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Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:12 pm



For the 41st edition, we will feature the entry of Redjet Airlines into the Jamaican market...

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/167764_10150396620480215_533935214_17187025_4353408_n.jpg

After a lengthy political delay, Redjet received approval to service Jamaica from both Port of Spain and Barbados..Earlier this week at a press conference, it was announced that service will start to Kingston eff Nov 20..



Service days are as follows:

BGI-KIN-BGI
Mon,Wed and Fri

BGI-KIN
9:00-11:05a

KIN-BGI
12:05-15:55
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/180300_10150103309135233_551385232_6713500_5769013_n-1.jpg

POS-KIN-POS
Tues, Thur and Sun

POS-KIN
9:45-11:45a

KIN-POS
14:45-18:30

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/247562_1731529054913_1439113732_1393645_2690207_n.jpg


Updates:

Eff MAr 2012, BA will once again suspend services to MBJ...At the same time, KIN will be increased from twice weekly to three..

BW opened a new route from KIN to MCO..The service will operate twice a week and is linked to POS on both legs..The service will increase to 3 weekly for the winter...

CM will return to MBJ in Dec, with a twice weekly service

Further updates can be found in the old thread.

Jam Air Shuttle..Jamaican Thread# 40.. (by hummingbird Jul 17 2011 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2011-09-16 11:34:16]
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:14 pm

Quoting hummingbird (Thread starter):
For the 41st edition, we will feature the entry of Redjet Airlines into the Jamaican market...

Interesting theme for the 41st thread considering the many '' hurdles '' RD faced a few months ago and also the fact that the Caribbean's first LCC will be inaugurating Jamaican services in a few weeks time.

Quoting hummingbird (Thread starter):
Service days are as follows:

I thought flights to both POS and BGI were 2x weekly each as opposed to 3x. At least that was what they said on the local news here in Jamaica. Is it that they will initially start with 2x weekly and gradually upgrade to 3x during peak periods or is it the news got the frequency all wrong ?

Quoting hummingbird (Thread starter):
Eff MAr 2012, BA will once again suspend services to MBJ...At the same time, KIN will be increased from twice weekly to three.

I wish BA was going to stay in MBJ this time around but I guess being such a fiercely competitive and tourist centric route it just was not working out for them.

Quoting JM017 (Reply 215):
Well, MBJ is swamped with charters from the UK. It's a tough market. And a leisure-focused one.

Indeed it is. I am very curious to see if VS will up their LGW-MBJ services to 3x weekly considering this is the second carrier that will be axing MBJ from their list of leisure destinations.
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:32 am

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 1):
Indeed it is. I am very curious to see if VS will up their LGW-MBJ services to 3x weekly considering this is the second carrier that will be axing MBJ from their list of leisure destinations.

Maybe BA and VS did a deal  
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:17 am

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 1):
Interesting theme for the 41st thread considering the many '' hurdles '' RD faced a few months ago and also the fact that the Caribbean's first LCC will be inaugurating Jamaican services in a few weeks time.

I forgot to mention, they are also looking at a UVF to PTY via BGI....This service would be a code share with CM...

Hopefully, they will elaborate on their plans to open a base in KIN..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 1):
I thought flights to both POS and BGI were 2x weekly each as opposed to 3x. At least that was what they said on the local news here in Jamaica. Is it that they will initially start with 2x weekly and gradually upgrade to 3x during peak periods or is it the news got the frequency all wrong ?

My correction,POS will start as 2 weekly, but will increase after Dec 13 to three..BGI will start at 3 weekly...

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 1):
I wish BA was going to stay in MBJ this time around but I guess being such a fiercely competitive and tourist centric route it just was not working out for them.
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 1):
Indeed it is. I am very curious to see if VS will up their LGW-MBJ services to 3x weekly considering this is the second carrier that will be axing MBJ from their list of leisure destinations.
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 2):
Maybe BA and VS did a deal

According to the news, the withdrawal was based on economics....I thought this route was rev guarantee or did The JTB pull their support..If the JTB pulled their support, I figure the entry of BW on the London- Jamaica market was a deciding factor..BA increased their service to KIN which indicates, BW may only serve KIN nonstop twice a week, while serving MBJ 3-4 to compensate for the loss of TCX....
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:13 pm

Jamaica is set to receive direct air service from Paris..JAMVAC will shortly sign an agreement with Look Voyages from France..

At the same time another agreement will be signed with PAL Airlines, Chile to transport passengers from Santiago..

Redjet, who recently launched services to KIN, has listed MBJ as a future city...



Looks like MBJ has not been the only victim of service reductions from BA...

BGI will see a reduction from 10 flights to 7.

SJU and TAB will be operated 1 weekly...

According to BA, flights to MBJ were pulled based on the low sales in the premium cabin...

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110917/business/business5.html

VS on the other hand will be upgrading their fleet and adding more premium seats to their cabin in 2012..Flights will be added to BGI, HAV, TAB and GND..

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...ision-to-pull-out-of-MoBay_9728910
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:18 pm

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 4):
According to BA, flights to MBJ were pulled based on the low sales in the premium cabin...

Instead of operating a 4 class aircraft they should have down graded to a 3 or even a 2 class aircraft.
 
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:18 pm

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 4):

According to BA, flights to MBJ were pulled based on the low sales in the premium cabin...

Precisely why it was cancelled the last time.
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Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:24 pm

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 3):
... while serving MBJ 3-4 to compensate for the loss of TCX....

And they would still have the same problem as BA, unless there is some sort of revenue guarantee from the JTB.
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:52 pm

XL Airways will serve MBJ from CDG, with a one weekly service using the A330..

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 5):
Instead of operating a 4 class aircraft they should have down graded to a 3 or even a 2 class aircraft.

A 3 class aircraft was used to MBJ..Hopefully, if the JTB redefines the market to attract more premium clients, we may see a return of BA..

Quoting JM017 (Reply 6):
Precisely why it was cancelled the last time.
Quoting JM017 (Reply 7):
And they would still have the same problem as BA, unless there is some sort of revenue guarantee from the JTB.

With the help coming from the fuel subsidy and having an aircraft configured with two classes that will cater to the market, these problems may not arise..
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Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:58 pm

Well even if VS do 3 weekly MBJ-LGW and BA do 3 x weekly KIN x LGW that is still 1 x weekly or a 25% reduction in seatz to each destination - perhaps enough of a cut to increase prices and make a decent profit for both carriers to make the routes sustainable?
 
