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BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:29 pm

BA have exercised two 77W options for delivery in 2013. That will bring the fleet to eight frames. Haven't seen this reported on here.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:37 pm

They must be thrilled with the 77W, like practically every other operator. I'm sure it's a great 747 replacement for them--I bet we will see them order more in the coming years.

Btw, what was the original order, was it for 6?
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:19 pm

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 1):
They must be thrilled with the 77W, like practically every other operator. I'm sure it's a great 747 replacement for them--I bet we will see them order more in the coming years.

SO where is the 30 plane order or 50 plane order ? IF Cathay can operate 60 77W's BA certainly can and more.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:24 pm

Why commit to the big order, when the drip feed is just as effective...BA are likely getting good prices, and can gradually build up without compromising the coming 787-10 / A350-1000 / 777X decision...the 747 fleet is still young enough that no urgent decision needs to be taken to replace them.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:32 pm

Quoting FlyingCello (Reply 3):
Why commit to the big order, when the drip feed is just as effective...BA are likely getting good prices, and can gradually build up without compromising the coming 787-10 / A350-1000 / 777X decision...the 747 fleet is still young enough that no urgent decision needs to be taken to replace them.

I think this is right. Besides which, the 777-200 is still capable of flying virtually all routes on the BA system (it already flies the longest, EZE-LHR). Now, the question is this, I think: is the extra capacity of the 77W over the 772 going to generate significantly better yield/revenue? Bear in mind the wider macroeconomic scene; it's not that positive at the moment, from the UK's perspective (it is better from HK's perspective, which benefits CX), so the last thing BA needs to be doing is splashing out £x bn on a large fleet of 77Ws - particularly when the type is probably a "gap filler" in the long term picture (see the thread currently running on BA's long term fleet). Right now, the sensible thing is to take it step by step, in increments rather than a massive order.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:38 pm

Quoting FlyingCello (Reply 3):
the 747 fleet is still young enough that no urgent decision needs to be taken to replace them.

Well I don't know how many miles / cycles they have flown, but young enough is not a term I would apply to many, e.g.

Delivery Registration
15/11/1989 G-BNLE
28/02/1990 G-BNLF
21/04/1990 G-BNLI
23/05/1990 G-BNLJ
25/05/1990 G-BNLK
14/06/1990 G-BNLL
28/06/1990 G-BNLM
27/07/1990 G-BNLN
25/10/1990 G-BNLO
17/12/1990 G-BNLP

Which may have something to do with the A380 order and the current widebody replacement discussion  
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:06 pm

Slinky,

Of course the existing A380 orders partially replace the early 744s...there was never any doubt about that. The current debate (see the other thread running) is about what replaces the rest...

If you look at the Boeing website, you'll find deliveries as follows:-

1989 - 5
1990 - 11
1991 - 3
1992 - 4
1993 - 3
1994 - 4
1995 - 2
1996 - 2
1997 - 6
1998 - 11
1999 - 6

So about half the current 747 fleet is from 1995 or later...those are the ones that are still 'reasonably' young...they can soldier on for a while yet, and BA are known for keeping older birds going well...

[Edited 2011-09-21 11:07:47]
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:21 pm

Quoting FlyingCello (Reply 6):
So about half the current 747 fleet is from 1995 or later...those are the ones that are still 'reasonably' young...they can soldier on for a while yet, and BA are known for keeping older birds going well...

I remember flying on one of BA's first 2 or 3 747-100s on a LHR-YMX (Mirabel airport then handling international flights at Montreal) in July 1996 (in J class). The aircraft appeared to be in very good condition although it was then 26 years old and had been delivered when BA was still BOAC. Some of those BA 741s were 28 years old when finally retired around 1998.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:26 pm

Interesting. I wonder whether these options are for growth or to replace 747s?

