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United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:24 am

Where was UA operating their 722s in the late 90s/early 2000s?

Did anyone fly on them at this time - what condition were the cabins in?
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:46 am

I flew on a UA 727 in the late 90's, I think 1998 or so IAH-ORD. I always loved the 727. It's so hard to believe they are almost all gone. They were very ubiquitous at one time. The cabin was in fine shape, didn't look worn at all.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:47 am

I believe I flew one DEN-MCI in 2001 and it was in good condition.
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:49 am

I seem to recall the 727-222s operating from DEN to OAK in 2001.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:10 am

Quoting 28L28L (Reply 3):
I seem to recall the 727-222s operating from DEN to OAK in 2001.
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Indeed, United grounded its fleet of 727's and 737-200 aircraft immediately after the attacks on 9/11. They left the fleet in October and November of 2001, if memory serves me correctly. Although the interiors were in adequate condition, the galleys were very old. Shortly before 9/11, there was talk about refurbishing the galleys, but the project never came to fruition as the company decided to ground the fleet entirely.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:21 am

Hopefully this link works: (My Trip Report)

United Airlines 727-200 / 737-300 (by B737-112 Oct 30 2001 in Trip Reports)?threadid=14142&searchid=14142&s=b737-112#ID14142

I last flew on these classics October 28th and 29th, 2001, they were retired on the 30th! As far as I recall, the interiors still looked pretty good. Such great memories!
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:22 am

I flew one from MSY-DEN and then back 2 weeks later in the summer of 1999. I remember them being in very good shape. We also were served a full breakfast on the outbound, and a hot chicken dinner on the return and I think they hand-delivered everything, I just remember the FA's being very busy.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:47 am

I did an LAX-DEN in spring of 2001. I can't say there was anything wrong with the plane, but it certainly was in a well-used state.

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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:07 am

I flew B727-200 N7249U in August 2001 ORD-LGA. The cabin was in pretty good condition although you could still see the age. It was my first B727 flight so was quite special.

I specifically remember a UA B737-200 at the adjacent gate in ORD. It was operating to IND but but was delayed due to a crew seat which needed replacing.

Did the original B737-222s (Non-Advanced) last until the end with UA?
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:13 am

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 6):
I think they hand-delivered everything

Really? I knew airlines were regularly hand delivering meals on many aircraft right through the 1980s, but I didn't know it was until that late in service.

What configuration were they in?

I bet the Flight Attendants hated the 727s

Edit: above statement confirmed by that trip report!

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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:19 am

Quoting Jackbr (Thread starter):

Where was SA)">UA operating their 722s in the late 90s/early 2000s?

I am looking at one of United's last printed timetables, June 7 thru July 8, 2001.

The 727-200 series aircraft were operated on the following routes:

DEN-ABQ
DEN-ATL
DEN-AUS
DEN-BIL
DEN-BUR
DEN-YYC
DEN-ORD
DEN-CLE
DEN-DFW
DEN-DTW
DEN-EUG
DEN-IAH
DEN-IND
DEN-MCI
DEN-MSP
DEN-EWR (SA ONLY)
DEN-OAK
DEN-OKC
DEN-OMA
DEN-MCO
DEN-PDX
DEN-SMF
DEN-SFO
DEN-SJC
DEN-SEA
DEN-TUL
DEN-YVR

ORD-BWI
ORD-BOS
ORD-BTV
ORD-CLT
ORD-CVG
ORD-CLE
ORD-COS
ORD-CMH
ORD-DFW
ORD-DAY
ORD-DEN
ORD-DTW
ORD-GRR
ORD-BDL
ORD-IND
ORD-MCI
ORD-LAS
ORD-MHT
ORD-MIA
ORD-MSP
ORD-MSY
ORD-LGA
ORD-EWR
ORD-ORF
ORD-OMA
ORD-MCO
ORD-PHX
ORD-PIT
ORD-PWM
ORD-PVD
ORD-RDU
ORD-SLC
ORD-STL
ORD-TPA
ORD-YYZ
ORD-IAD
ORD-DCA

SFO-DEN

IAD-ATL
IAD-BOS
IAD-DEN
IAD-BDL
IAD-LGA
IAD-MCO
IAD-TPA
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:54 am

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 9):
Really? I knew airlines were regularly hand delivering meals on many aircraft right through the 1980s, but I didn't know it was until that late in service.

