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Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:07 am

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=3

With the delivery of a new 77W Air Austral has offloaded ILFC-owned 772ER F-OPAR, which is going to Russian Orenair.
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:10 pm

Hi !

Quoting na (Thread starter):

With the delivery of a new 77W

It's actually a 77L and I suspect they will return another 777-200/ER when they take deliveyr of the next 77L.

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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:47 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 1):
It's actually a 77L and I suspect they will return another 777-200/ER when they take deliveyr of the next 77L.

Thanks for rectifying me. I only remembered they got a new 777 in the last weeks, and thought it would be a 77W like the last one. I guess the next 77E leaving will go to Orenair then as well.
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:05 pm

Slightly off-topic, but Air Austral has A380s on order, correct? Will they be parking any planes when they take delivery of their first A380?
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:20 pm

Quoting bonusonus (Reply 3):
Slightly off-topic, but Air Austral has A380s on order, correct? Will they be parking any planes when they take delivery of their first A380?

The two A380s ordered will come in in 2014 and 2015 if I´m not mistaken. By then the current small fleet of three 77Ws and the two 77Ls coming in now will still be almost brandnew. I´m pretty sure the remaining two 77Es will be gone by then though. What I dont know is wether the 77Ws will be replaced by the A380s. But as they have a different configuration I do not think so.
If the 77Ws stay, which I think is highly likely as the two 77Ls serve a different role than the three 77Es being phased out, it would be a massive fleet growth, as the A380s will be the first of the type carrying 800+ all-eco passengers. Maybe they are meant for a planned massive tourism growth on Reunion which is quite a big island.
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:25 pm

Quoting na (Reply 4):
The two A380s ordered will come in in 2014 and 2015 if I´m not mistaken. By then the current small fleet of three 77Ws and the two 77Ls coming in now will still be almost brandnew. I´m pretty sure the remaining two 77Es will be gone by then though. What I dont know is wether the 77Ws will be replaced by the A380s. But as they have a different configuration I do not think so.
If the 77Ws stay, which I think is highly likely as the two 77Ls serve a different role than the three 77Es being phased out, it would be a massive fleet growth, as the A380s will be the first of the type carrying 800+ all-eco passengers. Maybe they are meant for a planned massive tourism growth on Reunion which is quite a big island

As far as I remember they said the A380 would be for there new low cost start up...
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:25 pm

Finally I can talk about this! My dad got this mission in May, to get a 6 year old or less 772 (not necessarily ER) and sell it to a Russian friend of his, so he was the man who dealt between him and Air Austral. I was helping him thru this and in the end this was the best choice. I've heard it will maybe be in a all-business class config. In early August, he got to CDG and to the AF maintenance base (where Air Austral has their maintenance) and checked the plane. Good to see its finally thru!
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:25 am

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 6):
in the end this was the best choice.

What other 777's were available to make this choice from?

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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:02 am

Since arriving in SIN on 2 September 2011, F-OPAR has been given a new engine and a new coat of paint (Orenair's livery). Hopefully, an air test flight will soon be conducted.

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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:37 am

Quoting kissK (Reply 5):
Quoting na (Reply 4):
The two A380s ordered will come in in 2014 and 2015 if I´m not mistaken. By then the current small fleet of three 77Ws and the two 77Ls coming in now will still be almost brandnew. I´m pretty sure the remaining two 77Es will be gone by then though. What I dont know is wether the 77Ws will be replaced by the A380s. But as they have a different configuration I do not think so.
If the 77Ws stay, which I think is highly likely as the two 77Ls serve a different role than the three 77Es being phased out, it would be a massive fleet growth, as the A380s will be the first of the type carrying 800+ all-eco passengers. Maybe they are meant for a planned massive tourism growth on Reunion which is quite a big island

As far as I remember they said the A380 would be for there new low cost start up...

I hope to visit Reunion one day, it seems to me a very interesting island with a great landscapes (volcanoes!) and beautiful diving opportunities. Flights are immensely expensive though, € 1800 from AMS in Y. So, perhaps this A380 LCC will make it more affordable. Will be interesting to see how Reunion airport can cope with 840 pax from one flight...
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:29 am

Quoting na (Reply 4):

Could we see the 77Ls heading on some serious long haul? I'm thinking North America here...

