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Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:27 am

IB may drop its thrice weekly non-stop service between Madrid and Córdoba, Argentina in January. IB cites a number of reasons why the service might be dropped, including that the lack of premium demand and cargo on the route, as well as other factors.

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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:34 am

It seems they tried all they could but it is a surprise this route do not perform well enough.

AFAIK while operating as a tag from MAD-GIG, some Y and a very few J customers remain on board.
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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:30 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 1):
It seems they tried all they could but it is a surprise this route do not perform well enough.

Considering the length of the flight and the fuel and crew costs associated with the route, it's not surprising that the route may be suspended. Connections to/from COR are available via both SCL and LIM. LA will soon increase frequency and capacity on the SCL-COR route to 12x weekly (A-320). Next year, LP will increase frequency on the LIM-COR route to 9x weekly (A-319).
 
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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:49 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 2):
Considering the length of the flight and the fuel and crew costs associated with the route, it's not surprising that the route may be suspended

No doubt costs play a role and it seems IB is in desperate need of twin jets (A332 for example) for this type of mission. It could be the right plane for markets such as COR, FOR and REC. The A343 is just too expensive for the return given.
But Cordoba is not a small city, it is an industrial one with sizeable market, and considering the historic and language ties with Spain, i would expect more from MAD-COR.
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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:38 pm

I find it interesting that IB is studying the possibility of keeping the route open by tagging COR to ASU in a triangular pattern. The only way that would work is that ASU brought in much desired premium-business-fare paying passengers, but despites Paraguay's phenomenal economic growth in recent times I don't think the demand is there yet and nor is for cargo. Times are tough for IB as the airline expects to post a loss this year and the airline seems to be focused on minimizing risk and cutting capacity accross its network including its most popular and profitable routes.
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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:13 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 3):
it seems IB is in desperate need of twin jets (A332 for example) for this type of mission.

Would't a B787 be an even better fit for IB, a relatively small aircraft and also fuel efficient, made for long thin routes?
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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:45 am

It now appears that IBERIA will drop its thrice weekly non-stop service between Madrid and Córdoba on January 15th. Connections between COR and MAD are available with LAN via both SCL and LIM, AND also via EZE with AR.

Iberia suspende definitivamente el vuelo Córdoba-Madrid
 
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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:58 pm

Last MAD-COR flight on Jan 20, 2012
 
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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:36 am

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 5):
Would't a B787 be an even better fit for IB, a relatively small aircraft and also fuel efficient, made for long thin routes?

Could be, but the A330 makes more sense because of cost saving. Many of IB routes could be covered by the A333 for example.
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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:03 pm

It doesn't have to be that IB is losing money, it can simply be it is not making enough and can make more elsewhere.
IB is really in lack of long-haul aircraft - to open any new route, they first have to close an existing one. Furthermore, their route network has reached a stage where they want/need to start expanding into thinner markets, but lack the adequate aircraft (an A343 is not the best route opener). IB should have ordered A330's much much earlier, and is now suffering the consequences of their conservative fleet planning.

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 3):
No doubt costs play a role and it seems IB is in desperate need of twin jets (A332 for example) for this type of mission. It could be the right plane for markets such as COR, FOR and REC. The A343 is just too expensive for the return given.

  
 
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RE: Iberia May Discontinue MAD-COR

Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:27 pm

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 7):
Last MAD-COR flight on Jan 20, 2012

The last two flights into COR will operate via MVD. Meanwhile, IB has decided to increase frequency on the MAD-SCL route from daily to 9x weekly starting next January.

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