Yes indeed. Meals were hand-run as the galleys had never been modified to carry tray carts. Both the First Class galley and the aft galley contained modules with slots that the meal trays were slotted into. It was a real pain because the salads were not covered and lettuce would be strewn all over the meal trays. The meal trays were long and narrow. The hot portion of the meals were boarded in long metal drawers that fit into heating units.

Flight attendants would burn themselves on the hot elements as we pulled the hot metal drawers out to place the foil covered meals on each tray to hand-deliver them row by row. Working as the Purser in First Class wasn't so bad, but Economy was a pain.

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 9):


What configuration were they in?

United had rolled out Economy Plus just prior to 9/11. The 727's were configured with 12 seats in First Class; 60 seats in Economy Plus, and 69 in regular Economy.

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 9):
I bet the Flight Attendants hated the 727s

Yes indeed. However there was something about the 727 that, upon descending the aft air stairs on a dark night and looking back to glimpse at her high T-tail and aft-mounted engines...the sound of her APU piercing at your ear drums while her stair mounted lights illuminated each step from the tarmac to her belly, one couldn't help but feel a glimpse of adoration for that sexy bird...
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:59 am

The routes listed above show a DEN, IAD, ORD focus - were they only operated by crews from these bases?
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:44 am

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 12):

The routes listed above show a DEN, IAD, ORD focus - were they only operated by crews from these bases?

The 727's were focused in DEN and ORD, but the west coast bases like SEA, SFO, and LAX had significant 727 flying up until the late 1990's. As more and more routes on the west coast were converted to Shuttle by United (later called United Shuttle), the 727's moved eastward. Shuttle routes were operated exclusively with specially converted Boeing 737-300/500 aircraft.

For example, SFO-MFR, SFO-EUG, and SFO-SLC were often flown with 727's, but as those routes were transitioned to Shuttle operated flights, they were operated exclusively by 737's. Even so, although the 727's moved eastward, it was still quite common for a west coast crew to operate a trip pairing that involved 727 aircraft.

A typical trip pairing could look like the following and be flown with a SFO-based crew:

SFO-ORD - A320
ORD-BTV - B727

Layover (BTV - Burlington, VT)

BTV-ORD B727
ORD-SAT B737

Layover (SAT - San Antonio, TX)

SAT-DEN B727
DEN-SFO A319

At United, F/A's are scheduled to fly a mix of different aircraft types within a single trip pairing. I should also mention, that a 3-day trip with 2 legs each day was considered to be a pretty sweet trip, but typically there could be 3 or 4 legs worked within a duty period.

So in answer to your question, at United, A/C are not base-specific and cabin crews are not aircraft specific.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:42 am

I remember seeing them at terminal B in DFW right up until 9/11. I had a chance to fly on one, but forsook it for a 737-291 nonstop DFW-IAD in May of 2001. That 737 was in poor shape, cabin-wise. Ceiling panels misaligned, lavatory panels in bad shape, flush lever installed upsidedown.... I did a trip report at the time, it's in that forum.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:05 am

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 9):
Really? I knew airlines were regularly hand delivering meals on many aircraft right through the 1980s, but I didn't know it was until that late in service.

I know TW and DL also hand delivered meals on the 727. I remember seeing a TW F/A that could carry six meal trays (two in each hand, one between the bicep and wrist on each arm).

DL added trash cart stowage between F/C and Y/C around 2001-3. Some of those units were only six months old at retirement.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:49 pm

I,for one loved the 727. Yes we had to hand run meals, but there was a beverage cart. Up until E plus, we held 102 meals in the aft galley and 33 economy meals in the forward galley. The interiors were updated and refreshed. If y ou didn't see the buffet modules, you would think it was a new plane. The modules were the same for the DC-8's,as well as the 727-100.

The planes I didn't like were the 727-100 series where there was one galley for both classes of service. Double stacking of trays for economy and the crew all agreed to say sorry once at the beginning of the service because you knew you were going to elbow someone at least 5 times.

The worst airplane was the 737-200. Two words............THERMAL TRAYS. They looked like a baby's food tray with compartments. Stacked in sets of 9 with a top to make it 10. Trying to find special meals or entree choices (yes there was a choice) was always a challenge. First class had these as well, untill mid 1980's, then an oven was installed upfront. The First class beverage cart was still in back and had to be brought up after take off...............so no predeparture cocktails. I was so happy when these birds were gone.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:24 pm

I flew the 727 with UA for the first time when they were running out of LHR to European Cities.