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:48 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 2):
Maybe BA and VS did a deal

Never looked at it from that perspective but it is also food for thought.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 3):
According to the news, the withdrawal was based on economics
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 4):
According to BA, flights to MBJ were pulled based on the low sales in the premium cabin...
Quoting JM017 (Reply 6):
Precisely why it was cancelled the last time.
Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 5):
Instead of operating a 4 class aircraft they should have down graded to a 3 or even a 2 class aircraft.

Yes this was also the reason given prior to their initial 7 year absence from MBJ. But I always wonder why don't they configure some of their aircraft accordingly to better service some routes so as to maximise on revenue. It must be very challenging for them to operate a 4 class metal to a leisure based destination such as MBJ. Non the less, apart from that it seem their over all loads there was not good, as according to the article, less than 50% of the seats were being filled.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 3):
I thought this route was rev guarantee or did The JTB pull their support..If the JTB pulled their support, I figure the entry of BW on the London- Jamaica market was a deciding factor

Myself thought it was a revenue guarantee one. Seem the JTB discontinued the subsidy.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 3):
BA increased their service to KIN which indicates, BW may only serve KIN nonstop twice a week, while serving MBJ 3-4 to compensate for the loss of TCX....
Quoting JM017 (Reply 7):
And they would still have the same problem as BA, unless there is some sort of revenue guarantee from the JTB.

It will be quite interesting to see how the BW/JM re-entry into London play out......especially out of MBJ if they decide to operate that sector.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 4):
Jamaica is set to receive direct air service from Paris..JAMVAC will shortly sign an agreement with Look Voyages from France..
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 8):
XL Airways will serve MBJ from CDG, with a one weekly service using the A330..

Welcome news. The A330 is an ideal aircraft for such a route. Hopefully this service will do well and will become a '' regular '' at MBJ.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 8):
A 3 class aircraft was used to MBJ..Hopefully, if the JTB redefines the market to attract more premium clients, we may see a return of BA..

Hopefully they will be back.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 8):
With the help coming from the fuel subsidy and having an aircraft configured with two classes that will cater to the market, these problems may not arise..

A 2 class config for that sector is a much better fit I think so we will see how it goes.

Quoting anstar (Reply 9):
Well even if VS do 3 weekly MBJ-LGW and BA do 3 x weekly KIN x LGW that is still 1 x weekly or a 25% reduction in seatz to each destination - perhaps enough of a cut to increase prices and make a decent profit for both carriers to make the routes sustainable?

I am just happy that both carriers will still serve the island and hopefully it will remain that way.
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:21 am

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 10):
It will be quite interesting to see how the BW/JM re-entry into London play out......especially out of MBJ if they decide to operate that sector.

IMHO KIN-MBJ-LHR-MBJ-KIN, 3-4 weekly 763 flights would make some good money if not breakeven.

  
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:40 am

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 10):
Yes this was also the reason given prior to their initial 7 year absence from MBJ. But I always wonder why don't they configure some of their aircraft accordingly to better service some routes so as to maximise on revenue. It must be very challenging for them to operate a 4 class metal to a leisure based destination such as MBJ. Non the less, apart from that it seem their over all loads there was not good, as according to the article, less than 50% of the seats were being filled.
BA will have to eventually realize the dynamics of the industry..With an increase in competition from charters carriers, they will have to adapt to the market by having a sub-fleet of leisure aircraft with a 2 class config, that is better suited for those environment......

The current config used to MBJ and KIN is 40J/24W/216Y..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 10):
Myself thought it was a revenue guarantee one. Seem the JTB discontinued the subsidy.

Looks like it was only for a year..But with Jamaica being the stars of London 2012, this will be an opportune time to increase brand awareness..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 10):
Welcome news. The A330 is an ideal aircraft for such a route. Hopefully this service will do well and will become a '' regular '' at MBJ.

Agree..Still missing ZUR, MOW and ARN

I was told Mr Bartlett was on the news last night, mentioning MBJ will be a hub for Chinese service to the region and connections to other destinations will be offered via BW..


The Chinese are looking to acquire the proposed multi-billion dollar Harmony Cove project..
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110918/news/news3.html

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Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:25 pm

Quoting speedbird2263 (Reply 11):
IMHO KIN-MBJ-LHR-MBJ-KIN, 3-4 weekly 763 flights would make some good money if not breakeven.

Should they decide to operate it with that type of routing, it would probably worth their while to do KIN-MBJ-LHR-MBJ-KIN on some days, and MBJ-KIN-LHR-KIN-MBJ on other days. This would ensure that they offer non-stops to/from London from both KIN and MBJ, as BA will offer non-stops to/from KIN and likewise VS will offer non-stops to/from MBJ.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 12):
BA will have to eventually realize the dynamics of the industry..With an increase in competition from charters carriers, they will have to adapt to the market by having a sub-fleet of leisure aircraft with a 2 class config, that is better suited for those environment......
The current config used to MBJ and KIN is 40J/24W/216Y..

Considering their B763s are based at LHR and they do not operate the A330s, probably they should consider using some of their future B788s to some Caribbean markets as those metals seem to be a much better fit than the B777s. With the hefty APD tax, ever soaring fuel prices, economic woes globally, I forsee further flight adjustments by them to the region if the situation doesn't change.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 12):
Still missing ZUR, MOW and ARN

Is WK still operating to MBJ seasonally ? Or was it a one time thing of the past ? I know they were down there at one point.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 12):
I was told Mr Bartlett was on the news last night, mentioning MBJ will be a hub for Chinese service to the region and connections to other destinations will be offered via BW..

Heard they mention something to that effect as well. But all of BW/JM's operation to other Caribbean destinations is out of KIN. So they will have to route those passengers from MBJ to KIN and onwards. Not certain they will find that additional transit leg attractive considering how far they will be originating from.
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:32 pm

DOT Stats Feb 2011

JM
FLL-KIN
13564-7600 56%

KIN-FLL
13410-7314 55%

FLL-MBJ
4312-2496 58%

MBJ-FLL
4312-2818 65%

JFK-KIN
8804-5155 58%

KIN-JFK
8962-4424 49%

JFK-MBJ
4004-2742 69%

MBJ-JFK
4004-2650 66%

PHL-MBJ
3978-2444 61%

MBJ-PHL
4124-2296 56%

Flights operated by NA for JM..
JFK-KIN
4555-2757 61%

KIN-JFK
4729-2686 57%

B6
BOS-MBJ
1050-841 80%

MBJ-BOS
1050-737 71%

JFK-KIN
4050-3480 86%

KIN-JFK
4050-3469 86%..Comparing the figures, the attempt to knock B6 off the market by dumping seats, was a big fail..