[Edited 2011-09-21 13:26:50]
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:35 pm

This seems just a top up, I don't see it as part or a large 77W order, BA will be looking at the A35J or 777X, that said, depending upon choice, more 77W's could enter the fold as an interim measure against 744 retirements.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:42 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 2):
SO where is the 30 plane order or 50 plane order ? IF Cathay can operate 60 77W's BA certainly can and more.

Between the 787, A380 and 77Ws on order and options outstanding, they will cover the oldest aircraft needing replacement. 777s and newer 747s need replacing in another 5-15 years, so expect another order for aircraft based on their new bid request.


That means that there will be no large 77W order, A380 order, or 789 order going forward. Just a few here and there.

This is why you purchase options. So you have the option to take aircraft when you need them, in the quantity you need them, at a good price. Something the ME carriers don't seem to understand, with their massive orders with no options.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:22 pm

Quoting speedmarque (Thread starter):


BA have exercised two 77W options for delivery in 2013. That will bring the fleet to eight frames. Haven't seen this reported on here

Will these two be owned or leased frames?

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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:47 pm

Good news, I can see them operating a fairly decent 15-20 of this type not before too long. I think they'll get a sweet price and order a few more.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:26 pm

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 5):
Which may have something to do with the A380 order and the current widebody replacement discussion

In recent article I read that BA is planning to use the A380 on BA and Iberia trunk routes and very limited long-haul. They also had a renewed interest in the B748i, but given their love affair with the 777W, I think they will keep exercising options and we will not see any large order from BA.

Perhaps I should also post the link to the article, lol: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

[Edited 2011-09-22 06:28:39]
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:52 pm

Quoting speedmarque (Thread starter):
BA have exercised two 77W options for delivery in 2013. That will bring the fleet to eight frames. Haven't seen this reported on here.

Any official from BA or Boeing on this?
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:28 pm

Re: fleet replacement, BA has so many choices. They're going to effectively have to replace 45 747s (the others being replaced by A-380s and these 77Ws) and 45 777s. They're going to already have the A-380, 77W, and 787 (-8s and -9s) in the fleet. So I'd eventually expect a combination of more orders for these aircraft, and a larger order for one of the aircraft that they are mentioned to be in talks for (777-9X, 787-10, A350-1000). That lineup will provide BA with one heck of an intercontinental fleet, and the ability to serve a wide variety of markets with the proper aircraft.

Quoting FlyingCello (Reply 6):
1989 - 5
1990 - 11
1991 - 3
1992 - 4
1993 - 3
1994 - 4
1995 - 2
1996 - 2
1997 - 6
1998 - 11
1999 - 6

Very interesting....Why so many in 1990? Were most of these growth aircraft or 1:1 replacements for earlier 747 models?
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:51 pm

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 15):
Very interesting....Why so many in 1990? Were most of these growth aircraft or 1:1 replacements for earlier 747 models?

The early 747-436s were all growth aircraft. At the same time BA was also introducing the 767-336ER as a L1011 replacement (long and shorthaul), although some North American routes gained 767 service as an addition to a once daily 747 service.

If the First Gulf War hadn't killed demand in the aviation world, BA would have had a much bigger 747-436 fleet by the mid-1990s. 'British Airways', by Leo Marriott (First Edition, 1993), shows that BA had planned deliveries: -

* 1994 - 4 aircraft
* 1995 - 7 aircraft
* 1996 - 5 aircraft
* 1997 - 5 aircraft
* 1998 - 3 aircraft

This would have taken the BA fleet to 50, and all those orders were placed by 1991. With options at that time BA could have had a potential fleet of 88 747-436s!
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:18 pm

With the lack of slots at LHR, where they have flown them from? BA had fewer slots back in those days.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:29 pm

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 17):
With the lack of slots at LHR, where they have flown them from? BA had fewer slots back in those days.

