from a phone with the Wi-Fi on a plane?

Sorry if I sound stupid with these questions!!!!

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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:30 pm

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 10):
These will probably get dial-up or something horrible like that just to match the general feel and comfort-level of those planes

Ha. If I take one of these flights, I'll report back whether I heard that sounds dial-up makes.
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:06 pm

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 3):
It's a nice feature, but on those short hops I wonder how many people will really take advantage of it. I have trouble justifying it on BDL-DTW, I couldn't imagine trying to on MSP to like LSE.
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The point is that the >50 seat RJs are used on longer flights, with 3+ hour flights not being particularly difficult to find. Sure, it may not be justifiable on BDL-DTW or MSP-LSE, but I'm sure many people will be glad to have internet on routes like STL-SLC, MCI-LAX, MEM-PHX, etc.
 
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:18 pm

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 11):
I have not researched Wi-Fi

I have only used WiFi on a plane once. On 8/27/2009 at ATL I was handed a coupon for free WiFi at my gate. I tried it on DL1858 ATL-BOS N902DE. I only had my iPhone with me but I was able to use Yahoo Messenger, post a pic of the engine on facebook... I thought I worked very well. I have no idea what the pricing structure is. I am flying to ATL on DL again this week and my flight is showing that WiFi would be available. I might pay to try it again.

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Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:42 pm

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 11):
I have not researched Wi-Fi on commercial flights at all. Can someone tell me how well it works, and is it fast? Also, what is the average cost to use it? Do they charge by the minute?

If I'm not mistaken it's like a flat fee for 24hrs (so if you flew BOS-ATL-SAN for example you would be covered for the whole trip), and I think you can buy plans that allow monthly or yearly access if you fly a lot. I believe it kicks in at 10,000 feet, and when you go online it will prompt you to buy a plan or enter your access code if you've already purchased or have a plan. I think it works pretty much like wifi anywhere else, from what I hear - no better or worse. I seem to remember AirTran at some point having a thing where the Wifi was free for a limited time. Also I seem to remember from my last flight on Delta that if you have the Delta Iphone app it will work with the plane's Wifi and you don't have to buy a plan, thus you can check your connecting flight status and what not. That might have just been a weird dream I had or something, who knows. In the spirit of your question I haven't researched this or looked it up, this is all from memory so have at it.
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:50 pm

Quoting azjubilee (Reply 7):
Mainline a/c have wiFi and also operate short flights... so... what's the difference? The point is that the service will be available to the passenger should they want to take advantage of it, regardless of stage length.

Exactly! The 2-class RJs are operated on anything from 20 minute short-hops like ATL-GSP all the way up to some of the 3+ hour routes like DTW-DFW, MSP-YVR, MEM-BOS, MEM-PHX. No different than mainline too that operates routes long and short depending on the market and aircraft routings.

There are many different pricing options for go-go in-flight wireless:
1) Per-flight passes that can range for as low as $4.95 on the shorter routes up to I believe $12.95 on the longer routes
The price is adjusted based on the stage length.

Yes, I've paid for wifi on BDL-DTW, it was only $4.95, I had about an hour to get work done, and I really needed to be online to get some work done. I'd rather get my work done while I'm in the air than have to do it over the weekend.

2) 24 hour pass - this pass is good on as many flights as you fly within a 24 hour period. This is a great option if you have multiple flights (connections), are doing day-trips. This option can be more cost-effective than the per-flight option. Sure, someone may not want to pay for internet on BDL-DTW, but if they are flying BDL-DTW-LAX then it makes sense to get the day pass.

3) Monthly subscription - I'm not sure of the exact rate, but I think it is about $35 a month. For true road warriors, this again is a very cost-effective option.

Quoting toobz (Reply 9):
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 8):
Maybe I'm nitpicking, but doesn't the 744 or 772 have wifi?

Nope

Wi-fi is not installed on the international fleet since the system is only available over the continental United States since it used a land-based transmitter.

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 10):
Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
The 50-seaters (CR2s and ER4s) will not get Wi-Fi.

These will probably get dial-up or something horrible like that just to match the general feel and comfort-level of those planes.

Ha, let alone try to open an laptop computer on a CRJ. It can be quite a feat to read the screen.