JFK-MBJ
4200-3669 87%

MBJ-JFK
4200-3443 82%

MCO-MBJ
3300-2073 63%

MBJ-MCO
3300-2290 69%

CO
EWR-MBJ
1488-1374 92%

MBJ-EWR
1479-1349 91%

IAH-MBJ
1283-953 74%

MBJ-IAH
1292-1043 81%

DL

ATL-MBJ
16251-12620 78%

MBJ-ATL
16245-12185 75%

DTW-MBJ
1052-900 86%

MBJ-DTW
1052-833 79%

JFK-MBJ
1268-893 70%

MBJ-JFK
1268-886 70%

MEM-MBJ
592-486 82%

MBJ-MEM
591-474 80%

MSP-MBJ
1211-1045 86%

MBJ-MSP
1211-947 78%

US

CLT-MBJ
13133-10135 77%

MBJ-CLT
12950-9599 74%

PHL-MBJ
6189-5007 81%

MBJ-PHL
6189-4670 75%

AA

DFW-MBJ
2388-1669 70%

MBJ-DFW
2388-1545 65%

MIA-KIN
12660-8555 68%

KIN-MIA
12660-8570 68%

MIA-MBJ
13654-10007 73%

MBJ-MIA
13518-9372 69%

ORD-MBJ
3016-2470 82%

MBJ-ORD
2856-2478 87%

FL
ATL-MBJ
3836-3354 88%

MBJ-ATL
3836-3024 79%

BWI-MBJ
4110-3484 85%

MBJ-BWI
3973-3310 83%

MCO-MBJ
2192-1217 55%

MBJ-MCO
2329-1478 63%

MBJ-MKE
1644-1380 84%

MKE-MBJ
1644-1440 88%

SY

LAN-MBJ
648-559 86%

MBJ-LAN
648-556 86%

MSP-MBJ
1458-1311 90%

MBJ-MSP
1620-1356 84%

NK

FLL-KIN
2303-1127 49%

KIN-FLL
2303-1105 48%

FLL-MBJ
3022-2197 73%

MBJ-FLL
3022-2130 70%

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 13):
Considering their B763s are based at LHR and they do not operate the A330s, probably they should consider using some of their future B788s to some Caribbean markets as those metals seem to be a much better fit than the B777s. With the hefty APD tax, ever soaring fuel prices, economic woes globally, I forsee further flight adjustments by them to the region if the situation doesn't change.

They need to follow the footsteps of Qantas and Jetstar, Swiss and Edelweiss and the former LH and DE..But, from what I am seeing, certain routes are being sustained due to Govt subsidies..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 13):
Is WK still operating to MBJ seasonally ? Or was it a one time thing of the past ? I know they were down there at one point.

It was a short lived service..
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:51 pm

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14):
DL

ATL-MBJ
16251-12620 78%

MBJ-ATL
16245-12185 75%

Losing that DL codeshare really didn't do JM justice...I wonder if the new JM/BW would do well to offer some sort of interline if not a full codeshare. Connectivity in ATL is the key me thinks.

  
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Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:44 pm

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14):
B6


JFK-KIN
4050-3480 86%

KIN-JFK
4050-3469 86%..

B6's stats particularly on the JFK route is quite impressive as usual.


Saw a notice in Friday's Gleaner re JM/BW's intention to restart flights to MIA and ORD. The C.A.A. Publication is as follows:

Applicant: Caribbean Airlines

Purpose For Which Service Is Intended: Scheduled services from Kingston to Miami & Kingston/Montego Bay to Chicago

Start Date: Nov. 1 2011

Routes: KIN-MIA-KIN

KIN-MBJ-ORD-KIN-MBJ

License Period Being Applied for:

KIN-MIA-KIN : Nov 1 2011 to Mar 31 2012

KIN-MBJ-ORD-KIN-MBJ : Nov 6 2011 to Mar 31 2012

Frequency: Daily ( for both routes )

Equip: B738


Well we previously heard of talks re both MIA and ORD being resumed. But I am wondering why a ORD-KIN-MBJ routing on the return leg with daily frequencies ? It would also appear as if the routes will be seasonal but time will tell. I think AA will be operating ORD-MBJ 5x or 6x weekly this winter ( ? )
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Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:57 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 16):
Well we previously heard of talks re both MIA and ORD being resumed. But I am wondering why a ORD-KIN-MBJ routing on the return leg with daily frequencies ? It would also appear as if the routes will be seasonal but time will tell. I think AA will be operating ORD-MBJ 5x or 6x weekly this winter ( ? )

ORD to KIN is a surprise. They may be better off doing ORD-MBJ-KIN and KIN-MBJ-ORD as ORD is primarily leisure, right?
And flights would be daily?

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 8):
With the help coming from the fuel subsidy and having an aircraft configured with two classes that will cater to the market, these problems may not arise..

Ah, I see your point. Makes sense. I wonder why it wasnt considered. I assume they have aircraft with two-class configuration...
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:00 am

Quoting speedbird2263 (Reply 15):
Losing that DL codeshare really didn't do JM justice...I wonder if the new JM/BW would do well to offer some sort of interline if not a full codeshare. Connectivity in ATL is the key me thinks.

They could, but if they were to use ATL, there is no way DL would allow them to fly to their hub..They would rather codeshare selling the seats as KIN-MBJ-ATL and vice versa..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 16):
B6's stats particularly on the JFK route is quite impressive as usual.

Their loads have been constant over that last year....
I always wonder if DL would re-open KIN-JFK as a summer service route?

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 16):
Well we previously heard of talks re both MIA and ORD being resumed. But I am wondering why a ORD-KIN-MBJ routing on the return leg with daily frequencies ? It would also appear as if the routes will be seasonal but time will tell. I think AA will be operating ORD-MBJ 5x or 6x weekly this winter ( ? )
Quoting JM017 (Reply 17):
ORD to KIN is a surprise. They may be better off doing ORD-MBJ-KIN and KIN-MBJ-ORD as ORD is primarily leisure, right?
And flights would be daily?