More tag-ons though, which still used a lot of aircraft. A lot did replace the 747-136s, and BA then cut back on the firm orders in the late 1990s (I think it was up to 67?) in favour of 777s. It's one of the reasons they got RR Trent powered 777s, because they cancelled orders for RR powered 747-436s.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:46 pm

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 17):
With the lack of slots at LHR, where they have flown them from? BA had fewer slots back in those days.

BA used to have 747s based at LGW.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:04 pm

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 13):
hey also had a renewed interest in the B748i, but given their love affair with the 777W, I think they will keep exercising options and we will not see any large order from BA.

I've not seen a single word posted about their "love affair" with the 77W.

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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:52 pm

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 17):
With the lack of slots at LHR, where they have flown them from? BA had fewer slots back in those days.

The old routes to New Zealand and Australia used a lot of aircraft for litttle reward. Virtually three aircraft required to provide one flight per day.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:20 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 20):
I've not seen a single word posted about their "love affair" with the 77W.

It's not in the article, it is in what they are saying everywhere and the ongoing additions to more and more 77W's.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:36 pm

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 22):


It's not in the article, it is in what they are saying everywhere and the ongoing additions to more and more 77W's.

I haven't read that anywhere at all. I'm sure the plane is performing well for them, but 8 planes does not a affair make.

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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:00 am

Quoting gigneil (Reply 20):
I've not seen a single word posted about their "love affair" with the 77W.

You don't have to. It is very well known within BA that the aircraft's performance has been more than satisfactory (read love affair).

Quoting gigneil (Reply 23):
8 planes does not a affair make.

Tell that to Aeroflot and their former two 777s.

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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:00 am

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 13):
their love affair with the 777W

 
Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 22):
the ongoing additions to more and more 77W's

"...more and more..." = they ordered two over three years ago and now (apparently) they have ordered two more. (The other four were leased from GECAS at the same time as the first order. Thus, this is the first follow-on order.)
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:01 pm

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 5):
Well I don't know how many miles / cycles they have flown, but young enough is not a term I would apply to many, e.g.

Delivery Registration
15/11/1989 G-BNLE
28/02/1990 G-BNLF
21/04/1990 G-BNLI
23/05/1990 G-BNLJ
25/05/1990 G-BNLK
14/06/1990 G-BNLL
28/06/1990 G-BNLM
27/07/1990 G-BNLN
25/10/1990 G-BNLO
17/12/1990 G-BNLP

Total Time data is posted on the CAA 'G-INFO' web site. The latest data published for the above frames is:

G-BNLE. 84,762 hrs as at 31 Dec 09
G-BNLF. 93,244 hrs as at 31 Dec 10
G-BNLI. 96,417 hrs as at 31 Dec 10
G-BNLJ. 94,865 hrs as at 31 Dec 10
G-BNLK. 90.384 hrs as at 31 Dec 10
G-BNLL. 97,070 hrs as at 31 Dec 10
G-BNLM. 95,746 hrs as at 31 Dec 10
G-BNLN. 88,356 hrs as at 31 Dec 10
G-BNLO. 85,468 hrs as at 31 Dec 09
G-BNLP. 89,145 hrs as at 31 Dec 10

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
I remember flying on one of BA's first 2 or 3 747-100s on a LHR-YMX (Mirabel airport then handling international flights at Montreal) in July 1996 (in J class). The aircraft appeared to be in very good condition although it was then 26 years old and had been delivered when BA was still BOAC. Some of those BA 741s were 28 years old when finally retired around 1998.

To put the BA 744 figures above in context here is the data for the original first three BA 741s when they were retired:

G-AWNA. WFU 1 Nov 98. 102,150 hrs. 20,917 cycles
G-AWNB. WFU 31 Aug 98. 102,569 hrs. 22,161 cycles
G-AWNC. WFU 31 Oct 98. 105,198 hrs. 21,776 cycles

Then there was G-AWNE that was WFU on 31 Oct 99. It was then ferried LHR-CWL and, a month later, CWL-ROW. When parked at ROW it had accumulated 107,267 hrs having completed 22,492 rotations.

