|Quoting RobK (Reply 4):|
Usually the mandala guy and the HB-IWC guy usually chime in as they both live out there and are involved with Indonesia aviation afaik. I will send them both a pm.
I blame RobK for my involvement in this topic!
|Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):|
Does anyone (Mandala499?) have any perspective on whether the poor safety culture exposed by prior incidents has improved at all, with all the new pilots that this huge expansion must have brought aboard?
I'm happy for their growth -- I just hope it is happening safely.
Safely??? Well, in July/August, the government grounded 12 or so of Lion's aircraft for "safety reasons"...
Well, what's the safety reason? Lack of pilots... last year it was found/alleged that the crew's annual hours (1050hrs) were busted, and then the monthly (110hrs) was found to be busted, and the grounding "to reduce the aircraft flying" is due to the weekly hour limitation (30hrs). In the end, they reduced the daily utility per aircraft to meet the limitations.
The airline expansion is severely curtailed due to lack of pilots, which translated into overworked pilots, and engineers, which translated into... safety. Hard work by "reformers" inside the company is improving things in many ways, but, the improvements can be done one step at a time. Let's hope these guys continue the improvements and not get thrown out by the "despicables" (ie: those preferring blatant violation of safety).
|Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 6):|
Congrats to Lion Air, "only" 125 more to be delivered then?
4.9c US$ vs 4.1c US$ ?
Lion is still very "manual based", Air Asia is very much integrated and automated... hence, they can go down and stay down in terms of cost... Eg: Lion Air still use manual flight planning, Air Asia uses computerized flight planning, the latter, allows performance optimization, fuel savings methods, etc, etc etc....
|Quoting lightsaber (Reply 9):|
Congrats to Lion Air. I didn't realize they had grown so much!
Well, it's the 50th 739ER they took delivery from Boeing. Doesn't include the used ones (some of which has been returned to lessor)
737CL: 9 (2 733s fully used, 6 734s nicely used, 8-9hrs per aircraft a day, and 1 734 on C-check rotation almost all the time)
737NG: 50 (and see above), utility is down from 8-9hrs a day...
744: 2, rumored to may leave the fleet soon, and both fly a total of about 10 (yes, TEN) hours a month together (not each!)
MD80: 2 + 2 spares + 2 on a looong C-check...
MD90: 2 flying (1 stored, lack of spares)
The ATR numbers are growing, now about a dozen of them... (yes, flies with Wings, but they're the same AOC
The previous rumors are that they'll take only up to 60 NGs, (and they're trying to convert whatever else to 738s due to easier financing). And, what are they going to do with the rest of the NGs? Well, Lion Air Malaysia version 2 is now "in motion" (Lion Air Berjaya) they said.. the other ventures like in Australia, Vietnam, etc, seems to have collapsed. There is no way to take 178 NGs to fly in the low fare market here... and Lion's attempts to go asa fully fledged LCC has failed, and attempts to go full service has largely failed, with only a few routes that can support a business class for its clientelle... it's stuck in the LFC ground (Low Fare Carrier), and costs are just going to go up. So?
Maybe this is their current "solution" to "how to take 178 NGs?" http://bit.ly/rpv3oQ
Rumors are, that Wings are going to separate, and go into the Full Service market... ironically, originally, Wings Air was given the MD80s to become the LCC wing of Lion... but both ended up being dragged into becoming an LFC... Now with Lion unable to move into the premium sector (for various reasons), well, Wings Air's cleaner image, might be the easiest way to go and soak up the remaining NGs, and flood the premium market... *shakes head*
Anyways, it's good to see this bird (and the birds) in Jakarta...