AA will operate ORD 6 per week....

The routing through KIN is a strategy..The selling points of this flights will be connections to POS,ANU,BGI and GEO...With Redjet serving competition on their regional routes,they must employ a way to increase revenue, while decreasing costs...That way, all flights going south and north of Jamaica are packed..

Quoting JM017 (Reply 17):
Ah, I see your point. Makes sense. I wonder why it wasnt considered. I assume they have aircraft with two-class configuration...

They have secured 2 ex LAN B763s..I expect it to have a 2 class config....
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:16 am

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 18):

They have secured 2 ex LAN B763s..I expect it to have a 2 class config....

I meant BA. i was wondering why they did not try using aircraft more appropriate to the MBJ market (i.e., two-class configuration).

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 18):
The routing through KIN is a strategy..The selling points of this flights will be connections to POS,ANU,BGI and GEO...With Redjet serving competition on their regional routes,they must employ a way to increase revenue, while decreasing costs...That way, all flights going south and north of Jamaica are packed..

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Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:58 pm

Quoting JM017 (Reply 17):
ORD to KIN is a surprise. They may be better off doing ORD-MBJ-KIN and KIN-MBJ-ORD as ORD is primarily leisure, right?
And flights would be daily?

From what I observed when JM was around in the '' Butch '' era, the ORD route was primarily leisure. I recall connecting to MBJ from KIN on JM 051 once and the A321 was virtually empty. You could count the few people who were continuing on to ORD. Also most times the return leg ( JM 050 ) either terminated in MBJ or continued on to BON )

Quoting JM017 (Reply 17):
I wonder why it wasnt considered. I assume they have aircraft with two-class configuration...
Quoting JM017 (Reply 19):
I meant BA. i was wondering why they did not try using aircraft more appropriate to the MBJ market (i.e., two-class configuration).

Myself always wondered same. Isn't that what other carriers such as VS do on leisure heavy routes such as MCO ? Make economic sense to me to have some aircraft specially configured for certain markets.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 18):
I always wonder if DL would re-open KIN-JFK as a summer service route?

Knowing how unpredictable DL is with their Caribbean ops I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 18):
The routing through KIN is a strategy..The selling points of this flights will be connections to POS,ANU,BGI and GEO...With Redjet serving competition on their regional routes,they must employ a way to increase revenue, while decreasing costs...That way, all flights going south and north of Jamaica are packed..

I can see the strategy they are going after. But is their a significant number of traffic from ORD to POS, GEO etc. to fill the south bound through KIN ? Also considering they would be competing for the connecting traffic to those destinations with AA via MIA, with the exception of GEO of course. Eager to see how it will play out.


Seem they are considering easing visa restrictions for some Latin American countries to attract more visitors from those regions to the island.........................


'' CABINET is to decide today whether it will relax visa restrictions for nationals of some Latin American countries in order to attract more Spanish-speaking tourists to our shores.
This is in tandem with a new tourism thrust to break into the Central and South American markets by introducing twice weekly Copa Airlines flights into Montego Bay come December. Copa will be connecting from some 58 cities in North, Central and South America. ''


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...a-ease-for-Latin-Americans_9745797


Hopefully connections through PTY via CM from some of these non traditional markets will be enough to make the service viable.
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:16 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 20):

Myself always wondered same. Isn't that what other carriers such as VS do on leisure heavy routes such as MCO ?

VS oly have the 2 class aircraft operating to MCO as an interim use of the A330's - they will be refitted with the new J seats next year and move back to LHR. They have also only been deployed on MCO as they have multiple flights a day from MAN/LGW so can still offer J capacity.
 
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:40 pm

Quoting JM017 (Reply 19):
I meant BA. i was wondering why they did not try using aircraft more appropriate to the MBJ market (i.e., two-class configuration).
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 20):
Myself always wondered same. Isn't that what other carriers such as VS do on leisure heavy routes such as MCO ? Make economic sense to me to have some aircraft specially configured for certain markets.

Their B767s are based in LGW..Eventually they may have to shift aircraft and make a decision similar to The Flying Colours deal, where they operated flights to routes such as MBJ, TPA, GND and KIN..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 20):
From what I observed when JM was around in the '' Butch '' era, the ORD route was primarily leisure. I recall connecting to MBJ from KIN on JM 051 once and the A321 was virtually empty. You could count the few people who were continuing on to ORD. Also most times the return leg ( JM 050 ) either terminated in MBJ or continued on to BON )

Looks like MBJ will be short changed on this route...

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 20):
Knowing how unpredictable DL is with their Caribbean ops I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to.

The A319 or B737 would be suitable for the route..They could operate into KIN 4-5 weekly...

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 20):
I can see the strategy they are going after. But is their a significant number of traffic from ORD to POS, GEO etc. to fill the south bound through KIN ? Also considering they would be competing for the connecting traffic to those destinations with AA via MIA, with the exception of GEO of course. Eager to see how it will play out.


The traffic may not be heavy, but when combined with O&D traffic from KIN, it will be enough to fill a B738....Also, KIN was chosen to maximize aircraft utilization..The inbound B738 will probably head south or do another northbound leg..The ATRs will probably do the KIN-MBJ-KIN legs...
I have a feeling ORD and MIA will be linked to their regional destinations..


Quoting airjamaica (Reply 20):
CABINET is to decide today whether it will relax visa restrictions for nationals of some Latin American countries in order to attract more Spanish-speaking tourists to our shores.
This is in tandem with a new tourism thrust to break into the Central and South American markets by introducing twice weekly Copa Airlines flights into Montego Bay come December. Copa will be connecting from some 58 cities in North, Central and South America. ''

I thought this was a given...
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According to our PM, Jamaica will be planning a major investment conference, aimed at bolstering the tourism industry..He also noted, " BW will be adding two more aircraft to their Jamaican operations and talks are far advanced with a US carrier to deploy turboprops aircraft to Boscobel Airport"..

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...estment-for-tourism-sector_9747098



PAL Airlines, Chile is mulling a withdrawal of services from MBJ, following the signing on Air Service Agreement between JAMVAc and Copa Airlines..

http://rjrnewsonline.com/business/pa...as-airlift-agreement-copa-airlines

[Edited 2011-09-19 09:46:14]
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:34 pm

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14):

Looking at those JM loads I dont see how they can claim that they arent losing money.
 