My last flight was in F from ATL to IAD. It was so quiet up front. I loved that aircraft.

I wonder how long they would have remained in the fleet without 9/11?
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:44 pm

I flew the UA 727 from DEN to PDX in June 2001. It was amazing their slow rate of climb, especially when climbing out of Denver over the Rockie Mountains that seemed just below the airplane!
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:08 pm

My employer in the mid/late 90s was loyal to UA and i flew them a number of times from ORD to SDF and back in the 98 to 99 timeframe. Though it was odd that the Y galley was on aircraft right rather than left..al la NW/DL/TW/AA. IIRC there were no seats at the 2L door, so that became a congregation area for people waiting on the lav...im sure the F/As loved that. When I became crew in Jan 2000...i can tell you that yes, it was a nightmare from a F/A standpoint. Flying Lead/Purser/A was ok...but the forward galley was almost too big in relation to the number of seats. The aft galley was a mess...with tiny ovens that were jam packed with food...you had to rotate the trays while the oven ran to make sure all the entrees were cooked. Service items like ice and cups and extra soda were conveniently located on the floor behind rather flimsy bin doors.
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:16 pm

As a 12 year FA for United, I sorta miss the 727's. They were like tanks in the sky! I remember getting struck by lightning on one.. was interesting. The galleys were super old. They were huge compartments that had to be pulled out with a special tool. The interior on most were a bit dingy and yellowing from the years of smoking when it was allowed.

As my othe colleagues have said, we were quite busy. Food service was hand run and I was cracking up at the comment about the lettuce being stewn all over! The trays were actually easier to deliver than those snack boxes. The waxy boxes would slip out of you hands if you tried to grab too many!

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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:18 pm

From 1997 to 2001 I flew on at least 10 UA 727-200's on various routes, but usually on ones such as MSY-DEN, ORD-MSY, and PVD-ORD. They were a great ride. The interiors were in good shape...just as good as their 737's and 757's. The seats were the same gray with the multi-colored stripes running down the middle of them.

One of my most memorable flights on the UA 722 was in January,2000. It was the morning flight out of MSY to ORD. Full airplane. As we were taxiing, I was listening to channel 9, and the tower informed the flight deck "UA XXX, you are cleared for departure runway 1." Not five seconds later, the Captain responds: "Tower this is UA XXX, runway 1 won't cut it for us this morning, we're going to need runway 10." 1 is only 7000ft, 10 is 10,102ft. That flight also stuck out because of just how cold it was in ORD that morning...something like 6 degrees with a negative wind chill.
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:19 pm

Quoting Jackbr (Thread starter):
Where was UA operating their 722s in the late 90s/early 2000s?

I was an NWA flyer back then, but I did fly ORD-YVR on UA 727s occasionally.

[Edited 2011-09-18 08:20:08]
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:30 pm

My last flight on United's 722 was on May 2, 2000, on the MIA-LGA route.
It was on N7291U:

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As far as I can remember the cabin was a bit worn and quite a contrast to the 763ER that I flew in on from SCL. I can't believe that only 10 years ago the 727 was still regular equipment on domestic flights. At least nowadays we still have DC9s.

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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:10 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 23):

I very much recall flying a UA 727 out of NYC (but I swear it was JFK and not LGA to MIA, but it was a loooooog time ago!) in the 1990's. I was 30 at the time and had a HIGHLY active social life, and I always flew UA (where I formed my love for the airline) my company had a Corp deal with UA and all tickets were 30 to 40% off. Plus I had a friend in Corp sales for UA in NYC and he would give me upgrades too.

