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G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:16 pm

G4 tweeted this about an hour ago:

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We'll be announcing service in a new city tomorrow! Can you guess where?
http://twitter.com/#!/allegianttravel/status/113279195060256769

Any guesses as to the new city?
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:39 pm

This is random, but I saw G4 at CAK on Friday and they were doing ground work, and a lot of random ramp stuff. I thought it might have been a charter, but it may have been more.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:54 pm

I'm going to go with Helena. It's the last remaining city in Montana they don't serve
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:03 pm

Couple Ideas:

IAG (Niagara Falls) seems to have had some recent success with second teir airlines to leisure cities (Spirit, Vision and Direct Air).

Westover MA (Springfield) former Skybus "Hartford" applied for a SCASD grant for G4 type service.
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:15 pm

Several months ago CKV; 55 miles NW of BNA on the TN/KY state line had mentioned they wanted to woo a carrier to Orlando. CKV is recognized as a corporate airport. A new terminal is currently under construction. The airport is adjacent to the Fort Campbell, KY Army Post and is the 10th largest base in DoD.

Ozark flew there in several times a week in the late 70's and or early 80's
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:15 pm

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 3):

IAG (Niagara Falls) seems to have had some recent success with second teir airlines to leisure cities (Spirit, Vision and Direct Air).

Westover MA (Springfield) former Skybus "Hartford" applied for a SCASD grant for G4 type service.

IAG is a great possibility for that region. I don't see Westover though. I think ORH would be the most likely city if its a NE city, followed behind PSM maybe?
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:11 pm

Quoting apodino (Reply 5):
. I think ORH would be the most likely city if its a NE city, followed behind PSM maybe?

Im surprised that neither one of those worked for G4 earlier. ORH might be a little to close to the competition with WN in BOS PVD MHT and BDL and B6 in BOS and BDL and probably PVD within a couple years.

PSM I think went away during the sjybus era and fuel spike, so maybe conditions have improved.
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:22 pm

I think PVU has great potential in the G4 network. LAS and IWA obviously come to mind but LAX and SAN could work as well.
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:38 pm

Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 6):
ORH might be a little to close to the competition with WN

Didnt Allegiant serve ORH about 5 years ago and stopped service? The airport was empty until Direct Air showed up about three years after G4 left.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:39 pm

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 4):


Ozark flew there in several times a week in the late 70's and or early 80's

A tad bit more than that!

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OZ Flt 808: CKV-SDF daily FK7
OZ Flt 823: CKV-PAH-STL-COU-MCI daily FK7

Effective 9/1/1976

They were gone by 1979 however...
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:50 pm

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the possibility of Allegiant at GYY. G4 flies casino charters in there often, but hasn't started scheduled service yet because of railroad tracks near GYY. Now that GYY's expansion (that will reroute the tracks) is well underway, I could see G4 starting SFB and/or PIE.

Quoting MetJetCEO (Reply 8):
Quoting rl757pvd (Reply 6):
ORH might be a little to close to the competition with WN

Didnt Allegiant serve ORH about 5 years ago and stopped service? The airport was empty until Direct Air showed up about three years after G4 left.

You are correct. I don't think G4 will return, as Worcester's mayor called publicly labeled G4 a "charlatan" for (in his opinion) failing to live up to the city's contractual obligations. G4 stated that they left ORH because of poor loads and package sales, along with the above-average price of Jet A at ORH.
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:13 pm

Quoting MetJetCEO (Reply 1):
This is random, but I saw G4 at CAK on Friday and they were doing ground work, and a lot of random ramp stuff. I thought it might have been a charter, but it may have been more.

I would say most likely a charter.
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:28 pm

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 9):

Thanks for the nostalga
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:15 pm

Quoting MetJetCEO (Reply 1):
This is random, but I saw G4 at CAK on Friday and they were doing ground work, and a lot of random ramp stuff. I thought it might have been a charter, but it may have been more.

This was a charter for the Louisiana-Lafayette Ragin Cajuns for their game against Kent State last Saturday. The airplane and crew spent the night in CAK Friday night and flew the team home after the game Saturday.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:33 am

Quoting MetJetCEO (Reply 1):
This is random, but I saw G4 at CAK on Friday and they were doing ground work, and a lot of random ramp stuff. I thought it might have been a charter, but it may have been more.