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:25 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 20):
'' CABINET is to decide today whether it will relax visa restrictions for nationals of some Latin American countries in order to attract more Spanish-speaking tourists to our shores.
This is in tandem with a new tourism thrust to break into the Central and South American markets by introducing twice weekly Copa Airlines flights into Montego Bay come December. Copa will be connecting from some 58 cities in North, Central and South America. ''

Must say I think most of us are ahead of GoJ on this....BZE removed all visa restrictions for LatAmericans (ex Colombia) last year and even Colombians can enter visa free if they have a valid US visa in their passport. Bahamas did the same I believe
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:32 pm

Quoting guyanam (Reply 23):
Looking at those JM loads I dont see how they can claim that they arent losing money.

Their Mar figures are a lot better then Feb..

BTW, The inaugural MCO flight which was full, flight had less than 10% ex KIN and KIN bound..


DOT Stats Mar

AA

DFW-MBJ
2880-2244 80%

MBJ-DFW
2878-2207 77%

MIA-KIN
1306410234 78%

KIN-MIA
12916-10554 82%

JFK-MBJ
5010-4143 83%

MBJ-JFK
4992-4271 86%

MIA-MBJ
15206-11580 77%

MBJ-MIA
14882-11036 74%

ORD-MBJ
3360-3101 92% ( IMPRESSIVE)

MBJ-ORD
3360-3110 93%

DL

ATL-MBJ
21304-16009 75%

MBJ-ATL
21144-16563 78%

DTW-MBJ
1465-1187 81%

MBJ-DTW
1466-1233 84%

JFK-MBJ
696-587 84%

MBJ-JFK
695-620 89%

MSP-MBJ
2211-1832 83%

MBJ-MSP
2211-1919 87%

MEM-MBJ
592-508 86%

MBJ-MEM
592-467 79%

US

CLT-MBJ
15157-13155 87%

MBJ-CLT
15157-13332 88%

PHL-MBJ
7362-6162 84%

MBJ-PHL
7362-6396 87%

CO

EWR-MBJ
2057-1861 90%

MBJ-EWR
2057-1820 88%

IAH-MBJ
1704-1558 91%

MBJ-IAH
1704-1537 91%

B6

BOS-MBJ
1350-920 68%

MBJ-BOS
1350-961 71%

JFK-KIN
4650-4174 89%..With the exception of the first two months, I don't think B6 loads have dropped below 80% on this route..

KIN-JFK
4650-4230 91%

JFK-MBJ
5250-4284 82%

MBJ-JFK
5250-3942 75%

MCO-MBJ
4650-3603 77%

MBJ-MCO
4650-3817 82%

FL

ATL-MBJ
4247-3624 85%

MBJ-ATL
4247-3672 86%

BWI-MBJ
5343-4764 89%..Looks like the increase in frequencies is bearing fruit..

MBJ-BWI
5343-4809 90%

MCO-MBJ
2466-1810 73%

MBJ-MCO
2466-1732 70%

MKE-MBJ
1781-1478 83%

MBJ-MKE
1781-1566 88%

SY

LAN-MBJ
648-560 86%

MBJ-LAN
648-565 87%

MSP-MBJ
2118-1735 82%

MBJ-MSP
2118-1865 88%

U5

ORD-MBJ
1512-1373 91%

MBJ-ORD
1512-1337 88%

STL-MBJ
672-562 84%

MBJ-STL
672-528 78%

NA flight operated for JM..

FLL-KIN
174-126 72%

JFK-KIN
5589-3748 67%

KIN-FLL
174-114 66%

KIN-JFK
3476-2698 78%

MBJ-JFK
1939-1452 74%

JM

FLL-KIN
13272-9727 73%

KIN-FLL
14534-10206 70%

FLL-MBJ
4686-3521 75%

MBJ-FLL
4532-3421 75%

JFK-MBJ
4774-3428 72%

MBJ-JFK
2926-2242 77%

PHL-MBJ
4654-3159 68%

MBJ-PHL
4796-3196 67%

NK

FLL-KIN
758-564 74%

KIN-FLL
758-672 88%

FLL-MBJ
3413-2626 77%

MBJ-FLL
3413-2808 82%
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:47 am

Quoting anstar (Reply 21):
They have also only been deployed on MCO as they have multiple flights a day from MAN/LGW so can still offer J capacity.

I have seen them at MCO many times. Usually I see 3 or 4 of them parked there in the afternoons preparing for their return journey across the '' pond ''.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 22):
Their B767s are based in LGW..

Could have sworn I read where their B763s are LHR based.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 22):
I thought this was a given...
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 24):
Must say I think most of us are ahead of GoJ on this....BZE removed all visa restrictions for LatAmericans (ex Colombia) last year and even Colombians can enter visa free if they have a valid US visa in their passport. Bahamas did the same I believe

Well if they want to be successful with this venture, they know what they will have to do where the visa requirement is concerned.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 25):


AA

ORD-MBJ
3360-3101 92% ( IMPRESSIVE)

Not bad considering they have competition from both UA and U5 on that sector. They should have utilized the B738 for it from day one.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 25):
FL

MCO-MBJ
2466-1810 73%

MBJ-MCO
2466-1732 70%

Not bad MCO stats for FL. I think this is the most impressive figure I have ever seen for them.


Over all these stats are quite impressive indeed with B6 standing out with their consistency as usual.
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:53 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26):
Could have sworn I read where their B763s are LHR based.

Yeah, thanks for the correction..I meant to say LHR..The B767s CAribbean destination are NAS,GCM and GCM...

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26):
Well if they want to be successful with this venture, they know what they will have to do where the visa requirement is concerned.

I also saw on the news, where they mentioned, they are looking to ease visa restrictions in countries located in the Eastern Europe..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26):
Not bad considering they have competition from both UA and U5 on that sector. They should have utilized the B738 for it from day one

ORD is a destination that performs well during the winter....If there is a recovery in the US economy this year, chances are the service will be daily..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26):
Not bad MCO stats for FL. I think this is the most impressive figure I have ever seen for them.

I am being told, the figures for the summer are also high...It looks like BWI is a strong performer on their newtork..Am waiting to see when they will increase ATL..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26):
ver all these stats are quite impressive indeed with B6 standing out with their consistency as usual.

I hope KIN and MBJ will see a year round increase from JFK..