I know the CRJs everyone loves to hate, but seriously they are fine for a short flights and into smaller markets. I think DL's policy got it right. tty good. It isn't as fast as a typical network connection but it works fine for email & web browsing.

I for one love the go-go system. Give me that any day over a PTV, and yes I will and don't mind paying for the service. The price is reasonable and it is great from both a productivity standpoint and also for entertainment. It sure beats landing late at night after a 3 hour flight only to be slammed with 30+ emails, when now you can respond in the air. It is also great since I can use my company's IM communicator or g-chat to get in touch with others. When traveling for leisure, there is more than enough to read on the internet to keep me busy for a few hours.
 
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:51 pm

Delta 24 hour pass = $12.95
Delta 24 hour pass purchase before flight = $11
Delta Traveler = $34.95

Connection speed = same as on land

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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:15 pm

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 17):
Delta gogo

That's what they were promoting and gave me a card with a promo code.

It worked pretty well as far as I remember. These days everybody has a tablet so WiFi can really be utilized. I hate pulling out the laptop in coach. There's never enough space.
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:33 pm

I for one am a regular user when I'm on mainline. I've never purchased a monthly pass though, unless I have a lot of mainline flights) because out west from SLC I'm on a lot of CRJs. Now that they're putting these on the 700s and 900s, it would probably be worth it. What frustrates me is how often the pricing changes. SLC-PHX sometimes it's $4.95, sometimes it's $9.95. I'm not sure why it changes on the same flight. Sometimes it's 4.95 on the way, then 9.95 on the way home. Sometimes if you log in towards the end of the flight, it only charges you $4.95. Sometimes if you're on an iPad, it charges you a mobile rate, sometimes it charges you the regular rate. Sometimes they give you a promo code like "dietcokegogo" which makes it free, or sometimes it only gives you 30 min for free. If you buy before your flight online when you check in, it's discounted, but you can only buy a day pass or month pass (not a flight pass) if it's discounted. All my flights are non-stop and 2hrs or less, so that's not saving anything for me. The pricing is a mess...

Since I usually expense the cost when I'm on a business trip, i'm not too concerned, but I wish they would build a consistent pricing structure.
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:33 pm

It's essentially slots of 3.1Mbit 3G EVDO rA 2.5MHz slices (CDMA2000) with mobile phone towers pointed up instead of down across the continental US and I believe Canada with maybe Mexico.

They just installed a embedded 3G modem on the plane pointed down, and yes it uses specific FCC licensed frequencies so it ONLY operates over land.
 
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:02 am

Quoting KingFriday013 (Thread starter):
and largest (261-seat B767-300) aircraft

What about LH? FlyNet is up and running on some of the A333s/A340s and 744s.
 
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Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:44 pm

LH Fly Net is Satellite based.. GoGo is Ground based ...

FlyNet rates
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Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:25 pm

Quoting Grid (Reply 12):

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Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:23 pm

I have taken Southwest and used their wi-fi on an ORF-LAS flight a few months ago, and it was amazing to be able to watch a netflix movie, although, it had to stop a few times to stream, but considering how many were on it was great!

But, I am curious on something else, what if you were flying a 172, for example, could you pick up the signal and connect? (assuming you paid for it of course)
 
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Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:54 pm

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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:33 pm

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 15):
. Also I seem to remember from my last flight on Delta that if you have the Delta Iphone app it will work with the plane's Wifi and you don't have to buy a plan, thus you can check your connecting flight status and what not

Correct. You can also access delta.com for free from your computer if you want
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:42 pm

I thought that there were issues in use of electronic gadgets in flight.

Or is WIFI different.
 
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RE: First Regional Jet With Wi-Fi!

Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:19 am

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Reply 15):

For the Delta employees, DeltaNet is free as well. Always nice to check your company email or Travelnet  
Quoting MNMncrcnwjr (Reply 22):

DL will be testing streaming capabilities for GoGo some time starting this quarter or the next. It will enable them (GoGo) to offer TV shows/movies etc. Should roll out officially early 2012.
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Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:38 am

I was on DL1001 BOS-ATL today (N648DL - B752) and it had GoGo. I was very pleased with the performance and the pricing options. I bought 15 minutes for $2 which was enough to respond to a few emails and chat a bit on Skype. I even used voice on Skype but it was too loud in the cabin for a successful call.

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