By today at least one of BA's 744s will have completed over 100,000 hrs flying time. It looks to be almost certain that more than one will comfortably exceed 110,000 hrs before being retired.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:07 am

Quoting PM (Reply 25):
"...more and more..." = they ordered two over three years ago and now (apparently) they have ordered two more. (The other four were leased from GECAS at the same time as the first order. Thus, this is the first follow-on order.)

OK, how many A330's or any longhauls they ordered from Airbus in the same time? Except for the A380 which they delayed and they are in a whole new class all together?
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:55 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 26):
By today at least one of BA's 744s will have completed over 100,000 hrs flying time. It looks to be almost certain that more than one will comfortably exceed 110,000 hrs before being retired.

LH passed the 100,000 hr mark on a couple of their earliest 744s almost 3 years ago. An earlier thread said the first one reached that mark in December 2008 and another a month later. They must be close to 115,000 hrs now. They were delivered in the last half of 1989, the same period as BA's first few 744s.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:15 am

Quoting PM (Reply 25):
"...more and more..." = they ordered two over three years ago and now (apparently) they have ordered two more. (The other four were leased from GECAS at the same time as the first order. Thus, this is the first follow-on order.)
Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 27):
OK, how many A330's or any longhauls they ordered from Airbus in the same time? Except for the A380 which they delayed and they are in a whole new class all together?

Do you know what a non sequitur is?

You say that BA are ordering "more and more" 777s. I point out that this order for two is the first follow-on order and therefore the implication of a series of orders is incorrect. Your response is to point out that BA haven't ordered any A330s.

I see.

Perhaps we'd better just drop it. As the man said, "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person."  
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:58 pm

I have just read a internal operations communication that does confirm speedmarque's original post.

I have copied the wording to post here

"By February 2012 we will introduce a further three B777-300s in four class configuration, all with Overhead Flight Crew Rest installed by Boeing. A further two options on this type have been exercised for delivery in 2013."

Unclear why it hasn't been announced publically yet. Also have heard from a always reliable sourse that BA is expected to announce in November or Decmber at the latest, that they have excercised options held on other aicraft types for delivery from mid 2013.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:20 pm

That must be close to the fastest love affair and near divorce around. I suppose buying two at once was the problem - caused an
exoectation of them breeding??????
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:40 pm

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 30):
Also have heard from a always reliable sourse that BA is expected to announce in November or Decmber at the latest, that they have excercised options held on other aicraft types for delivery from mid 2013.

Does that mean:

B77W options taken?
A380 options taken?
A320 option taken?
B787 options right taken?
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:25 pm

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 32):
B77W options taken?
A380 options taken?
A320 option taken?
B787 options right taken?

LGW fleet replacement is meant be announced by end of year. The order will see the 19 737's replaced by up to 30 A320 Family aircraft. The order is expected to be made up of A318, A319 and A320 aircraft. The additional aircraft will be used to expand the LGW shorthaul network
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:29 pm

Now you've said "A318" we'll have a tangent about the new LCY megahub  
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:57 pm

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 33):
LGW fleet replacement is meant be announced by end of year. The order will see the 19 737's replaced by up to 30 A320 Family aircraft. The order is expected to be made up of A318, A319 and A320 aircraft. The additional aircraft will be used to expand the LGW shorthaul network

Thanks.   . I was hoping for them to be replaced by other B737's... 

Interesting regarding the A318..  
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:31 pm

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 33):
The additional aircraft will be used to expand the LGW shorthaul network

All of them? ... Even the A318s?
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:43 pm

I expect that new A32x will be delivered to LHR with LGW accepting "ex-LHR" frames.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:07 pm

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 27):
OK, how many A330's or any longhauls they ordered from Airbus in the same time? Except for the A380 which they delayed and they are in a whole new class all together?