The Chinese Premier and his delegation travelled on an Air China A330..
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA61


According to The JTB, arrival figures to date, have shown a 13.6% increase in arrivals...
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110920/lead/lead2.html

The new service from CM has been attracting media attention..According to The JTB, many Latin Americans have an interest in Jamaica, but are perturbed by the visa fees..The visa restrictions will be relaxed for citizens of Panama and Colombia, with plans to extend the same to other Latin countries...It is hoped, with more publicity, the CM will be daily in the future..
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110920/lead/lead6.html

Without giving details of individual carriers, The JTB have secured more than 1 milllion seats for the winter season..

Quote:
And with the largest contingent of Latin American tour operators and media at this year's JAPEX, Lynch said Jamaica's tourism sector will start seeing the benefits almost immediately with expectations of an increase by December when a number of chartered flights are scheduled to arrive from several Latin American gateways.

According to Lynch, not many airlines are willing to fly to a destination without revenue support as fuel accounts for some 30 per cent of the operating cost. Jamaica is, however, only providing marketing support to Copa Airlines.

Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...urist-season_9751426#ixzz1YUqjU9Nx
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:41 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26):
Not bad MCO stats for FL. I think this is the most impressive figure I have ever seen for them.

( * for the MCO-MBJ route that is )


As expected, holiday makers from the United Kingdom and other parts of Europe are seeking out less costly alternatives for vacations, and many seem to be opting for Florida instead of the Caribbean due to the spike in ticket prices as a result of the HUMONGOUS APD tax.....................


'' The airline executive said, with the reduction in demand, particularly among leisure travellers, BA has been forced to reduce the number of flights to the region by six per cent. Jamaica's Sangster International Airport is one of the casualties. Come March 25, 2012, the airline will move one of its two flights to Norman Manley, Kingston and VC Bird International, Antigua. ''


http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110920/business/business3.html


No surprises here at all............Thank you APD ( or its implementers I should say   )

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 27):
The B767s CAribbean destination are NAS,GCM and GCM...

And PLS.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 27):
I also saw on the news, where they mentioned, they are looking to ease visa restrictions in countries located in the Eastern Europe..

This visa relaxation regime for selected countries will be beneficial to their quest to tap into non traditional markets.


Quoting hummingbird (Reply 27):
ORD is a destination that performs well during the winter....If there is a recovery in the US economy this year, chances are the service will be daily..

Historically that has always been the case with that city and MBJ it seems, as evidenced by the number of T9 ( and a number of other charters ) that I used to see down there.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 27):
The Chinese Premier and his delegation travelled on an Air China A330..
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CCA61

Would have been great to see some photos of it at MBJ.
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Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:06 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 28):
Would have been great to see some photos of it at MBJ.

No sure if it's a case of them just using a CC flight number or if they got a different pick up in MBJ but I can assure you they arrived on a Royal Jet 73G BBJ in KIN yesterday. A6-RJY Very nice machine and friendly crew.

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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:22 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 28):
As expected, holiday makers from the United Kingdom and other parts of Europe are seeking out less costly alternatives for vacations, and many seem to be opting for Florida instead of the Caribbean due to the spike in ticket prices as a result of the HUMONGOUS APD tax.....................

All heading to Spain, Florida and Turkey....The only way these Britons will bypass this rule is flying through another EU country..

At least, BW will come in handy, with their fuel subsidy, they can keep tickets at an affordable rate...

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 28):
( * for the MCO-MBJ route that is )

The SW CEO mentioned, certain FL routes will be cut...If anything, I expect this route to become seasonal.....

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 28):
And PLS.

Thanks..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 28):
Would have been great to see some photos of it at MBJ.

These are a few shots from JIS..

http://www.jis.gov.jm/news/102-forei...affairs/28797-vice-premier-arrives



Per the latest OAG filing, MBJ will see increase for the winter from the following cities:
OAG Changes 9/23/2011: AA/B6/CO/DL/US (by enilria Sep 21 2011 in Civil Aviation)

Jetblue
BOS-MBJ will be increased from 3 to 4 per week..

USA3000
U5 ORD-MBJ JAN 0.3>0.1 FEB 0.3>0.1 MAR 0.3>0.2 APR 0.3>0.1 will reduce flights to 1 a week..

US
US PHL-MBJ JAN 1.3>1.7 FEB 1.3>1.9 MAR 1.5>3 APR 1.4>3 MAY 1.3>1.9 will peak at 3 daily in Apr and May...Could it be that BW has plans to drop PHL?
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:37 pm

Hello guys, I went abroad for three weeks so I wasn't active in the forum but I'm back again. I see some nice load factors for March to Jamaica, congratulations!!! Is there more clarity now at JM for re-introduction of the Curacao flight?

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Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:24 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 31):
Is there more clarity now at JM for re-introduction of the Curacao flight?

Nothing as yet..Hopefully, we will hear more when the first ATR arrives....



This is the latest breakdown for the winter season..

300,000 seats from Canada
700,000 seats from US
XL from Paris
Satena from Colombia
CM from Panana
PAL from Chile..I should note, they have an A330 in their fleet..

http://caricomnewsnetwork.com/index....rtlett&catid=38:tourism&Itemid=396

Still to come..Service from Russia and China..
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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:42 pm

Quoting speedbird2263 (Reply 29):
No sure if it's a case of them just using a CC flight number or if they got a different pick up in MBJ but I can assure you they arrived on a Royal Jet 73G BBJ in KIN yesterday. A6-RJY Very nice machine and friendly crew.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 30):
These are a few shots from JIS..

So it appear that an A330 took the delegation to MBJ and the Royal Jet B73G BBJ flew them from MBJ to KIN. Wouldn't it have been more cost effective and convenient to have the A330 continue to KIN instead of getting an additional aircraft for the short hop ?

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 30):
All heading to Spain, Florida and Turkey....The only way these Britons will bypass this rule is flying through another EU country..

At least, BW will come in handy, with their fuel subsidy, they can keep tickets at an affordable rate...

Seem like it will only get worst for travel between the UK and the region.............


'' The agents said while the majority of their clients are impressed with Jamaica's tourism product, they just cannot afford the increased taxes, especially for larger families.

'' The tax is at least 20 per cent more than the airfare to come to the Caribbean '' said Laghmouchi.

'' There are people who used to book for Jamaica three to four times a year, and now they book only once if at all '' he added.