So, I would probably go to South Beach 6 to 10 times a year to party and I was always on a UA 727. My first year of switching from AA to UA I was Premier Exec. But on one trip to Miami, I had 99,000 miles before I left and knew I would hit 100,000 miles on that ride. The FA took my order first (I was in first and we got an AWESOME hot meal too). Then she came back to me a few minutes later, almost hysterical with fear as she had made a mistake "Mr B, I am so sorry, I am so embarrassed! I made a big mistake, I should have asked the 1K's first what they wanted and now I've run out of the beef Wellington and a 1K ordered that and I was out..I need to kindly ask if you would give up your beef Wellington for him since you're just Premiere Exec 'which is very important to United too' but 1k's are supposed to come first and I could get in trouble!" I told her (joking but acting serious) "where are we right now? Near Atlanta? "she said "I'm not sure but I think we are close to Atlanta by now" and I said, well by now I should br 1k then! I left NY with 99,000 miles! She was seechless. Poor thing. I said "naturally you can give him my beef Weliington"- I'll take whatever is left! BUT...the reason I tell this (funny to me) story is I SO vividly recall riding those 727's in F was how wonderful the seat and cabin was. The food and service was better than an AA MD-80 was. Also, there was something about how a 727 banked into MIA from flying over the ocean- she glided soundlessly into a slide onto the runway. I miss her so much as I do my nights in South Beach.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:21 pm

In 1997 I interned at United and got to fly them every week. My observations were the same as others above. However some interesting info I can pass is that at the time the economy was booming and UA was making record profits. The 727s were all paid for and the airline had every intention of flying them all the way up to present day (2011) and maybe beyond. United had plans to redo the interiors starting in 03/04 with new seats that would have digital IFE (for audio only) displayed on the top of the arm rest (like the 757s of today) rather than on the side. As we all know 9/11 hit, the economy turned, United hit labor issues and it just seemed like no brainer if they had to eliminate something it would be the 727s so as we know none of this came to fruition. But alas if 9/11 never happened and the economy stayed strong and oil stayed less than 50 or 40 a barrel we'd been guaranteed to probably see a solid fleet of at least 50 to 75 in 2011.
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:24 pm

Quoting B737-112 (Reply 5):
I last flew on these classics October 28th and 29th, 2001, they were retired on the 30th!

I last flew one around Sept. 30th 2001 from MIA to DCA (I believe). I had no idea at the time that its days were number.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:38 pm

My last UA 727 was from ORD to RIC on 4/11/99. It was aircraft N7272U, and its interior was in excellent condition.

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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:59 pm

My only UA 727 ride was on N7295U 23Apr95 DEN-LAX. It was a very slow take off since it was from DEN. Felt like we were nerver going to get off the ground! Almost like taking off in a A340-300 but much noisier!

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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:08 pm

My last UA 727 trip was also my last US DC-10. I was flying PWM-ORD-LAX in June of 2000. Both flights were due to a reschedule, as I was supposed to fly PWM-IAD-LAX on run-of-the-mill aircraft. I wasn't excited at the time, but I have lots of nostalgia in hindsight.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:14 pm

UA took delivery of 104 727-200s, including 28 early models between May 1968 and June 1969, and 76 Advanced models between October 1977 and July 1980.

You could easily identify the early models as they originally had an extra emergency exit just ahead of the wing on both sides. I think those 28 UA aircraft were the only 722s built with those extra exits. They were later determined not to be required and were sealed up. I remember sitting in the seats next to those exits on several flights. First photo below is of UA's last original non-advanced 722 with those exists still in use. Second photo is the same aircraft with the exits sealed (note the larger gap around the 5th window behind the "U" in United).


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And UA's last 722ADV, delivered July 1980. After UA retired it in late 2001, it spent a few years with Pan Am 2 (or was it 3?) until they shut down around 2007. One source says the aircraft is still stored in JAX.


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Strangely, UA's later 722ADVs had lower registration number series than the early models. The early 722s were registered N7620U through N7647U. The 722ADVs were N7251U through N7299U and N7441U through N7467U.

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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:35 pm

I remember seeing them quite often in DTW as they approached the end of their service life with UA. I also remember seeing the DC-10 at DTW in the weeks leading up to its retirement from UA but I am not sure what route it was flying. Based on the regularity of its visits, it appeared to be a part of a regular schedule and not just a sub.

It was odd seeing a DC-10 parked at the UA gates in Detroit......it just looked strange.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:40 pm

I went to college in Texas from 1997-2001 and flew numerous airlines' 727s in/out of DFW, including SA)">AA, SA)">DL, and, of course SA)">UA. Despite it being quite noisy, I always loved that plane.

Before the explosion of UAX and the introduction of the regional jet, with most Texan and midwest cities, SA)">UA only served 2 destinations--727s to DEN and 737s to ORD.