And how does that all support your assertion of BA's supposed 777W "love affair"?
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:31 pm

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 24):
You don't have to. It is very well known within BA that the aircraft's performance has been more than satisfactory (read love affair).

More than satisfactory is a low standard for love.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:54 pm

Quoting 777STL (Reply 38):
And how does that all support your assertion of BA's supposed 777W "love affair"?

It doesn't it only goes to the previous reply that they had excercized only a few options. They are getting these options without even considering an Airbus product. I know there is more to it, but bottom line, from what they say, especially in the inner cicles, is that they are very happy with what they are getting out of it.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:27 pm

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 27):
OK, how many A330's or any longhauls they ordered from Airbus in the same time? Except for the A380 which they delayed and they are in a whole new class all together?

Got it. You're correct, fanboy.

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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:32 pm

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 40):
It doesn't it only goes to the previous reply that they had excercized only a few options. They are getting these options without even considering an Airbus product. I know there is more to it, but bottom line, from what they say, especially in the inner cicles, is that they are very happy with what they are getting out of it.

What airbus model would them consider? No A330 is that large with that range, the A346 is out of production and would be more of an oddball than a GE powered 777, and the A35X is 6 years away.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:17 pm

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 42):
No A330 is that large with that range,

So, you are admitting that Airbus has nothing to offer today that can compete with the 77W?
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:18 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 41):
Got it. You're correct, fanboy.

I admit, I am a Boeing fan, however, the A330 is my all time favorite plane. The jury is still out on the 787.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:44 pm

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 39):
More than satisfactory is a low standard for love.

Nitpick any which way you prefer. That does not change the level of British Airways' satisfaction with the aircraft.

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 30):
expected to announce in November or Decmber at the latest, that they have excercised options held on other aicraft types for delivery from mid 2013.

How possible or viable do you reckon it to be that some of these options are transferred from Iberia?

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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:47 pm

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 43):
So, you are admitting that Airbus has nothing to offer today that can compete with the 77W?

I wasn't aware that I ever made a claim to the contrary?
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:55 pm

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 46):
I wasn't aware that I ever made a claim to the contrary?

You did not. Others on this forum seem to consider the A330-300 as a competitor. Either way, both are great aircraft. The A340 died the moment the 77W came online, but I am excited to see the A350 and the 77X develop. Exciting times ahead. I have family that works for BA in fleet management (extended family second-ex-mother-in-law if there is such term) who says that they are extremely happy with the plane, particularly with its reliability and economics and also from the statements that BA management have said, although, always at an event that had something to do with Boeing.
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:40 am

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 45):
How possible or viable do you reckon it to be that some of these options are transferred from Iberia?

In May 2010 IB converted options for five 320s into firm orders. It was reported that these aircraft would then be sold to BA on delivery.

BA currently have their own outstanding order for just one 320. It is scheduled for delivery in January. Additionally BA have options for 30 single-aisle Airbus aircraft. It has been said that these 30 aircraft are to replace the 19 734s operated out of LGW and to provide additional short haul capacity there. It has also been said that they will include one or more 318s to expand the LCY long haul operation.

Why firm up the IB options and deliver the aircraft to BA rather than firm up some of the BA options? I assume this was to do with the delivery dates associated with the options.
 
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RE: BA Exercise Two 77W Options.

Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:30 am

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 47):
Others on this forum seem to consider the A330-300 as a competitor.

Really? As a competitor for the 777-300ER? Eh?

Well, why do you even waste time debating with such people? No-one with any half serious knowledge or understanding of these things would ever make such a claim.

That said, I wonder how many "others on this forum" genuinely hold such a view. Personally, I can't remember anyone making such a claim.

Sure you aren't imagining it?

And, for the record, there is no inconsistency between (1) accepting without question that the 777-300ER is a great money-making plane for airlines and that BA doubtless love it as much as anyone and (2) denying that exercising two options three years after the initial order amounts to BA taking "more and more" 777Ws because of their "love affair" with the type.

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