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/UK-travel-tax-hurting


This resultant effect was more then expected.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 30):
Jetblue
BOS-MBJ will be increased from 3 to 4 per week..

Not bad. I recall JM used to operate BOS-MBJ 6x weekly at one point. But I always thought it was an over kill.

Quoting A388 (Reply 31):
Is there more clarity now at JM for re-introduction of the Curacao flight?

Haven't heard anything re BW starting KIN-CUR. The latest is the pending KIN-MIA and KIN-MBJ-ORD-KIN-MBJ.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 32):
This is the latest breakdown for the winter season..

300,000 seats from Canada
700,000 seats from US
XL from Paris
Satena from Colombia
CM from Panana
PAL from Chile..I should note, they have an A330 in their fleet..

http://caricomnewsnetwork.com/index....rtlett&catid=38:tourism&Itemid=396

Still to come..Service from Russia and China..

Hopefully a confirmed GRU announcement soon as well.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:59 am

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 33):
So it appear that an A330 took the delegation to MBJ and the Royal Jet B73G BBJ flew them from MBJ to KIN. Wouldn't it have been more cost effective and convenient to have the A330 continue to KIN instead of getting an additional aircraft for the short hop ?

Wow, when you big you big. Kind of decadent.

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Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:59 am

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 28):
This visa relaxation regime for selected countries will be beneficial to their quest to tap into non traditional markets.

Having been involved with the recent effort in BZE to ease the travel restrictions from LatAmerican nations, I can assure you it is not as easy and quick as one may think . I took us 2 years and we still had to exclude Colombia.

If we lived in a bubble it would be easy but our great friend to the north has a lot to say when it comes to visas. Every thing is about politics and uncle sam has a lot of clout.

I guess they believe we should help protect their borders.
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:01 pm

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 34):
Wow, when you big you big. Kind of decadent.

That still small thing. Lets see for Obama you got 2 747 at least 6-10 fighter escort aircraft a KC10 extender.
 
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:06 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 33):
So it appear that an A330 took the delegation to MBJ and the Royal Jet B73G BBJ flew them from MBJ to KIN. Wouldn't it have been more cost effective and convenient to have the A330 continue to KIN instead of getting an additional aircraft for the short hop ?

Talk about disposable income....

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 33):
Not bad. I recall JM used to operate BOS-MBJ 6x weekly at one point. But I always thought it was an over kill.

Its a tricky market...

BTW..I saw on the new where

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 33):
Hopefully a confirmed GRU announcement soon as well.

I hope the deal with GOL is still on the books..


More details about the winter services from Canada..

Thomas Cook Canada will operate 24 flights per week, up from 17 last season..

Sunwing will operate 17 flights, up from 7 last year..

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110922/business/business1.html
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:49 pm

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 36):


LOL, you're right, just not accustomed seeing this from most other nations.

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Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:23 pm

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 35):

Very interesting. In that case they should have started making preparations long ago.

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 34):
Wow, when you big you big. Kind of decadent.
Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 36):
That still small thing. Lets see for Obama you got 2 747 at least 6-10 fighter escort aircraft a KC10 extender.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 37):
Talk about disposable income....

Lol....When yuh large yuh jus' large !!

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 30):
US
US PHL-MBJ JAN 1.3>1.7 FEB 1.3>1.9 MAR 1.5>3 APR 1.4>3 MAY 1.3>1.9 will peak at 3 daily in Apr and May...Could it be that BW has plans to drop PHL?

US is not easing up on its PHL-MBJ stronghold. I still think BW should have targeted BWI or IAD over ORD though.
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Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:24 am

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 32):
Nothing as yet..Hopefully, we will hear more when the first ATR arrives....

Even the ATR72 would be very much welcomed here!!! 
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 32):
Still to come..Service from Russia and China..

Interesting development. Let's see which one will eventually happen. I personally see Russia definately happening.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 33):
Haven't heard anything re BW starting KIN-CUR. The latest is the pending KIN-MIA and KIN-MBJ-ORD-KIN-MBJ.

Thanks airjamaica, looking forward to seeing JM here in Curacao again 

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RE: Splash Of Red..Jamaican Thread 41..

Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:17 am

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 39):
US is not easing up on its PHL-MBJ stronghold. I still think BW should have targeted BWI or IAD over ORD though.

I have never seen such an increase in service from US to MBJ from PHL....But lets see how BW responds..

BTW..It looks like planes destined for JM is now on hold..I guess their their chairman is getting ready to throw a "new fit", lol..

http://rjrnewsonline.com/business/ca...cquire-two-aircraft-air-j-put-hold

Quoting A388 (Reply 40):
Interesting development. Let's see which one will eventually happen. I personally see Russia definately happening.

I was expecting to hear of a service from Russia for the winter that was previously mentioned by the JTB..I was told they were pursuing talks with Transaero Airlines...


BTW..I saw on the new that NK plans to hire over 1000 staff in the FLL area....I guess, we will see increase in services to both KIN and MBJ..
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Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:24 pm

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 41):
I have never seen such an increase in service from US to MBJ from PHL.

Usually one would have expected to see such increases on their CLT-MBJ rotations. But they are becoming more and more aggressive on the PHL-MBJ route as well.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 41):
BTW..I saw on the new that NK plans to hire over 1000 staff in the FLL area....I guess, we will see increase in services to both KIN and MBJ..

Currently B6's primary focus is on both BOS and SJU, but I am certain they too have plans to beef up FLL in the near future where Caribbean/Latin American markets are concerned from there.


HBO in collaboration with the Jamaica Tourist Board ( JTB ) and Flow have prepared a special feature on the annual Jamaica Jazz & Blues festival that was staged in January at the Trelawny Multi-Purpose Stadium, featuring artistes such as Maroon 5, Natalie Cole, Regina Bell, SWV etc. This feature will not only focus on the show itself, but will prominently highlight some of the island's most notable attractions, and will be viewed by over 300 million people in 23 countries across the Caribbean and Latin America.