In fact, it was a 727 that was the only plane I have ever gotten pulled off of as a stand-by. In July of 2001, a buddy and I were heading to Europe as a college graduation present. We made it DFW-ORD but then got stuck trying to get to DC. We finally made it on a 727 to DCA, with the agent closing the door behind us as he gave us the last two seats. My buddy was up toward the front of economy and I was in the back across from the rear galley. I breathlessly collapsed in the middle seat as the flight attendant joked "you made it!" No sooner had I sat down, than the agent came walking down the aisle with a woman who I knew was the pax he had been repeatedly paging during the boarding processs. I must have said "oh shoot" or something cause the f/a said "you're an SA who's about to get pulled off this flight, aren't you?" I said, "yes ma'am." Sure enough, the gate agent pointed at me from halfway down the aisle and crooked his finger in the "come here" motion.

We finally got the last flight into IAD and then got 2 business class seats together to CDG the following day, so I suppose all's well that ended well. Little did I know that would probably be my last chance at one of those birds or that everything was about to change when we flew back in late August 2001 (with probably a dozen Swiss Army Knives between us in our carry-on luggage to give as souveniers).
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:28 pm

I lived in ABQ for almost 13 years, and UA operated the 722 on the DEN-ABQ-DEN run quite often. A few times I was on a 733, and even twice on a 752, but mostly it was 722's. In fact until about 1993, it was sometimes on a 727-100. My last ride on a UA 722 was ABQ-DEN in Dec 1999. Although in my opinion the 722's looked downright sexy in the battleship gray scheme, a 727-100 in the 1980's orange/red/blue cheat-line livery offered a sense of nostalgia like no other.

I loved flying on 727's...lots of great memories.

A UA 727 was actually the first commercial aircraft I have memory of flying on, when I was around 5 years old (circa 1978), on a family trip to Disneyland from BOI-SFO-LAX and return, all on 727's. I distinctly remember being served a hot breakfast of pancakes and sausage links on the morning flight out of BOI to SFO; in fact, as I was eating, the plane went into a relatively steep banked turn, and I remember a wayward sausage link rolling off my tray and onto the floor, never to be seen again (I don't think my mother witnessed this, or I'm sure she would have had me crawling under the seat looking for it!). The landing in SFO was quite spectacular for a five year old...it was quite foggy in SFO, and we broke out of the clouds and all I could see was dark gray water rushing underneath us, getting closer and closer. Just about the time it seemed we were going to splash down, a runway appeared (I'm guessing we were landing to the west on the 28's) and we roared to a stop (we were sitting toward the back).

One of my most fond memories (I'm sure the statute of limitations has expired on this...otherwise the names will be changed to protect the guilty!) was several times taking the red-eye flight from DEN-BOI in the early 80's. Remember when passengers were served more than just peanuts? That's right, I'm talking about the packs of Blue Diamond smoked almonds...oh yeah! Well, the drink/snack service was underway, and one of the female FA's parked the cart right next to the row where my brother and I were sitting while she was serving other passengers. Mom and Dad were asleep, so when she wasn't looking, we stuffed as many packs of smoked almonds into our jacket pockets as we could reach..I think we were still snacking on smoked almonds about two weeks after the flight!

Like many have said, the one thing that stood out most to me about the 727's was how quiet they were (especially up front), and how rock solid and smooth they were to ride on. I know airplanes today are built to very high standards of safety of course, but to borrow a cliche', "...they just don't build them like they used to." What a machine!

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Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:44 pm

Quoting jamake1 (Reply 10):
ORD-BTV

I'm not sure how late this went on, but I recall that at one time the 727 went on from BTV to BGR and returned in the morning on the way back to ORD.
 
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Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:02 pm

Quoting Nutsaboutplanes (Reply 31):
It was odd seeing a DC-10 parked at the UA gates in Detroit......it just looked strange.

United regularly flew the DC-10 into DTW, CLE, BWI, and MCO/TPA. Sad that now the A320 is about the biggest thing into those markets!
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Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:25 pm

I flew a UA 727 in June of 2001 DEN-SEA. I was in first class non-revving as an unaccompanied minor. I remember the service was amazing and the stewardesses were so kind. I also remember that my dad had told me how loud the 727 was, but up in the very front it was pretty quiet. I was in seat 1B.
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:53 pm

Quoting jamake1 (Reply 10):
I am looking at one of United's last printed timetables, June 7 thru July 8, 2001.