Also, if the A380s are to fly for UU then surely we cannot expect them to be 800+ seats? They have a 'J' and 'W' product, so I'd think that something in the low/mid-700s would be more realistic now, even if it was intended to be 800+ back when they were ordered years ago.
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:49 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 10):
Could we see the 77Ls heading on some serious long haul? I'm thinking North America here...

According to wikipedia the 77Ls have been bought to offer direct flights from Mayotte, another overseas departement close to Madagascar, to France, something the 77E and 77W cannot do mainly due to the restricted airport there.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 10):
Also, if the A380s are to fly for UU then surely we cannot expect them to be 800+ seats? They have a 'J' and 'W' product, so I'd think that something in the low/mid-700s would be more realistic now, even if it was intended to be 800+ back when they were ordered years ago.

When ordered, all Eco-service was intended for these planes. Odd, but thats what they said. Only reason that makes sense is France plans to boost Reunion tourism.

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 9):
I hope to visit Reunion one day, it seems to me a very interesting island with a great landscapes (volcanoes!) and beautiful diving opportunities.

A friend of mine, who´s going to visit me this weekend was there last May for a trekking holiday. He was impressed.
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:51 am

Hi !

The 77Ls are meant for DZA-CDG and are needed because of the short runway there. The extra thurst of GE90-110Bs will help UU fly a full load to CDG that the PW 4090 cannot.

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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:12 am

Quoting na (Reply 11):
According to wikipedia the 77Ls have been bought to offer direct flights from Mayotte, another overseas departement close to Madagascar, to France, something the 77E and 77W cannot do mainly due to the restricted airport there.
Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
The 77Ls are meant for DZA-CDG and are needed because of the short runway there. The extra thurst of GE90-110Bs will help UU fly a full load to CDG that the PW 4090 cannot.

Well that's a bit boring!!
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:51 am

AFAIK the A380 will indeed be all Y with 800+ seats and be used for flights not (only) to Reunion but also to the French Carribbean. Talk about competition to those destinations: Air France, Air Caraibes, the UU low cost...
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:00 am

Does anyone know how they are doing on their Reunion-Sydney-Noumea flights. There is virtually no advertising here in the Australian market to either Noumea or Reunion, or even onwards to France, which seems like a lost opportunity to me. A trip to Paris with a stopover in Reunion or Mauritius sounds very enticing. Reunion would admittedly have to do a bit of a tourism push here though as many people don't know where it is.

I've heard that Austral is not necessarily interested in the Australian market but is there really enough demand for France-Noumea, especially when passengers can fly Noumea-Tokyo-Paris?

I have to say that I didn't expect to see Austral's Australian flights to still be around, although it's great to see such an exotic carrier on our shores.
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:10 am

Anyone able to tell me why I saw an Air Austral 772 at BKK a few weeks back?
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:14 am

Quoting Chrisba777er (Reply 16):
Anyone able to tell me why I saw an Air Austral 772 at BKK a few weeks back?

Maybe the one returned to lessor on a ferry flight?
 
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:29 am

F-OPAR? Hmmm... I remember seeing it when it was still EI-CRS back in the Air Europe Italy days...

Good to see that it is still finding places of employment !
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:41 am

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 9):
I hope to visit Reunion one day, it seems to me a very interesting island with a great landscapes (volcanoes!) and beautiful diving opportunities.

My birth place. It is indeed quite amazing, a bit like Hawaï, but I advised Madagascar though.

Quoting Chrisba777er (Reply 16):
Anyone able to tell me why I saw an Air Austral 772 at BKK a few weeks back?

AFAIK, they took over from Air Madagascar on the TAN-RUN-BKK run, albeit they only do the RUN-BKK bit. So it is a regular flight normally.
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RE: Air Austral Returns 777 To Lessor

Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:35 pm

Quoting Chrisba777er (Reply 16):

Anyone able to tell me why I saw an Air Austral 772 at BKK a few weeks back?

Simple answer : because they are flying to BKK

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