'' The premiere of this programme is a groundbreaking initiative which will give Jamaica tremendous exposure. It will not only capture the attention of some 300 million viewers in 23 countries across Latin America and the Caribbean, but it will also fuel curiosity about destination Jamaica, after which I am confident many of them will want to visit our beautiful country. I laud this joint effort between HBO and Flow, which will certainly enhance our marketing efforts in the region and significantly boost brand Jamaica. ''


http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110924/ent/ent1.html


The timing of this production is great I think and will surely benefit our tourism industry. It is being aired just in time for the upcoming busy winter season. Interestingly as well is the fact that it will also be aired in countries throughout Latin America, an area where our local tourism officials are busy securing new airlift to MBJ. This initiative is much welcome. Hopefully they will do it again next year as the Jazz & Blues Festival is an annual event.
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Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:51 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 42):
Usually one would have expected to see such increases on their CLT-MBJ rotations. But they are becoming more and more aggressive on the PHL-MBJ route as well.

This is their Dec schedule from CLT, that will include a RON..
1227 7:55 AM CLT -10:54 AM MBJ 2h 59m 319
1229 9:40 AM CLT- 12:44 PM MBJ 3h 4m 321
1231 11:30 AM CLT- 2:30 PM MBJ 3h 0m 321

859 9:55 AM PHL- 1:50 PM MBJ 3h 55m 320

This is their Mar and Apr schedule..The 3rd daily from PHL will only operate on weekends..Two aircraft will RON in MBJ on weekends..

857 7:55 AM PHL-10:42 AM MBJ 3h 47m 321
859 9:55 AM PHL-12:50 PM MBJ 3h 55m 321
865 6:15 PM PHL- 9:05 PM MBJ 3h 50m 319

1227 7:55 AM CLT- 9:50 AM MBJ 2h 55m 319
1229 9:45 AM CLT- 11:40 AM MBJ 2h 55m 321
1231 11:30 AM CLT- 1:29 PM MBJ 2h 59m 321
1260 6:00 PM CLT- 7:55 PM MBJ 2h 55m 319

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 42):
Currently B6's primary focus is on both BOS and SJU, but I am certain they too have plans to beef up FLL in the near future where Caribbean/Latin American markets are concerned from there.

They are now submitting final documents to start FLL-BOG in Jan 2012...Lets see if KIN and MBJ will start by next summer...


Another boost to Portland's tourism..The Sandals Group has acquired The Dragon Bay Resort and will be an exclusive Spa property..

http://rjrnewsonline.com/business/dragon-bay-be-transformed-sandals
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Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:41 am

Its seems RD have very HUGE plans for Jamaica. According to Mr. Burns, already ticket sales have exceeded expectations on its pending flights to BGI and POS........................


'' REDJET, the Caribbean's low fares airline, is planning to create a separate Jamaican airline which will provide hundreds of jobs, less than two weeks after tickets went on sale locally for flights between the island and two other regional destinations.

Speaking with the Business Observer yesterday, REDjet chairman and chief executive officer Ian Burns said that the company has been attempting to fly to the island for the past four years and that the Jamaican government is aware of its aspirations. ''


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...aunch-new-Jamaican-airline_9803417


They plan to establish more than just a '' hub '' here it would seem.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 43):
They are now submitting final documents to start FLL-BOG in Jan 2012...Lets see if KIN and MBJ will start by next summer...

They have been approved for FLL-BOG flights. But yes.....FLL to KIN and MBJ will happen sooner or later.
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Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:02 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 44):
Speaking with the Business Observer yesterday, REDjet chairman and chief executive officer Ian Burns said that the company has been attempting to fly to the island for the past four years and that the Jamaican government is aware of its aspirations. ''

Talk about perfect timing..It now seems, the source of the problem is gone, they now have a greater chance of getting this approval..

Am also thrilled to see Jamaican investors will be apart of this new venture..Will we see a Redjet Jamaica, a carrier, the Jamaican public will see as the JM replacement..Welcome back to the 6Y regs on international service..

As a new carrier, there will definitely be a reduction in fares, which will further stimulate growth..I for see them using KIN as a hub for Caribbean services and MBJ as a focus for leisure routes...
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Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:20 pm

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'' REDJET, the Caribbean's low fares airline, is planning to create a separate Jamaican airline which will provide hundreds of jobs, less than two weeks after tickets went on sale locally for flights between the island and two other regional destinations.

Lets hope this plan will be carried out urgently using Airbus equipment.
 
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Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:31 am

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 45):
As a new carrier, there will definitely be a reduction in fares, which will further stimulate growth..I for see them using KIN as a hub for Caribbean services and MBJ as a focus for leisure routes...

If all go according to plan, it will be quite an interesting scene where Jamaica's aviation is concerned.

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 46):
Lets hope this plan will be carried out urgently using Airbus equipment.

Depending on what routes they intend to serve with this proposed new arm of their operations, it would be great to see some Airbus in their fleet if suitable.
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Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:59 pm

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 47):
If all go according to plan, it will be quite an interesting scene where Jamaica's aviation is concerned.
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 47):
Depending on what routes they intend to serve with this proposed new arm of their operations, it would be great to see some Airbus in their fleet if suitable.

It would be good for the country as this investment will create new jobs and expand the industry..The operations should follow a JM model where MBJ would be leisure and KIN will be VFR..With the ongoing expansion of the hotel sector, a LCC model as Redjet would ensure there is a constant flow of visitors to the island..VFR traffic to KIN will increase with cheap fares, while opening new routes...Alas, there will be a carrier promoting "Brand Jamaica"...

Mr Burns is clearly a strategist in seeking local investors..By going this route, there is nothing BW can do to stop this venture...
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Sunwing Airlines from Canada will operate flights from Thunder Bay and St Johns, New Foundland for the winter season..

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/latest/article.php?id=32266


As mentioned before.

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“Unlike its competitors in the region, including Miami, Jamaica can provide the most cost effective and timely movement of cargo utilising a sea/air movement,” Mr. Henry said.

He was addressing the World Maritime Day media luncheon on Thursday (September 30), at the Terra Nova Hotel in Kingston.

Mr. Henry noted that Jamaica has only three more years to be ready to capitalise on the reopening of the Panama Canal, but that efforts are being made to take advantage of transhipment opportunities which should become available then.

He said that the Kingston Container Terminal is being expanded to accommodate larger vessels, moving from 1.3 million TEUs (twenty-foot equivalent-a measure used for capacity in shipping containers) to some 5 million TEUs, and a projection for 1,500 new, permanent jobs.
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Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:10 pm

Plans are ahead to have AA/Eagle service the newly refurbished Ian Flemming Airport from MIA..More details to follow..

http://rjrnewsonline.com/business/ch...-coming-ian-flemming-international
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