The 727-200 series aircraft were operated on the following routes:

...
ORD-PIT

Thanks for that info. I was pretty sure I remembered being on a 727 ORD-PIT sometime in 2001, but I don't keep a log and was unsure of my memory as to the date. I do remember thinking that it was an old trooper, tired and worn looking but still willing and able to fly. An interesting ride, and as best as I can recall, the only time I was on a 727.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:00 am

Quoting PITingres (Reply 37):
I do remember thinking that it was an old trooper, tired and worn looking but still willing and able to fly


The last UA 727 I flew was a SEA-DEN leg around the spring of 98 I believe. While not worn out, it was quite evident that at least that particular aircraft was getting long in the tooth. There was common knowledge of UA financial woes at that point and there were not many shiny new jets in UA's system at that time at least domestically.

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Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:01 am

My last flight on a UA 727 was December 1996 - ORD - SEA, on my way home for Christmas from college in DC (the originating flight was an A320 / 319 from DCA). The one strange thing I remember about that flight is that we had to stop at one of the airports in Montana (I think it was either BIL or HLN) to refuel on the way to SEA. I thought it was strange at the time, as a 727 would easily have the legs to do ORD - SEA. Perhaps it was a 727-100?

At any rate, I remember the interior being in quite good shape - quite comfortable actually.
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:58 am

I flew one ORD-BOI in 1999. Cabin was pretty standard. Seemed in pretty good shape.
 
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:10 am

The last United 727 flight I took was from ORD-SEA in 1996. Great, old jet with a huge galley in back which we sat next to. We had a DC-10 out to ORD a week earlier. Miss those tri-jets!
 
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:23 am

I flew AUS-DEN back in 99 00 & 01. Service was great, but the cabins were old. I hated jump seating on the 72 w/ FX past 01.   
 
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:12 pm

Quoting 777law (Reply 39):
I thought it was strange at the time, as a 727 would easily have the legs to do ORD - SEA. Perhaps it was a 727-100?

From what I recall, the 727-100 had longer range than the -200. AA kept the -100s well into the early 90s - everyone asked them why - and it was range.

Speaking of the -100, when did UA retire them? I certainly don't recall any in battleship colors (introduced in early '93).
 
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:30 pm

Did any fly again after UA?.
 
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:52 pm

Quoting Gman3 (Reply 20):
As a 12 year FA for United, I sorta miss the 727's. They were like tanks in the sky! I remember getting struck by lightning on one.. was interesting. The galleys were super old. They were huge compartments that had to be pulled out with a special tool. The interior on most were a bit dingy and yellowing from the years of smoking when it was allowed.

My dad flew the UA 727 from 1967 to 1978 ... The last one I flew in in 2001 was actually struck by lightening on our climb out of DEN on our way to OAK ... It was just prior to 9/11 so I had no idea it would be my final UA 727 (and probably final 727) flight ...
 
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:06 pm

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 44):
Did any fly again after UA?.

Yes, subsequent operators of some of the UA 727s included Aerosur and Pan Am (one of the later variants)
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Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:22 pm

Last UA 727 flight for me was DCA-MIA in February 2000 after having our original trip cancelled from EWR-ORD-MIA because of ice and snow. We happened to rent a car and drive down to DCA from NJ and the flight was scheduled at like 7:30pm so we no problem making the 4+ hour drive.

The service was excellent. They served some sort of dinner in coach that was like barbaque chicken with rice and hot sauce or something like that. For a meal even at that time, it was impressive. I recall the audio controls in the arm rest as well. I don't believe any other carrier had audio on the 722 except for UA.

Despite all this, I was never a big 727 fan. I never liked the noise factor and thought they were old and not well cared for after a while. We flew MIA-ORD on a 777 on the way back and that was a much more exciting experience.
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:26 pm

I flew UA 727 back in 1994 GVA-CDG and CDG-GVA back in the time when they had the CDG hub!
Btw the last time I ever flew a 727.
Anyone have the regs of the CDG based 727's ?
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RE: United 727 Last Years Of Service?

Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:04 pm

I think my last B727 trip was on UA between ORD-FLL-ORD in mid to late 2000. Was a good flight, enjoyed it a lot. I sat in one of the emergency exit rows, and I seem to remember having a lot of leg room.
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