With the 3rd highest load factors in the Allegiant Air system and the 2nd lowest overhead cost, I don't think Allegiant will choose to go to CAK when they have those two perks an hour away in Youngstown (YNG).
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:58 am

Quoting YNGguins (Reply 14):

didn't stop them from going to Chattanooga
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:29 am

Quoting YNGguins (Reply 14):
With the 3rd highest load factors in the Allegiant Air system and the 2nd lowest overhead cost, I don't think Allegiant will choose to go to CAK when they have those two perks an hour away in Youngstown (YNG).

If FL/WN leaves CAK ( don't think that'll happen ) G4 could have an exponentially larger CAK operation than they ever will at YNG. Excellent cheer-leading as always my friend.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:31 am

YKM YKM YKM YKM please!!!!!!!!
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:38 am

IAG i could see. TTN if the NIMBYs don't go crazy again? one daily flight to florida during the day can it really be that bad?

Maybe ACY. Its seems to be a great market to Florida? I know spirit owns that airport but i could see allegiant rolling in and doing very well.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:14 am

Everytime this type of G4 thread comes up it feels like the a.net guess-the-airport lottery, and because I know that someday it will definitely happen, I'm going to put my guess in for MHK - Manhatan Kansas, because one of these days I'll be right.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:00 am

My gut tells me something out west. Focus seems to have shifted to IWA recently and I think there are still a few places you can hit IWA and LAS from out west and turn a buck. I'm not sure where but last time this came up I mentioned I thought CIC might make a good addition to the map.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:10 pm

I was on the Allegiant Web site this morning and noticed that in October G4 will begin 2x a week service from Stockton to Palm Springs. I wish them well on this new service and hope for LAX some day.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:05 pm

It looks like the new city is AVL with flights to SFB.


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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:44 pm

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 22):

It looks like the new city is AVL with flights to SFB.

That's not at all unexpected. With the departure of WN/FL from AVL this is a good opportunity for them.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:30 pm

Niagara Falls, NY is the newest city with non-stop service to Las Vegas! IAG is the winner! I called Allegiant and verified the information with customer service.

Unless the agent was incorrect, Niagara Falls is the newest destination for Allegiant.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:46 pm

No IAG on the route map
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:37 pm

Quoting MetJetCEO (Reply 1):

MetJet..seems G4 pop's into CAK once in a while I've seen then there twice now. Though I haven't back now in 3 years.
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:49 pm

Well with G4 taking over PHF and AVL to SFB, one has to wonder how far behind MLI-SFB is
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:20 pm

Quoting clemsonaj (Reply 23):
That's not at all unexpected. With the departure of WN/FL from AVL this is a good opportunity for them.

My first reaction was "Uh-oh, G4 must be preparing to shift operations in this region to AVL, now that WN is in town!".  Wow! But on a local forum on a city/metro area-oriented website, a poster swears their LF if upwards of 95% at GSP. So, maybe there's enough market in this region for both(?)...   
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:30 pm

G4's website shows AVL on their interactive map.
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:24 am

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 28):
My first reaction was "Uh-oh, G4 must be preparing to shift operations in this region to AVL, now that WN is in town!".   But on a local forum on a city/metro area-oriented website, a poster swears their LF if upwards of 95% at GSP. So, maybe there's enough market in this region for both(?)...

There's plenty of demand for both. FL has done very well at AVL (even with both G4 and WN down the road at GSP), demonstrating there's a market for G4 at AVL. G4 will now have a solid presence at three of the region's airports: GSP, TRI and AVL..
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:51 am

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 28):
But on a local forum on a city/metro area-oriented website, a poster swears their LF if upwards of 95% at GSP.

If true that's great for both GSP and G4. Especially since they are competing almost directly with WN on the GSP-Orlando market (almost because I realize that one is to MCO and the other to SFB). I've never taken the opportunity to fly G4 out of GSP, but from the folks I have spoken with they loved the service. It seems they have developed a good following here.




Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 30):
FL has done very well at AVL (even with both G4 and WN down the road at GSP), demonstrating there's a market for G4 at AVL.

Too bad it just doesn't fit the WN model. I was hoping to get a chance to take that flight one day, but it doesn't look like it will happen.

Congrats to AVL on your new service!
 
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RE: G4 To Announce New City Tomorrow

Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:42 pm

Quoting AVLAirlineFreq (Reply 30):
G4 will now have a solid presence at three of the region's airports: GSP, TRI and AVL..

Also TYS and CHA. G4 has the Smoky Mountain region well covered.
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